LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 With Hadden and Gilbert as our to starters. I know Skrine is etched to be nickel. I am not so keen on him since he has been on board. Gipson and Whitner at the safeties. I want someone to beat out Skrine this offseason. I do not want to yell at my TV because of him. between him and Weedon last year....... Thoughts on elimating Skrine and replace from the list below. 40 Adams, Royce DB 5-10 190 26 2 Purdue 37 Aubrey, Josh DB 5-10 207 23 2 Stephen F. Austin 24 Bademosi, Johnson DB 6-0 200 23 3 Stanford 43 Cook, Darwin DB 5-11 195 22 R West Virginia 26 Desir, Pierre DB 6-1 195 23 R Lindenwood 41 Heath, T.J. DB 6-0 190 26 2 Jacksonville State 29 McFadden, Leon DB 5-10 190 23 2 San Diego State 42 Nelson, Robert DB 5-9 175 24 R Arizona State 33 Poyer, Jordan DB 6-0 191 23 2 Oregon State 30 Slaughter, Jamoris DB 6-0 190 24 1 Notre Dame 35 Trufant, Isaiah DB 5-7 170 31 4 Eastern Washington 36 Williams , K'Waun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Skrine has gotten better every year and is reportedly looking good in camp this year. He is fast as hell and now has starter experience, but is perfectly suited for the slot. From what I saw of McFadden last year, he would have a ways to go to catch Skrine. Desir is the interesting prospect, but not sure where he ends up in the secondary. some have mentioned free safety for him. But I could see him playing inside too, because a lot of teams are going toward bigger slot receivers, and he could take away that advantage with his size. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Skrine has gotten better every year and is reportedly looking good in camp this year. He is fast as hell and now has starter experience, but is perfectly suited for the slot. From what I saw of McFadden last year, he would have a ways to go to catch Skrine. Desir is the interesting prospect, but not sure where he ends up in the secondary. some have mentioned free safety for him. But I could see him playing inside too, because a lot of teams are going toward bigger slot receivers, and he could take away that advantage with his size. Zombo This is going to be is 3rd season. Will he improve on game day? he blew to many big plays and go beeat in coverage quite a bit. To many penalties also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBrown Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Looking forward to the d this year. When the offense wasn't putrid last season they played damn good. The additions from the draft and fa should round us out to a very good d. Just need the offense to be semi productive so they're not on the field the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCDawg82 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Better be! They sacrificed the WR core for it! They will be called on to carry the team without legit targets for Manziel. RB's might look good, but if you can't streach the field it doesn't matter. Miles Austin HAS done big things, but he's also been hurt most of the time. It is an exciting DB unit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cLeVeLaNd_CrOwN_sNaTcHeR Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I like Skrine in the slot, he struggle covering bigger recievers on the edge at times. Never really saw him get beat deep alot unless there may have been a double move only get penalized for not playing the ball. He fast enough to run with the best just needs to turn his head sooner. Skrine did improve he made some key stops on drives that allowed the defense to get off the field at times. Unlike the previous year. I just dont see him as the #2 corner against teams with two good recievers playing outside. I would love to see how they work Desir in the rotation. He as potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Skrine was targeted by opposing coordinators and will be this year. He is small, not good at coverage and will be an easy target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Barksalot Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 With one of the best corners in the league on one side and a top 10 draft choice ( and top DB in this class IMO) on the other side. This should def be an outstanding group. I believe Skrine will be much, much improved after moving to the inside. He has great speed and covering the 3rd or sometimes 4th reciever on opposing teams will be a bit more in his league. He should be way more competitive against those guys than his previous 2 years. I personally think Desir is a freak and an absolute steal in the 4th round. He is gonna see the field alot as the 4 or maybe some at the 3. He doesnt possess the speed of Skrine but is worlds apart in physicality and coverage / ball skills. We should have one of the top corner crews in the NFL. Our safteys also are nothing to laugh at. Gipson came a long way last year and I for one am very comfortable with him out roaming the field, ball hawking for us, and he is good at it. Whitner........... well.................. its whitner, not great but just as good as Ward and that was not a weak spot by any means. Maybe could argue that Ward wasnt very good at coverage and IMO whitner is a drastic improvment in that regard. Ward to Whitner loses nothing in run support either. Man just sittin here talking about this pumps me!!!!! I think wait till next year is finally here... WAIT TILL THIS YEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 With one of the best corners in the league on one side and a top 10 draft choice ( and top DB in this class IMO) on the other side. This should def be an outstanding group. I believe Skrine will be much, much improved after moving to the inside. He has great speed and covering the 3rd or sometimes 4th reciever on opposing teams will be a bit more in his league. He should be way more competitive against those guys than his previous 2 years. I personally think Desir is a freak and an absolute steal in the 4th round. He is gonna see the field alot as the 4 or maybe some at the 3. He doesnt possess the speed of Skrine but is worlds apart in physicality and coverage / ball skills. We should have one of the top corner crews in the NFL. Our safteys also are nothing to laugh at. Gipson came a long way last year and I for one am very comfortable with him out roaming the field, ball hawking for us, and he is good at it. Whitner........... well.................. its whitner, not great but just as good as Ward and that was not a weak spot by any means. Maybe could argue that Ward wasnt very good at coverage and IMO whitner is a drastic improvment in that regard. Ward to Whitner loses nothing in run support either. Man just sittin here talking about this pumps me!!!!! I think wait till next year is finally here... WAIT TILL THIS YEAR I just have a bad taste in my mouth from Skrine. Might as well call him fast slippery Willey. Speed and being short doesn't help when recievers now are getting taller, bigger and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 With three top 10 picks back there, they sure as fuck better be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 With three top 10 picks back there, they sure as fuck better be. Hadden, Whitner and Gipson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hadden, Whitner and Gipson? Gilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Oh yeah I was think Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Oh yeah I was think Manziel. You know he should have been a top ten!!! probably can play DB like a HOFer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Better be! They sacrificed the WR core for it! yeah the second and third pick really fucked up our chances at getting a legit WR. lol. 3 outta six on D. right down the middle don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 yeah the second and third pick really fucked up our chances at getting a legit WR. lol. 3 outta six on D. right down the middle don't you think? Why do we need a WR we have Flash Smokey!!! https://s3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/XVgQdNJqFlMMlYuV1ilO.w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusfantasyexperts/nfl-gordon_inline_640_426.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCDawg82 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 yeah the second and third pick really fucked up our chances at getting a legit WR. lol. 3 outta six on D. right down the middle don't you think? I was speaking to passing on Sammy Watkins. And i didnt think about it at the time, but cleveland actually got less for this trade than they did for the Julio Jones trade. In my opinion, its easier to stop points than score them. But your right, they had MANY other opportunities to take receivers and didnt. But I did like the Manziel pick, and I liked the Bitiono pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 we've been needing to add another top flight corner for 4 years now. both farmer and petine played safety in college and farmer went on to play it in the nfl. it was no surprise to me that they made it their first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Barksalot Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I was speaking to passing on Sammy Watkins. And i didnt think about it at the time, but cleveland actually got less for this trade than they did for the Julio Jones trade. In my opinion, its easier to stop points than score them. But your right, they had MANY other opportunities to take receivers and didnt. But I did like the Manziel pick, and I liked the Bitiono pick. It cost Atlanta more because ( I could be mistaken but ) I think we were dropping back much further than # 9 when we traded with them. Therefor we were selling our pick at a higher cost then, than we took from Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 It cost Atlanta more because ( I could be mistaken but ) I think we were dropping back much further than # 9 when we traded with them. Therefor we were selling our pick at a higher cost then than we took from Buffalo. You're not mistaken, we traded back into the 20's with that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 "Our DB's could be solid unit." Certainly the apparent capability, depth and flexibility are greatly improved. Among our position units, on paper I think our DBs are only rivaled by our D-line collection. However, for now the D-line gets the nod for their on-field showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 After watching the background bio on Desir, I really hope this kid breaks at least into the nickelback package. Someone on the team with this kind of motivation can positively affect everyone on the team. Maybe even become that key ST player that every great team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 After watching the background bio on Desir, I really hope this kid breaks at least into the nickelback package. Someone on the team with this kind of motivation can positively affect everyone on the team. Maybe even become that key ST player that every great team needs. physically the kid is the prototypical FS. now whether he has the speed, the intuitiveness and the rest of the on field acumen to contribute at any position remains to be seen. i'm rooting for him like the rest of the rookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 In my opinion, its easier to stop points than score them. But your right, they had MANY other opportunities to take receivers and didnt. But I did like the Manziel pick, and I liked the Bitiono pick. I agree with that point, but our 3rd down & long defense has been horrible for several seasons, most notably last season. I was hoping for Watkins, but as time has passed by I think the Gilbert pick was the way to go. Our D should be vastly improved on the edges, and will no doubt help the pass rush. Now, if we can score points, look out AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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