crstphr2

230 million for a 4-12 QB previously.

Who didn't see this coming?

On 8/24/2022 at 7:07 AM, Dutch Oven said:

I predict the game thread, and multiple threads after the game, will be especially spicy. 😏

I'll be 3 hours away in the wilds of northwestern Pennsylvania that weekend, so you mods can breathe easily. 🙂

But I fully expect the Panthers to pull one out. Hope I'm wrong. 

Please don't use the phrase "pull one out" here.  It's a sensitive matter.

On 8/1/2022 at 2:58 PM, crstphr2 said:

It is important to let this play out.

Things to note:

The owners are not subject to the CBA which this falls under.

The gambler is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.

The PED user is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.

The ball deflator is not subject to the Person Conduct Policy which this falls under.

All those comparisons are not applicable in this instance.

However, all of those comparisons are applicable in the court of public opinion.

The MOST notable legitimate comparisons are Big Ben (1 accusation - 6 games) and Zeke Elliot (1 accusation - 6 games)

Sue Robinson's quote "Egregious misconduct"

I think this will be upped by 2-6 games and he will be fined and he will be required to attend counseling (which he should do regardless).

 

The NFL won't want to look weak, but will not want this drawn out all season again.  So they won't go for the full season, but they will increase it. But not by so much as to draw appeals from the NFLPA.

8-12 games.

IMHO

 

Ding.

I think many people are missing that this is all Watson's fault, not the NFL's.

On 8/1/2022 at 5:12 PM, DieHardBrownsFan1 said:

No fkg way.

Looks like you are right,  probably going to do the whole season at this point.

35 minutes ago, laiccm said:

Welp, he will be playing game 1....the NFLPA will now sue, injunction, then Discovery and the league will fold just like with kapernick because they don't want to give their text, emails...etc. The judge will probably be super angry the NFL brought this case to them because there's already been 2 grand juries and a retired federal judge they had an agreement with. 

The NFLPA did not appeal the 6 game suspension.

So the debate is for week 7 this year or week 1 next year.

Watson loses 1 million dollars in salary if he is suspended the entire season this year.

Watson loses 1.5 million plus for EACH GAME if he files an injunction and drags this out until next year.

No judge will rule against the CBA.  It is negotiated and agreed upon by both parties.

CBA says basically that both parties could appeal to Goodell and he will use the facts from the case by Sue Robinson.  She clearly found him "guilty" of violating the Personal Conduct Policy.  Also, the NFL will say Watson's actions are unprecedented.

Worst thing Watson and NFLPA can do is appeal in federal court and get an injunction.  He will lose a ton more money.

And if he starts games this year.  Gets suspended next year it SIGNIFICANTLY increases his salary loss.

It is important to let this play out.

Things to note:

The owners are not subject to the CBA which this falls under.

The gambler is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.

The PED user is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.

The ball deflator is not subject to the Person Conduct Policy which this falls under.

All those comparisons are not applicable in this instance.

However, all of those comparisons are applicable in the court of public opinion.

The MOST notable legitimate comparisons are Big Ben (1 accusation - 6 games) and Zeke Elliot (1 accusation - 6 games)

Sue Robinson's quote "Egregious misconduct"

I think this will be upped by 2-6 games and he will be fined and he will be required to attend counseling (which he should do regardless).

The NFL won't want to look weak, but will not want this drawn out all season again.  So they won't go for the full season, but they will increase it. But not by so much as to draw appeals from the NFLPA.

8-12 games.

IMHO

Just want to point two things out that keep getting mis reported.

1.  Watson did NOT sit out last year for discipline, he sat out refusing to play for the Texans.

2.  Dan Snyder was fined 10 million and suspended for a year.  (Not OFFICIALLY, but in reality)

The end result is:

In no way, shape, or form will this guy be behind center of any team until the cases are resolved (one way or another).

The NFL won't allow it.  

16 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

Well...Wade is only like 75 years old....plus, I think he has a job, no?

Wayde is a Free Agent as of a couple of hours ago.

McDaniels - HC

Wayde Phillips - DC

2 minutes ago, 7moses7 said:

What did they win ???

4-44 in three years prior

13 wins last two years.

baby steps.

22 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said:

Josh McDaniels is the guy 

This^^

No Meyer please.

No thanks.

If the browns go 3-1 over the last 4 games (which they should)

They will finish 8-8 (better than last year)

Division record 4-2 (better than last year)

Conference record 7-5 (better than last year)

It takes time to build a winner.  Address the O-line and they are going to be a bit better next year.

This is all that needs to be known.  Win and you are pretty much in.

5-0 = 98% in

4-1 = 63% in

Playoffstatus.com

Remaining Games

This Dolphins team is the worst I've seen.  Worse than the 0-16 Browns or Lions.

There are 5 pro-bowlers on that list of draftees.

That is an extremely good rate.