boo fagley
-
Posts
3,254 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
4
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by boo fagley
-
-
Only 1 preseason game completed.
Watched Mahomes last night. He sucked and could not move the offense. Perhaps its nothing, but I believe he will be a bust. The Chiefs always draft the wrong QB and moved up in the wrong draft.
-
3 minutes ago, The Gipper said:
We used to have the Inventor's HOF, but I don't know the status of that any more. The building is still here in Akron, and is still somewhat affiliated, though now it professes to be some kind of School. There are also NIHOF offices in North Canton, but the induction ceremonies for new members has taken place in Washington DC at some venue near the US Patent Office. So, who knows the status of that.
Err, edit: It seems that the museum has now been moved to Virginia:
National Inventors Hall of Fame Museum
600 Dulany Street
Alexandria, VA 22314The Goodyear blimp too.
-
22 minutes ago, The Gipper said:
To answer the question: AA was founded in Akron, OH. The two most important locations, as depicted above, are the old Mayflower Hotel where Dr Bob and Bill W first were introduced and sat down together to discussion their addictions (which is still there, converted to a senior citizens dwelling), and the Gate Lodge), and the other is the Gate Lodge of Stan Hywet Hall, where they met with the daughter-in-law of the founder of the Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. to put together and organize the AA organization.
https://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2018/06/foudners_day_expected_to_draw.html
And no, I am not a member, nor do I need to be. (though, my dad needed it...but never got it). I just know my history
Ohio has everything.
Rock and Roll HOF, NFL HOF and the Alcohol HOF.
-
1
-
-
28 minutes ago, The Gipper said:
No. Though Barberton may have the highest percentage of it populace that needs their service!!
Buffalo NY too.
-
4 hours ago, Nero said:
I tried Jose Cuervo once. Best tequila I ever had.
The Resposada or Anejo.
-
3 hours ago, The Gipper said:
Must another thread devolve into an AA support meeting?
Trivia Question: Where was AA founded?
Hint:
Another hint:
Barberton Ohio
-
13 hours ago, hoorta said:
Well, he can. but he doesn't know the great stuff from crap.
Expected from a Steeler fan.
-
5 hours ago, hoorta said:
Well, he can. but he doesn't know the great stuff from crap.
After reading your post on booze, Id say you know of what you speak. Never tried Remy, but it sounds good.
Jameson is not the best, but its good value. Just like Jose Quervo 1800 tequila. Cant beat the price and quality.
-
4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:
Zaya? Don't get me started.😁
What a bottle of swill, Huh?
Ghoolie cant afford the top shelf stuff.
-
1
-
-
16 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:
So by this logic, Mayfield will be a bust too, since the Browns 1999 on have been a QB graveyard, right?
No, because the Browns hit a QB rich draft and were sitting in the cat bird seat.
The other years they still had to choose a QB too. Its like drinking Jameson or Zaya rum. You want Jameson because its the best, but if it aint around youll settle for Zaya and hold your nose.
-
13 hours ago, Pat Mahomo said:
........but all your really need to understand is that Andy Reid drafted him, had him on the roster a whole year, and then decided to trade the NFL's passer rating leader, who still had a year left at a somewhat reasonable 20 million, so he could make room to start Mahomes. .....you can read glowing reports from writers, other players, coaches, etc...but the thing that should really make you take notice is they moved on from a good QB under contract to start this kid. He's going to be freaking awesome.
Every Tom, Ghoolie and Harry looks like a star in practice. When it gets real they $hit the bed. Mahomes will be no different.
Reid drafting anybody means little. The great Eagles teams were built by GM Howie Roseman and not Andy Reid. Andy got his a$$ run out of town after the Eagles grew tired of his excuses. " I need to do a better job" - Andy Reid. The Eagles won the Lombardi because Andy was not around to screw it up.
-
Mahomes will be a Bust.
The Chiefs always choose the wrong QB. This time they moved up in the wrong draft. Mahomes supposedly has the big arm that Alex Smith never had. The game is about quick decisions and short passes because they lead to higher completion percentage.
-
1
-
-
21 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:
I'll still take a QB who can stand in the pocket, keep his eyes downfield while the pass rush is around him, process the play, make his reads, and consistently deliver an accurate, on-time pass over athletic one-read and run QBs all day long. The NFL has consistently caught up with the latter.
Its a passing league.
A RB can get beat to death, but lay off a WR and QB.. The NFL wants scoring. Fans like scoring. A soccer match is painful to watch with so little scoring some games.
-
1 hour ago, tiamat63 said:
Only, Lamar doesn't run a 4.3. He doesn't have the first step or lateral movement of Vick. Nobody has since and chances are you won't see that in our lifetime.
Also, Vicks success against NFL defenses from 2001 vs 2010 was rather up and down. The athletic premium put on the other side of the ball to stop or limit these runners has really been quite impressive over the last 10 years. Do we think of Vick as 'Vick' if he started playing 10 years later vs 2000? Me thinks not so much.
The way to defend these types is keep them in the pocket and force them to throw.
Make them play patient which they hate because they are used to bang - bang plays and making things happen out of no play.
-
1 hour ago, Tour2ma said:
Correct... including the 2015 draft class was a mistake. It resulted in an undercount for Jackson.
The new total for Jackson is 36 from the 2017 and 2016 classes plus 29 from 2018 for a total of 65 ACC defenders drafted that Jackson faced.
https://www.ajc.com/sports/acc-players-selected-2018-nfl-draft/v5ekOCh91i82Fr5kzWMtjL/
In fairness to Allen, I need to redo his earlier total of 11. Now it's 7 from 2016 and 2017 plus 2 from 2018 for a new total of 9. Oops...
https://www.mwcconnection.com/2018/4/30/17300930/2018-draft-post-draft-tracker
As for when and where the QBs faced the listed players... all I can say is that I addressed your original question. If you don't like the answer and want to change it now, that's your prerogative. By definition the players I counted signed pro contracts and thus were "pros Jackson played against at Louisville."
28 players added from the 2018 draft. Proehl is a WR.
7TH - 4
6TH - 3
5TH - 4
4TH - 4
3RD - 6
2ND - 2
1ST - 5
The Term "Pros" is an NFL player who makes an impact for his team on the defensive side of the ball. IE: Starter like Jalen Ramsey, Kevin Johnson. Chubb should be one. Or a situational player or specialist like pass rusher or NT. Approximately 40% of the players drafted turn out to be of no use. Practice squad, special teams, bottom of depth chart guys that are drafted are not included with little to no chance of ever facing Jackson.
Troubling passing numbers here for Jackson
Vs SEC 48.5% ouch.
Vs ACC 57% With all those ACC players drafted that you have provided us this is not good news.
VS MAC 82%. Tore up Kent State
When Jackson struggled with pass vs the SEC and ACC he was a beast running.
Vs ACC 6.2 YAC.
Vs SEC 7.0 YAC
There should be not much of an issue rushing for Jackson should the pass game evaporate. 4 - 5 YAC all day long.
-
4 hours ago, Tour2ma said:
Jackson faced 57 players who were drafted by the NFL.... plus UDFAs. Does look like 8 of the 57 were Louisville players, so he only faced them in practice.
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS Int Sk College/Univ 1 2017 2 51 DeMarcus Walker DE 22 DEN 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 10 0 1.0 Florida St. College Stats 2 2017 2 61 Josh Jones S 22 GNB 2017 2017 0 0 0 3 16 7 1 2.0 North Carolina St. College Stats 3 2017 3 91 John Johnson S 21 LAR 2017 2017 0 0 1 5 16 11 1 Boston Col. College Stats 4 2017 3 97 Cordrea Tankersley CB 23 MIA 2017 2017 0 0 1 3 11 11 Clemson College Stats 5 2017 3 102 Nazair Jones DT 22 SEA 2017 2017 0 0 0 2 11 2 1 2.0 North Carolina College Stats 6 2017 4 113 Rayshawn Jenkins S 23 LAC 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 15 0 Miami (FL) College Stats 7 2017 4 142 Carlos Watkins DT 23 HOU 2017 2017 0 0 0 3 12 6 Clemson College Stats 8 2017 5 152 Corn Elder CB 22 CAR 0 0 0 Miami (FL) College Stats 9 2017 5 163 Matt Milano LB 23 BUF 2017 2017 0 0 0 4 16 5 1 Boston Col. College Stats 10 2017 5 168 Marquel Lee LB 21 OAK 2017 2017 0 0 0 3 13 6 Wake Forest College Stats 11 2017 6 186 Chuck Clark DB 22 BAL 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 15 0 Virginia Tech College Stats 12 2017 6 196 Al-Quadin Muhammad DE 22 NOR 2017 2017 0 0 0 0 4 0 Miami (FL) College Stats 13 2017 6 216 Marquez White CB 22 DAL 0 0 0 Florida St. College Stats 14 2017 7 229 Adrian Colbert DB 23 SFO 2017 2017 0 0 0 2 14 6 Miami (FL) College Stats 15 2017 7 230 Josh Harvey-Clemons S 23 WAS 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 10 0 0.5 Louisville College Stats 16 2017 7 234 Ejuan Price DE 24 LAR 2017 2017 0 0 0 0 1 0 Pittsburgh College Stats 17 2017 7 245 Jack Tocho CB 21 MIN 0 0 0 North Carolina St. College Stats 18 2016 1 5 Jalen Ramsey CB 21 JAX 2016 2017 1 1 2 22 32 32 6 Florida St. College Stats 19 2016 1 12 Sheldon Rankins DT 22 NOR 2016 2017 0 0 1 8 25 16 1 6.0 Louisville College Stats 20 2016 1 19 Shaq Lawson DE 22 BUF 2016 2017 0 0 1 5 21 11 6.0 Clemson College Stats 21 2016 1 25 Artie Burns CB 21 PIT 2016 2017 0 0 1 11 32 25 4 Miami (FL) College Stats 22 2016 2 33 Kevin Dodd DE 24 TEN 2016 2017 0 0 0 2 18 1 1.0 Clemson College Stats 23 2016 2 54 Mackensie Alexander CB 22 MIN 2016 2017 0 0 0 2 27 0 1 Clemson College Stats 24 2016 2 57 T.J. Green FS 21 IND 2016 2017 0 0 0 4 31 11 Clemson College Stats 25 2016 2 63 Adam Gotsis DT 23 DEN 2016 2017 0 0 1 8 32 13 2.0 Georgia Tech College Stats 26 2016 3 84 Kendall Fuller CB 21 WAS 2016 2017 0 0 0 6 29 12 4 Virginia Tech College Stats 27 2016 3 98 Justin Simmons FS 22 DEN 2016 2017 0 0 1 7 26 16 4 2.0 Boston Col. College Stats 28 2016 4 109 B.J. Goodson OLB 23 NYG 2016 2017 0 0 0 4 22 7 Clemson College Stats 29 2016 4 118 Juston Burris CB 23 NYJ 2016 2017 0 0 0 3 30 2 2 North Carolina St. College Stats 30 2016 4 124 Deon Bush S 23 CHI 2016 2017 0 0 0 3 24 6 Miami (FL) College Stats Rk Year Rnd Pick Player Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS Int Sk College/Univ College_link 31 2016 5 166 D.J. Reader NT 22 HOU 2016 2017 0 0 1 10 30 21 2.0 Clemson College Stats 32 2016 6 178 D.J. White CB 22 KAN 2016 2017 0 0 0 1 13 0 1 Georgia Tech College Stats 33 2016 6 203 Dadi Nicolas DE 23 KAN 2016 2016 0 0 0 1 11 0 Virginia Tech College Stats 34 2016 6 209 Maurice Canady CB 22 BAL 2016 2017 0 0 0 1 12 1 Virginia College Stats 35 2016 7 232 Steven Daniels ILB 23 WAS 0 0 0 Boston Col. College Stats 36 2016 7 244 Jayron Kearse S 22 MIN 2016 2017 0 0 0 2 31 1 Clemson College Stats 37 2015 1 8 Vic Beasley OLB 23 ATL 2015 2017 1 1 3 22 46 36 1 24.5 Clemson College Stats 38 2015 1 16 Kevin Johnson CB 23 HOU 2015 2017 0 0 0 9 34 17 1 Wake Forest College Stats 39 2015 1 31 Stephone Anthony ILB 23 NOR 2015 2017 0 0 1 9 34 19 1 1.0 Clemson College Stats 40 2015 2 35 Mario Edwards DT 21 OAK 2015 2017 0 0 2 11 30 24 5.5 Florida St. College Stats 41 2015 2 39 Eddie Goldman DT 21 CHI 2015 2017 0 0 2 16 36 32 8.5 Florida St. College Stats 42 2015 2 48 Denzel Perryman ILB 22 SDG 2015 2017 0 0 2 12 33 26 1 4.0 Miami (FL) College Stats 43 2015 2 50 Ronald Darby CB 21 BUF 2015 2017 0 0 2 13 37 36 5 Florida St. College Stats 44 2015 3 78 P.J. Williams CB 22 NOR 2016 2017 0 0 0 4 18 8 2 Florida St. College Stats 45 2015 3 79 Eli Harold OLB 21 SFO 2015 2017 0 0 2 12 48 25 5.0 Virginia College Stats 46 2015 3 82 Lorenzo Mauldin OLB 22 NYJ 2015 2016 0 0 0 4 26 4 1 6.5 Louisville College Stats 47 2015 4 104 James Sample SS 23 JAX 2015 2015 0 0 0 1 4 2 Louisville College Stats 48 2015 5 137 Grady Jarrett NT 22 ATL 2015 2017 0 0 2 16 47 32 8.0 Clemson College Stats 49 2015 6 177 Deiontrez Mount OLB 22 TEN 2015 2017 0 0 0 1 12 0 1 Louisville 50 2015 6 179 Max Valles OLB 21 OAK 0 0 0 Virginia College Stats 51 2015 6 181 Kyshoen Jarrett SS 22 WAS 2015 2015 0 0 0 2 16 6 Virginia Tech College Stats 52 2015 6 188 Tony Steward OLB 22 BUF 2015 2015 0 0 0 1 7 0 Clemson 53 2015 6 189 Charles Gaines CB 22 CLE 2015 2015 0 0 0 1 6 4 Louisville College Stats 54 2015 6 193 B.J. Dubose DE 23 MIN 0 0 0 Louisville College Stats 55 2015 6 212 Anthony Chickillo DE 22 PIT 2015 2017 0 0 0 7 38 9 5.5 Miami (FL) College Stats 56 2015 7 237 Brian Mihalik DE 23 PHI 2017 2017 0 0 0 2 15 2 Boston Col. College Stats 57 2015 7 239 Gerod Holliman FS 21 PIT 0 0 0 Louisville College Stats The 20 drafted players in 2015 never faced Jackson.
Will Gardner and Reggie Bonnafon were the Louie QBs in 2014. Jackson wasnt on the roster http://gocards.com/roster.aspx?roster=49 and was the QB in 2015, 2016 and 2017. Declared as a Junior.
Shame too, because players like Vic Beasley are what Im most interested about.
Jackson dominated in the NCAA, but against who? Bench warmers, special teams people and practice squad bodies actually hurt his cause.
-
8 hours ago, Tour2ma said:
Jackson faced 57 players who were drafted by the NFL.... plus UDFAs. Does look like 8 of the 57 were Louisville players, so he only faced them in practice.
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS Int Sk College/Univ 1 2017 2 51 DeMarcus Walker DE 22 DEN 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 10 0 1.0 Florida St. College Stats 2 2017 2 61 Josh Jones S 22 GNB 2017 2017 0 0 0 3 16 7 1 2.0 North Carolina St. College Stats 3 2017 3 91 John Johnson S 21 LAR 2017 2017 0 0 1 5 16 11 1 Boston Col. College Stats 4 2017 3 97 Cordrea Tankersley CB 23 MIA 2017 2017 0 0 1 3 11 11 Clemson College Stats 5 2017 3 102 Nazair Jones DT 22 SEA 2017 2017 0 0 0 2 11 2 1 2.0 North Carolina College Stats 6 2017 4 113 Rayshawn Jenkins S 23 LAC 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 15 0 Miami (FL) College Stats 7 2017 4 142 Carlos Watkins DT 23 HOU 2017 2017 0 0 0 3 12 6 Clemson College Stats 8 2017 5 152 Corn Elder CB 22 CAR 0 0 0 Miami (FL) College Stats 9 2017 5 163 Matt Milano LB 23 BUF 2017 2017 0 0 0 4 16 5 1 Boston Col. College Stats 10 2017 5 168 Marquel Lee LB 21 OAK 2017 2017 0 0 0 3 13 6 Wake Forest College Stats 11 2017 6 186 Chuck Clark DB 22 BAL 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 15 0 Virginia Tech College Stats 12 2017 6 196 Al-Quadin Muhammad DE 22 NOR 2017 2017 0 0 0 0 4 0 Miami (FL) College Stats 13 2017 6 216 Marquez White CB 22 DAL 0 0 0 Florida St. College Stats 14 2017 7 229 Adrian Colbert DB 23 SFO 2017 2017 0 0 0 2 14 6 Miami (FL) College Stats 15 2017 7 230 Josh Harvey-Clemons S 23 WAS 2017 2017 0 0 0 1 10 0 0.5 Louisville College Stats 16 2017 7 234 Ejuan Price DE 24 LAR 2017 2017 0 0 0 0 1 0 Pittsburgh College Stats 17 2017 7 245 Jack Tocho CB 21 MIN 0 0 0 North Carolina St. College Stats 18 2016 1 5 Jalen Ramsey CB 21 JAX 2016 2017 1 1 2 22 32 32 6 Florida St. College Stats 19 2016 1 12 Sheldon Rankins DT 22 NOR 2016 2017 0 0 1 8 25 16 1 6.0 Louisville College Stats 20 2016 1 19 Shaq Lawson DE 22 BUF 2016 2017 0 0 1 5 21 11 6.0 Clemson College Stats 21 2016 1 25 Artie Burns CB 21 PIT 2016 2017 0 0 1 11 32 25 4 Miami (FL) College Stats 22 2016 2 33 Kevin Dodd DE 24 TEN 2016 2017 0 0 0 2 18 1 1.0 Clemson College Stats 23 2016 2 54 Mackensie Alexander CB 22 MIN 2016 2017 0 0 0 2 27 0 1 Clemson College Stats 24 2016 2 57 T.J. Green FS 21 IND 2016 2017 0 0 0 4 31 11 Clemson College Stats 25 2016 2 63 Adam Gotsis DT 23 DEN 2016 2017 0 0 1 8 32 13 2.0 Georgia Tech College Stats 26 2016 3 84 Kendall Fuller CB 21 WAS 2016 2017 0 0 0 6 29 12 4 Virginia Tech College Stats 27 2016 3 98 Justin Simmons FS 22 DEN 2016 2017 0 0 1 7 26 16 4 2.0 Boston Col. College Stats 28 2016 4 109 B.J. Goodson OLB 23 NYG 2016 2017 0 0 0 4 22 7 Clemson College Stats 29 2016 4 118 Juston Burris CB 23 NYJ 2016 2017 0 0 0 3 30 2 2 North Carolina St. College Stats 30 2016 4 124 Deon Bush S 23 CHI 2016 2017 0 0 0 3 24 6 Miami (FL) College Stats Rk Year Rnd Pick Player Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS Int Sk College/Univ College_link 31 2016 5 166 D.J. Reader NT 22 HOU 2016 2017 0 0 1 10 30 21 2.0 Clemson College Stats 32 2016 6 178 D.J. White CB 22 KAN 2016 2017 0 0 0 1 13 0 1 Georgia Tech College Stats 33 2016 6 203 Dadi Nicolas DE 23 KAN 2016 2016 0 0 0 1 11 0 Virginia Tech College Stats 34 2016 6 209 Maurice Canady CB 22 BAL 2016 2017 0 0 0 1 12 1 Virginia College Stats 35 2016 7 232 Steven Daniels ILB 23 WAS 0 0 0 Boston Col. College Stats 36 2016 7 244 Jayron Kearse S 22 MIN 2016 2017 0 0 0 2 31 1 Clemson College Stats 37 2015 1 8 Vic Beasley OLB 23 ATL 2015 2017 1 1 3 22 46 36 1 24.5 Clemson College Stats 38 2015 1 16 Kevin Johnson CB 23 HOU 2015 2017 0 0 0 9 34 17 1 Wake Forest College Stats 39 2015 1 31 Stephone Anthony ILB 23 NOR 2015 2017 0 0 1 9 34 19 1 1.0 Clemson College Stats 40 2015 2 35 Mario Edwards DT 21 OAK 2015 2017 0 0 2 11 30 24 5.5 Florida St. College Stats 41 2015 2 39 Eddie Goldman DT 21 CHI 2015 2017 0 0 2 16 36 32 8.5 Florida St. College Stats 42 2015 2 48 Denzel Perryman ILB 22 SDG 2015 2017 0 0 2 12 33 26 1 4.0 Miami (FL) College Stats 43 2015 2 50 Ronald Darby CB 21 BUF 2015 2017 0 0 2 13 37 36 5 Florida St. College Stats 44 2015 3 78 P.J. Williams CB 22 NOR 2016 2017 0 0 0 4 18 8 2 Florida St. College Stats 45 2015 3 79 Eli Harold OLB 21 SFO 2015 2017 0 0 2 12 48 25 5.0 Virginia College Stats 46 2015 3 82 Lorenzo Mauldin OLB 22 NYJ 2015 2016 0 0 0 4 26 4 1 6.5 Louisville College Stats 47 2015 4 104 James Sample SS 23 JAX 2015 2015 0 0 0 1 4 2 Louisville College Stats 48 2015 5 137 Grady Jarrett NT 22 ATL 2015 2017 0 0 2 16 47 32 8.0 Clemson College Stats 49 2015 6 177 Deiontrez Mount OLB 22 TEN 2015 2017 0 0 0 1 12 0 1 Louisville 50 2015 6 179 Max Valles OLB 21 OAK 0 0 0 Virginia College Stats 51 2015 6 181 Kyshoen Jarrett SS 22 WAS 2015 2015 0 0 0 2 16 6 Virginia Tech College Stats 52 2015 6 188 Tony Steward OLB 22 BUF 2015 2015 0 0 0 1 7 0 Clemson 53 2015 6 189 Charles Gaines CB 22 CLE 2015 2015 0 0 0 1 6 4 Louisville College Stats 54 2015 6 193 B.J. Dubose DE 23 MIN 0 0 0 Louisville College Stats 55 2015 6 212 Anthony Chickillo DE 22 PIT 2015 2017 0 0 0 7 38 9 5.5 Miami (FL) College Stats 56 2015 7 237 Brian Mihalik DE 23 PHI 2017 2017 0 0 0 2 15 2 Boston Col. College Stats 57 2015 7 239 Gerod Holliman FS 21 PIT 0 0 0 Louisville College Stats Lots of good info.
A cursory glance reveals quite a few draft picks have never started an NFL game. Some are practice sqyad guys who Jackson will never face in the pros.
-
1 hour ago, SD_Tom said:
So 180 lb WR are quite common.... But a 215 lb athletic specimen at qb will break in half at first contact.
I don't get the reasoning
RBs take a beating in the NFL and their careers are short lived. A WR is afforded a little protection within the rules.
My money is on this mobile QB experiment not working. Ghoolie is right, the days of Tarkenton are over. The successful teams stay in the pocket because its a passing league. The Browns appear to be joining the party with Mayfield. Throwing the ball away on 3rd and punting can be the smartest move to make sometimes.
-
50 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:
57 plus UDFAs...
Allen? 11 plus UDFAs...
Jackson 2017
Miss State - 0
Kentucky - 0
Kent State - 0
Clemson - 1
3rd LB
Boston Coll - 3
2nd DE
3rd DB
6th DB
Purdue - 1
5th LB
NC State - 4
1st DE
3rd DT
3rd DT
4th DT
NC - 2
2nd DB
7th LB
FL State - 3
1st DB
3rd DT
4th DE
Syracuse - 1
7th LB
Wake Forest - 2
2nd DB
6th DE
Virginia - 2
5th LB
5th LB
19 TOTAL DRAFTED
1st x 2
2nd x 3
3rd x 5
4th x 2
5th x 3
6th x 2
7th x 2
In reality about 5 - 10 NFL caliber players assuming the 1st round and 2nd round guys pan out and some of the other guys will be depth.
-
2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:
There are not all that many with 4.3 speed and and quick twitch change of direction. Just go back and watch the old Vick plays and it's clear you CAN run against NFL speed successfully. It's his arm and ability to learn the intricacies of a playbook and reading defenses properly that are the real crux of his future as an NFL QB.
-
1 minute ago, SD_Tom said:
He's still gonna be one of the fastest guys on the entire field in the NFL. He's faster than most WR and CB. I don't think he's missed any games with injuries thus far has he?
Fast guys get tackled all the time in the NFL.
-
11 hours ago, SD_Tom said:
how many thousands of extra yards per season than Allen just in passing yards alone?
Defenses had to respect Jackson was a running threat, no?
How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie? Out of thousands of players about 200 players are drafted from all the NCAA football programs. Everybody is a pro at the NFL level. Strong, fast and smart. Jackson will get crushed in the NFL if he runs and I dont see him surviving taking away his run game.
-
1 minute ago, The Gipper said:
Lamar is NOT the Jackson that I would be afraid of....but....if I hear this, I'm worried:
Real burgers are great.
I had one tonight.
-
17 minutes ago, SD_Tom said:
He had over 3500 yds passing 2 seasons in a row.
He can throw fine
OH yeah?
Over 1500 rushing yards in consecutive seasons. At least 18 rushing TDs in each season. Jackson averaged 20 carries per game x 13 games in 2016. Averaged 18 carries per game x 13 games in 2017. You think he will suddenly stop running? The odds are not in your favor that he will.
56% completion rate in 2016. Same as Josh Allen. Ask all the Allen haters here why this number sucks.
59% completion rate in 2017. Headed to a league where it all gets real.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lamar-jackson-1.html
-
1
-
Mayfield or Mahomes
in THE BROWNS BOARD
Posted
Len Dawson back in the 70s.
The rest have been train wrecks.