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tiamat63

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  1. You're not wrong, but the best athlete being your QB in high school has been a thing since I was a kid. It's only the last 20 years (well, I was still a kid then too) that its sort of 'trickled up'... in a manner of speak. Putting greater emphasis on athletic ability at the QB position.
  2. And while you're certainly right, there's a reason that injury is so well known. Next to Alex Smith, that sort of thing just doesn't happen. I think the whole "safer scrambling vs in the pocket" is a bit overblown. The biggest issue between elite passers and pocket presence vs not is the ability to more efficiently move the ball in the air and avoid shots they had no business taking in the first place. Indy with their young QB in AR15 is a prime example. That kid lead himself into contact he had no business being involved in, and wouldn't have been had he been ready to be starting NFL QB. But he wasn't, the Colts overdrafted him then rushed his play in risk of long term development and long term health.
  3. Flacco is more statue-esque, yes. But don't let a couple designed runs and some work when play structure breaks down trick you into believing that either Flacco or Watson aren't drop back passers who work their eyes and arms first. Passers with mobility have been across the NFL for a long time. Steve Young, McNair, Mcnabb, Ben, Luck, Burrow, Mahomes, etc etc. It isn't just that they are safer, you're limiting potential non-contact injuries. People forget that RG3 knees were aggravated by his lateral cutting ability as much as they were some of the shots they took. In fairness to Orion, your examples above don't work because two of them played behind the worst Olines in the NFL the last 25 years.
  4. Explains that massive comeback against Houston.
  5. Not to bogard the thread, obviously I'm proud of the work you guys are putting in here. Good discussion and sharing of mutual knowledge and passion. It's an extra busy time for me, which sucks because you boys know this is my element. That said, looking at setting up a community film review. Straight forward, I host, you join, I share my screen(s) and we eval a particular player. I'm looking at LB names and this Jaylon Ford kid from Texas has been mentioned several times. We'll take a clean look, find a couple game cutups and breakdown plays. How does that work for you guys? Friday night - probably 6:45p-ish?
  6. He seems a decent kid, despite the corny ass goalpost "meditation" and he was the QB on a national championship squad. So that will also get you looks. It isn't so much his throws, as it was his decision making. 50/50. And the UM coaching staff was very intent on taking the ball out of his hands at times. On one side, I understand and JJ did what was asked of him. On the other side, there were quite a lot of times the offense failed to function when it ran through the QB. Not so much what I *am* seeing, as what I *am not* seeing. The problem is overvaluing the prospect. JJ is no better a prospect than Will Levis and he fell out of the first round entirely. I often wonder how much of these stories are cooked up by GMs and front offices that "lesser" GMs eat up and end with making a reality out of said hype.
  7. The nice thing about watching Colson, which I still need to get back to Dutch on, is that there's all-22 available from a couple UM games this season. So out of curiosity I'm wondering why the media hype for JJ McCarthy because, uhh, the first round abilities just aren't self evident.
  8. Watching Beebe from KState. His footwork is like going against your old man playing basketball. Nothing quick or fancy, but not a lot of wasted motion so very 'fluid'. He's a bit top heavy, but he gets a great punch in his short sets. Had a great trap on Sweat to start things off, and walled the big man really well. Does a good job not tipping his pulls and gets lateral then down the line to his target reasonably well and in tight movements. Doesn't arrive with the worst of intentions, but when he's singled up in straight drop pass pro, where he shines is his hand work and upper body strength. Wonder if home boy has spent time at tackle? Because his patient footwork and pass pro strike really scream like he's been coached there. Either way, I like what I see so far and I've only gotten through his full game against Texas and their Dline.
  9. I really don't have a problem with you, Kvo. That said, can't help but notice ALL you do when you chime in is whine.
  10. I'll maintain, the money doesn't concern me as much as the draft capital given up. So long as we aren't completely mortgaging the future, the dollars and sense don't worry me that much.
  11. Likely this. And they're a pretty solid group.
  12. Gone back to watch four full games (so far) of JJ so far in Denver's offense. Actually more pleasantly surprised than what I was expecting. He functions primarily as their Z (off ball) receiver in the Donkey's system. The pre-snap motion man so many offenses design a lot of their chain movers around. There were a couple times I could see frustration setting in, and a couple of those comments from Steve Smith hit home. Other times? I see a capable receiver who does well at his role and, in an offense that wasn't for volume passing, had more than a couple opportunities every game to contribute further if only Wilson could have more reliably found him and delivered. Including a gimmie TD catch and another for YAC that would have likely been 6 points. That's just in the quarter of a season I've seen so far. I'll have more on that later. I see the potential, but I also see the downside.
  13. Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought. All the more reason I believe this draft will be heavy in the trenches.
  14. I think you're setting your sights a bit low. Just watching snaps from Carolina and Chicago last year, DFs screen game work looks so similar to how Chubb catches the ball from the backfield. Dude would be great for 10-12 carries a game beyond just obviously down to move chains.
  15. Now THIS is an underrated signing I also like, tossed in with bringing in a better body suited to playing more upback. Liked Foreman at Texas, dude doesn't have much mileage, he's a bigger RB and he had almost 1k behind a very questionable Carolina Oline a couple years ago. I could see him as the #2 before training camp is over.
  16. The Brownies would have been better served, from a talent development standpoint, in trading low draft capital for Fields and sitting him behind Watson. This is both a smart move in terms of keeping roster churning, but also any potential long term contingency plan. That's where Flugs is right. Every Buckeye and their mother, shouting about Watson getting off the field the moment he throws a single interception, while the cheers rain down for Fields, is another reality you are absolutely correct about as well. One, I'd reckon, is the biggest reason a trade for Justin wasn't explored further by the front office.
  17. Two full games later in the season - vs LSU then Ole Miss. Just more of the same. The increase in sacks was interesting. So where A&M switched up their deployment was alternating who the 4th man was in pressure in there 3 man, odd front. If this kid is the 2nd LB off the board, it's a pretty weak draft class.
  18. You're welcomed to like Baker. I like Baker and wish him no ill will. The last home game of his rookie season, I was there, freezing my ass off with the old man, both of us chanting "Ba-ker" with 50k other people. I appreciate his contributions to this team. Nobody is pissed off at anyone for liking him. It's the constant reminders, in multiple ways, that he's gone and that the Browns have somehow lost a savior. Even more so to the point you have "fans" actively hoping we lose or revel in losses just to 'prove a point'. THAT, is both whiny and intolerable. I can one-up your scale. Watson's 2020 season was fantastic and the result of him building off a promising 2018 and a stronger 2019. But I've said before, It is, now not or then, a trade I would have made. The money only concerns me from a salary cap perspective. The largest issue(s), and the one that would have held me back were I Jimmy Haslam, was the draft capital surrendered. It was just too steep. Then the firm 'no' from Watson's camp to begin with was the cherry on top. I get 'why' they did it. You haven't drafted and developed an elite QB in 25 years. So you took the biggest gamble trying to secure one who showed that level of promise. The downside? It's a gamble done by a snake bitten franchise. Which means it's an all or nothing investment, one that usually ties the career of it to the GM that pulled the trigger. The only saving grace for Berry is that this team has been a breath away from a wild card berth and made another just this past season. Remains to be seen if that's enough success to maintain the goodwill towards his personnel moves, should Watson have a down year and the team move on.
  19. The metrics and numbers support what Baker has put on film, and the film supports the numbers. I've done both and shown that work on this board. The nice part about other things being so subjective, is that football is results driven in a much more clear manner.
  20. DTR, yes. He can sit on the practice squad, no harm, no foul. I also agree he did make positive strides. Then again, when the first outing is so disastrous, the only way to go is up. It will depend on how many turnovers Winston and Huntley have in camp. If either cleans it up, that's what it'll come down to getting that 2nd spot.
  21. headline is intentionally misleading... The full quote. "Having the opportunity to work with Deshaun (Watson) and help him be the best he can possibly be, is my main mission," he said via Anderson. "Now, if Deshaun has to heal up for whatever reason, and I have to take a few games off of him, I’m going to be ready to do that." Winston understands not only why he will be in Cleveland, but where he is in the pecking order and his primary responsibility. Like any competitor, he *wants* to be the man and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that mentality. Helps to drive healthy competition. By all accounts, the dude has come a long way since FSU and the words from the players who have shared the same locker room echo a very positive sentiment. Of course, like Hollywood, we have to create non-existent dramatic flair where there is none.
  22. Yes, it has been bottled up. While professional football has to generate a profit, again I ask, how much and how far has it removed itself from the common fan? This is why they maintain the emotional appeal - listen to the draft when fans are brought on to announce picks "My Cleveland Browns select....". It isn't just season ticket costs. Look at all the nickel and dime expenses. I had to get several apps this year, pay the month fee, just to watch a couple games. Amazon, peacock, CBS, etc etc. It's the principle of it at this point. People being bilked for every last dollar. Stop giving, and the NFL, like any other business, will respond accordingly. I'm splitting a YouTube TV account with a couple friends this year, getting a digital antenna and That's it. I'll pirate everything else. Well, there's the yearly fee for the coaches film, but it falls under fair use so I can't complain. While the middle class was much stronger than today. The underlying point, is the fact that a larger and larger percentage of people are being priced out. It will come a time when few will be able to afford, or in my case, willing to spend the money. But you're right, it is what it is.
  23. At any given era, there are only a small handful of QBs able to consistently lead their teams to post season wins as the offensive focal point. These are the talents that you could put on any team, in any offensive system and they'd still find a way to deliver. Even at 16 teams, you'd still have likely half looking to upgrade to find that elite, top 5 QB every season or at least paying an eye to that future. My comment is more towards the game of football crossing the line from sport that gives an attachment to your soul and community, into the realm of a money driven machine where the bottom line is *all* which matters. The Browns raised their season ticket prices again. Why? It's an incredibly profitable product with a dedicated fan base. The middle class has been eroding for over 40 years. Those who would find this game, and their connection to it, being a primary source of enjoyment, are losing that connection. Fans increasingly can't afford to make the games, the die-hard identity group like so many here. I had an email from tOSU collective about donating to NIL funds. Fuck. That. Your most precious resources are your time and your health. I trade my time for money Everytime I walk into work. I'm not giving additional monies to a collective for a perfectly healthy 17 year old, with the whole world in front of them, just to have them hit the transfer portal when they don't get the playing time they think they've earned or just want more money from year 1 to 2. The NCAA fucked up letting college players scrounge for years while they banked rolled. Now? It's all about securing "the bag" for yourself and yourself only. I hear that about kids going to major schools, nevermind the fact that, as an 18 year old freshman having never set foot on the field, your NIL valuation will be worth more money than what over half the people in those stands make in a year who are older and have worked longer on their lives. The soul of football has been poisoned. Don't even get me started on how commercialized the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce thing was/is. Not that I give an iota of a fuck about their relationship itself, but those Swifty eyes and their mental-illness, idol worshipping selves have made it where the NFL now has a vested interest with profit attached to it to insure that those eyes don't leave the screens. This Superbowl was the most watched ever, it is no small coincidence, I'm sure. The bottom line, the Almighty dollar itself, has become the single most important thing above all. It makes me sick. Or as the Joker once said "All you people care about is money"
  24. Not yet. Weather sucks today. I'm meeting a friend of mine out for a beer, then after that I'll be relaxing all day and jumping on some LB tape. I'll give you my initial impression later.
  25. What boosted his combine score was his 40 time. There was no shuttle or 3 cone. And downhill, straight line speed as a linebacker is no where near as important as being able to move, start and stop, laterally to recover or pursue. Combine that with the slower eyes and processing.... I have concerns. And, from the two games I've watched so far, that lack of above average sideline to sideline really stands out. "Leadership" is a cliche' term. You have to be an elite rookie, contributing immediately, to be a leader. You have to contribute to be a leader period. So that's a non-factor in this particular eval.
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