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Yeah dude. How has analytics worked upto this point? What is the gameplan? Haslam trying to turn the team into 0-16 again and then move us to London?

Goal line, we need to feed him. Stefanski gets too complex and him overcomplicating things rarely works out.

Yeah, because goal line red zone we should pass, or rush with hunt most of the time. Stefanski has been mediocre at best.

Yeah, stefanski has misused Chubb all year.

He can run, that’s about it. But he really doesn’t have much to play for. Dude is already gonna make bank. I’m afraid with what they said about clowney, coaches might play favorites and give Garrett the Lebron treatment most of the time. Regardless, team looks unmotivated.

Tomlin tried to trip a player and he’s a classless idiot. Just because he won some games it shouldn’t excuse him being a weasel. The commentators blow him every week and it’s pathetic frankly.

Don’t really see the need to talk about Baker anymore, but he wasn’t as bad as some of you are saying. He had heart, and he put up with so many new schemes and was led by people like Freddie Kitchens, and played through a lot of injuries. I thought the Watson move was awful. Idk why we’re being run by Haslam and an analytics guy. Also, what kind of role model has more than 20 women accuse them of foul play during massages? What kind of a role model is that for our kids? Watson is a one trick pony and his days are over.

Watson trade a genius move by Haslam. What a smart owner.

He had the heart, passion, and work ethic to win us a superbowl. I'd take a Trent Dilfer everyone loves over a premadonna who's in it for himself.

Baker had so much heart. He was a dude you loved to root for. He made mistakes, but my god, he played his heart out and gave it his all. He had that fire and that passion. When Haslam is the leader, and he constantly second guesses his decisions, it creates uncertainty for everyone in the organization. Trading Baker for nothing will be a regret. And as for Watson, it's hard to defend him. How can you build a community around someone who gets 60 massage girls and has them sign NDA's. Is that a role model for our children in Cleveland? A person the city can get behind and love? I feel like Haslam might be the worst owner ever. Watson could potentially be suspended all season. This just ends up being a $200 million gamble to get an athletic premadonna. He wasn't our problem, but now he is. And way to go signing Josh Rosen. If Watson doesn't work out, Baker was still 10x the QB Rosen is.

Are any Browns Backers or forum fellas going to the game tomorrow? I'm up from California and taking my girl to her first game and first tailgate ever. Would love to link up and drink some beers pre-game

We need to target linebackers and safeties, and add more depth to the D-line and O-line.

lol at the announcers, "I don't like to call pass interference when I see that, let the boys fight"

Well said, Z As far as people who were saying what I thought about Baker. I still think he's our guy. For those that haven't had rib injuries (I broke mine boxing last May) they hurt like an absolute bitch. It hurts to breathe.... What I don't get is how people are willing to bail on him after a few mediocre games. As long as we're winning, that's what I care about. When Aaron Rodgers or Big Ben have bad games (even when they're healthy), everyone moves on. Let Baker play. And lastly, it's important for Baker to play his game and find the open receivers. OBJ might've made him force the ball to him in the past. Now he's back to playing his game, and finding TE's and Higgins like he did in the past. I predict the Browns only getting better, but Gruden and the Raiders are no joke.

Sandy better step up. I just see him looked confused after he gets burned literally every game.

Gruden is underrated. Dude is smart. Should be a close game but a good game. Donovan Peoples-Jones TD coming.

We're going to stomp the Bengals.

Our team literally is at pace to make the playoffs, and you guys are trying to write off Baker when his ribs are messed up, we're missing lineman, and he plays one off game against a 4-0 team.... Look at the entire season, not just one game. We have one of the most deadly rushing attacks, so his stats won't be 5 TDs 500 yards every week. Rodgers and other QB's have off games, and most of you are forgetting, it's only his third season. Peyton Manning and Brett Favre weren't the killing gunslingers until later on. Let the kid get his chance this year, I still believe in him.

Not having him is telling. We need more of a veteran presence on D. And about the others, it's one game, look at the overall picture. OBJ, Baker, all of them, let them have a chance to prove they can bounce back. And the whole kicker deal is ridiculous.

I think it's important to recognize that certain people like to divide us as humans. We all love football, that's why we're here. It's an escape from all the bullshit that happens in life. All of the tragedy, sadness, and suffering in the world. We're all humans, no matter what backgrounds we come from, and we all breathe the same and bleed the same. Instead of focusing on what makes us different, we should focus on what brings us together.

Baker is his own man. To me this isn't even news, it's something Mary Kay would shout out. Whether people are republican or democratic, we all like football. I could care less if players decide to kneel for the anthem or not. Now winning, that's something I consider important. And this is a new era, without Freddie Kitchens or the Famous Sandwich actor, Hue Jackson.

Watched it all yesterday. My old boss' office was next to big cat rescues office in Tampa when I worked there two years. Can confirm I saw Carol there once a week at least during that time and she was always friendly and said hi when I ran into her. Crazy to think such a crazy story was unfolding right next door to me.

We should realistically win at least 7 games. If we can't win more than five games, then Jimmy needs to figure out who reports to who and figure out the whole GM thing. Because his approach to the HC and GM reporting separately to him is toxic I believe, and it's never worked. I'm hoping Kevin is a great coach and we do well. Hopefully Baker got over his sophomore slump and he's ready to hit now.

Happy birthday Zombo, cheers brotha!

I wanted Nickel-robey-coleman and Pierre Desir