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3 minutes ago, D Bone said:

What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions? I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".

I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.

WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions?  Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.

 

Well said D bone.   

Just now, calfoxwc said:

after he charged Garrett, his left arm missed...because he got boinked by his own helmet.

After kicking Garrett in the nuts, after trying to rip Garrett's helmet off. He should be suspended, too.

Oh, AFTER he got hit in the head with his helmet?   Of for shame on him for taking a swing.   Geez.  Do you hear yourself?

7 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

not doctored.

https://fox8.com/2019/11/15/myles-garrett-ejected-from-thursday-night-game-after-starting-brawl-with-steelers-qb/

Your own quarterback said it against his own teammate...”It was INEXCUSABLE.”

Mayfield calling it like it is. I applaud him being a man. 

Just now, calfoxwc said:

not doctored.

https://fox8.com/2019/11/15/myles-garrett-ejected-from-thursday-night-game-after-starting-brawl-with-steelers-qb/

At no time is Rudolph trying to punch him. And his linemen are holding Garrett back from their QB and pushing him.  Of course Rudolph shouldn’t have chased after him, but then Garrett drives the helmet towards Rudolph’s head.   I’m pretty sure Garrett isn’t trembling in fear of any QB.  

1 minute ago, crunchy said:

How could he be wearing a helmet if it got pulled off? 

1st rule of football: always keep your helmet on. If Mason had just followed this rule none of this would have happened

Hahaha.  He clearly didn’t get the memo

1 minute ago, calfoxwc said:

bs.  I watched him address it in the locker room. He was humble and admitted he lost control of his emotions. It's understandable, not excusable - he had his helmet ripped off after a very clean, gentle sack, and slut mason tried to rip his helmet off, and kicked him in the nuts at least once. Then the other slut squealers jumped on and restrained Garrett, and slut mason went after Garret while he was being held, and tried to punch Garrett in the face. So, Garrett swung a helmet at him to keep him at bay.

Wrong? yep. but so was slut mason, pouncy etc. I mean, which would anybody here rather have - a glancing blow to your head and you're fine, or pouncey stomping 320 lbs into your head and kicked in the nuts?

My god man, what doctored video replay are you watching?!?

Just now, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said:

Moral of the story, don’t charge a man who is twice your size and has ripped your helmet off, unless you wanna get doinked on the head with it.

Oh nobody said it was smart.   But Garrett and the Browns are the ones who will be paying the price for his stupidity.   Unfortunately it wasn’t a good look for the NFL either.  

Just now, calfoxwc said:

slut mason says the swing by his own helmet was "cowardly".

hey slut mason - you "cowardly" tried to rip Garrett's helmet off, while he was being restrained.

 

Geezus man, there’s a difference between trying to pull a players helmet off and using it as a weapon against a player NOT WEARING ONE.  

4 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said:

You saw him being held back. He couldn’t just kick Rudolph’s ass, like he wanted to. 

I’m not defending the swing. I’m saying Garrett wouldn’t have swung had Rudolph not charged Garrett, who was already being held back. Rudolph was asking for it, man.

Yeah, Miles Garret was clearly the victim here...   

1 minute ago, Icecube said:

Asking to get hit by a helmet, while not having one on? That was a wussy, b-tch move. You're 270 and have to resort to using a weapon on a QB? Really? If he would have just fought him straight up, OK, I guess. 

Exactly.  Was Garrett justified to retaliate?  I guess, maybe.  But like that?  Never.   

1 minute ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said:

Charging a fully grown man who just ripped your helmet off right after you tried to rip his helmet off and kick him in the NUTs, is asking for IT, my friend.

No.   Not with a weapon.   

2 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said:

The idea of Myles Garrett swinging a helmet is why everyone is freaking out. He barely tapped the dude, and Rudolph was literally asking for it. Hopefully the NFL takes that into consideration.

Tapped?   Wow.   And asking for it?   A retaliatory punch...sure.  Smacking him with his own helmet.   Never.    I’m not sure excusing Garret’s conduct is the right angle to take on this as a fan base.  

1 minute ago, bjh2130 said:

Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

No I’m really not.  I was just giving my unbiased opinion.  And yes I do remember that and you’re right, it did get tons of attention.  As will this.   But the injuries don’t really matter.  He clobbered a QB with his own helmet after the play was over.  To me that’s about as bad as it gets. 

2 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said:

Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

Right, because you’re his trainer..   It doesn’t matter.  

3 minutes ago, bjh2130 said:

Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

2 minutes ago, bjh2130 said:

6 games is the rest of the year...

 Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td.

I’d say the difference is he ripped the dudes helmet off (his only protection against what was about to come), then used that very item (now a lethal weapon) and clocked him over the head.  I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I’ve never seen that before.   

20 minutes ago, ErnieCamacho84 said:

I'm buying a Garrett jersey tomorrow.

Fuck Mason Rudolph. He is a piece of shit human being.

I hope he develops a subdural hematoma and dies.

Dumb. 

2 minutes ago, bjh2130 said:

I believe he'll get 5 or 6. Think albert Haynesworth stomping andre gurode helmetless head. 

I believe this was worse than the  Haynesworth incident.  I’ll be surprised if Garrett isn’t done for the year. 

Unbiased fball fan here.  Simply stunned by final minute of game and wanted to see how y’all were dealing with it and what was being said.    Unfortunately I think Garrett will be out for a long time.