30yearbrownsfan

11 hours ago, The Gipper said:

A few  things:

A.  Bill Belichick was not fired as the coach of the Cleveland Browns franchise.  He was fired as coach of the Baltimore Modell  (unnamed as yet)  franchise.  That is a fact.

B.   The other guys you mention,  Noll, Walsh, Johnson.....had shit for talent on the rosters they inherited...and they had a big hand in bringing the talent and devolping it during the first few years of their existence.    It was clearly evident with those guys, that despite their losing records that they knew what they were doing.    The same is not true here. It has been clearly evident that the guys we have dumped deserved to be dumped...and they were not ultimately qualified.

C. You mention the vast minority of situations.   4 coaches in the last  50 years have accomplished what you claim.    That means hundreds have not.  Building a system is great....if you have the product to build that system with.....and that product comes around very rarely. Those guys are the vast exception to the rule...NOT the norm.  Do you want the names of those  100+ other coaches that didn't do a thing? 

Exactly, since the browns come back in 99 how many these coaches that got fired went on to be anything like the one's he mentioned? How many chances we give these coaches isn't the problem. The problem is the one's we hired to start with. 

After watch the replay. Anything more then 2 game suspension is to much. He asked for and he got it. 

There was no flag for late hit. Rudolph out of frustration tears Garrett's helmet off. Yes off, watched it in slow motion. Its comes all but clean off and snaps back on. You can see the side of his face with no helmet. 

Garrett was just doing exactly what was done to him. Its should of ended there but Rudolph acting as a violent aggressor (playing tough guy) wouldn't let it go.

Todays helmets are very light. Be lucky if it weighs much more then 4 pounds with most of the weight being the grill and padding. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a mark on him.

He took a direct hit to the top of the head and wasn't fazed in the slightest. He is lucky Garrett didn't hit him with his fist because he wouldn't of been standing.

This weapon talk is a over reaction.