Troy Smith's tender

[mopaji]

Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified

RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G

1 Drew Brees, QB NOR 514 363 70.6 4388 8.54 75 34 11 20 109.6 293

2 Brett Favre, QB MIN 531 363 68.4 4202 7.91 63 33 7 34 107.2 263

3 Philip Rivers, QB SDG 486 317 65.2 4254 8.75 81 28 9 25 104.4 266

4 Aaron Rodgers, QB GNB 541 350 64.7 4434 8.20 83 30 7 50 103.2 277

5 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 506 337 66.6 4328 8.55 60 26 12 50 100.5 289

6 Peyton Manning, QB IND 571 393 68.8 4500 7.88 80 33 16 10 99.9 281

7 Matt Schaub, QB HOU 583 396 67.9 4770 8.18 72 29 15 25 98.6 298

8 Tony Romo, QB DAL 550 347 63.1 4483 8.15 80 26 9 34 97.6 280

9 Tom Brady, QB NWE 565 371 65.7 4398 7.78 81 28 13 16 96.2 275

10 Kurt Warner, QB ARI 513 339 66.1 3753 7.32 45 26 14 24 93.2 250

 

RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G

11 Eli Manning, QB NYG 509 317 62.3 4021 7.90 74 27 14 30 93.1 251

12 Donovan McNabb, QB PHI 443 267 60.3 3553 8.02 60 22 10 35 92.9 254

13 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 499 315 63.1 3613 7.24 72 21 12 36 88.9 226

14 Kyle Orton, QB DEN 541 336 62.1 3802 7.03 87 21 12 29 86.8 238

15 Jason Campbell, QB WAS 507 327 64.5 3618 7.14 84 20 15 43 86.4 226

16 Carson Palmer, QB CIN 466 282 60.5 3094 6.64 73 21 13 26 83.6 193

17 David Garrard, QB JAC 516 314 60.9 3597 6.97 63 15 10 42 83.5 225

18 Vince Young, QB TEN 259 152 58.7 1879 7.26 66 10 7 9 82.8 157

19 Alex Smith, QB SFO 372 225 60.5 2350 6.32 73 18 12 22 81.5 214

20 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 451 263 58.3 2916 6.47 90 22 14 19 80.9 208

 

RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G

21 Jay Cutler, QB CHI 555 336 60.5 3666 6.61 71 27 26 35 76.8 229

22 Chad Henne, QB MIA 451 274 60.8 2878 6.38 67 12 14 26 75.2 206

23 Matt Hasselbeck, QB SEA 488 293 60.0 3029 6.21 53 17 17 32 75.1 216

24 Marc Bulger, QB STL 247 140 56.7 1469 5.95 50 5 6 14 70.7 163

25 Matt Cassel, QB KAN 493 271 55.0 2924 5.93 61 16 16 42 69.9 195

26 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB BUF 227 127 55.9 1422 6.26 98 9 10 21 69.7 142

27 Brady Quinn, QB CLE 256 136 53.1 1339 5.23 59 8 7 19 67.2 134

28 Mark Sanchez, QB NYJ 364 196 53.8 2444 6.71 65 12 20 26 63.0 163

29 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 377 201 53.3 2267 6.01 75 13 20 24 61.0 227

30 Josh Freeman, QB TAM 291 159 54.6 1857 6.38 42 10 18 20 59.9 186

RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G

31 Jake Delhomme, QB CAR 321 178 55.5 2015 6.28 52 8 18 23 59.4 183

32 JaMarcus Russell, QB OAK 246 120 48.8 1287 5.23 86 3 11 33 50.0 107

 

 

QB Rating

Smith

21.3

League Average

70.2

League Leader

113.4

 

athensbuck: put that in your crack pipe and smoke it. isn't athens close to wv? exactly.

 

 

Wow, you wasted a lot of time compiling a list that demonstrates just how little Troy Smith has played. You also wasted a lot of time losing perspective on this whole thing. What can you get in the 5th round? Depth. You may as well take a very hungry young QB who has already been in the league a few years.

 

I HATE college football so I'm not a honk in anyway. But you offer your latest available 5th round pick and get a pretty solid young player with a good coach and Holmgren. Its clear Baltimore is doing him a favor by tendering him at a 5th round. They want to let him go because he is disgruntled and a 5th round tender will ensure he can leave and they can still get something in return. Its not a bad idea at all and it wouldn't matter if he played in Europe, it isn't a bad move on any level.

[miktoxic]

Wow, you wasted a lot of time compiling a list that demonstrates just how little Troy Smith has played. You also wasted a lot of time losing perspective on this whole thing. What can you get in the 5th round? Depth. You may as well take a very hungry young QB who has already been in the league a few years.

 

I HATE college football so I'm not a honk in anyway. But you offer your latest available 5th round pick and get a pretty solid young player with a good coach and Holmgren. Its clear Baltimore is doing him a favor by tendering him at a 5th round. They want to let him go because he is disgruntled and a 5th round tender will ensure he can leave and they can still get something in return. Its not a bad idea at all and it wouldn't matter if he played in Europe, it isn't a bad move on any level.

 

actually it took 2 seconds as i cut and pasted from an nfl.com page. btw, read the whole thread and you can see i never said i wouldn't take him for a 5th rounder. i'm making the argument that smith is not better than flacco. some have said the only reason flacco is the starter is because smith got sick. bullshit.

 

but i also agree with some others here in why waste out time with another mediocre qb who might get better (or not) or just concentrate on drafting someone who is better (even at a collegiate level) than smith is now? it wouldn't be too hard to do.

[hoorta]

Wow, you wasted a lot of time compiling a list that demonstrates just how little Troy Smith has played. You also wasted a lot of time losing perspective on this whole thing. What can you get in the 5th round? Depth. You may as well take a very hungry young QB who has already been in the league a few years.

 

I HATE college football so I'm not a honk in anyway. But you offer your latest available 5th round pick and get a pretty solid young player with a good coach and Holmgren. Its clear Baltimore is doing him a favor by tendering him at a 5th round. They want to let him go because he is disgruntled and a 5th round tender will ensure he can leave and they can still get something in return. Its not a bad idea at all and it wouldn't matter if he played in Europe, it isn't a bad move on any level.

 

Which was my point- if the Ravens thought Smith had real potential, they would have tendered him higher instead of letting him go for a sack of seeds.

 

Smith is really short for an NFL qb- and I don't remember enough of his OSU days to comment on his accuracy and velocity.

 

IMHO, if the Browns want a project, they're far better served using one of their extra third round picks on one of the second tier guys that's sure to be there. LOL, even Tebow. I see guys like Pike or LeFevour having way more upside than Smith.

 

[miktoxic]

IMHO, if the Browns want a project, they're far better served using one of their extra third round picks on one of the second tier guys that's sure to be there. LOL, even Tebow. I see guys like Pike or LeFevour having way more upside than Smith.

 

i agree 100%!

 

[LCDawgFan13]

actually it took 2 seconds as i cut and pasted from an nfl.com page. btw, read the whole thread and you can see i never said i wouldn't take him for a 5th rounder. i'm making the argument that smith is not better than flacco. some have said the only reason flacco is the starter is because smith got sick. bullshit.

 

but i also agree with some others here in why waste out time with another mediocre qb who might get better (or not) or just concentrate on drafting someone who is better (even at a collegiate level) than smith is now? it wouldn't be too hard to do.

 

With as many 5th round picks we have in this draft, using one to grab Smith would not hurt the team at all. And Smith may turn out to be something...he may not. But what have you really lost inthe process? As for the Smith vs Flacco debate...Yes, the only reason Flacco started over Smith during his rookie year was that Troy Smith got very sick. But to say that Flacco would not have been the starter ever because Smith was there is just ignorant. Flacco was drafted to be B-more's starting QB for years to come. Troy Smith, had his health not been an issue, would have started Flacco's rookie season as the starter. But he would not likely have kept Flacco from the starting job beyond that season.

[atfd30]

Which was my point- if the Ravens thought Smith had real potential, they would have tendered him higher instead of letting him go for a sack of seeds.

 

 

Now I am not sure exactly wich side I want to fall on with this issue, I have some positives and negatives for both arguements!

With that being said I don't agree with the fact that if they thought he had potential they wouldn't let him go for so little. QB is a leadership role, even for your back ups. When they step in to a huddle or are called upon for duty, they must command the role as a leader. If you have an unhappy leader in your ranks, he is not going to be able to garner the confidence of those around him to move the masses! I think Baltimore sees an unhappy potential leader and is capitalizing on opportunity to obtain something for him and prevent clubhouse issues. Just seems like a smart decision on their part.

[The Gipper]

Which was my point- if the Ravens thought Smith had real potential, they would have tendered him higher instead of letting him go for a sack of seeds.

 

Smith is really short for an NFL qb- and I don't remember enough of his OSU days to comment on his accuracy and velocity.

 

IMHO, if the Browns want a project, they're far better served using one of their extra third round picks on one of the second tier guys that's sure to be there. LOL, even Tebow. I see guys like Pike or LeFevour having way more upside than Smith.

 

 

That is, as they say, the rub. Does a guy that is young, who has only thrown 89 passes in his 3 year career rate equal consideration as a rookie? You have to look at it as if Troy Smith were available in the NFL draft this year. How would he rate against the likes of Pike of LeFevour. It all depends on the evaluation, and wishes of the front office type making the decision, in this case, Heckert and Holmgren primarily.

If I were evaluting the three on equal footing, I am not sure that Pike or LeFevour would grade out better than Smith. (I am not sure they wouldn't either. I am not qualified)

[rich4eagle]

or because he got very sick the last 2 weeks of training camp and lost the QB competition to Joe Flacco, whom he was beating at the time.

 

Stuff happens Smith won the job and got sick and Flacco did well and that is that!

 

Flacco was a first round pick and got the job and no team benches a first round pick unless he starts stinking it up. It is sorta like benching your kid who is playing well!

 

Smith has never had a chance so far in the NFL. He was a winner in college, I would be willing to get rid of either of our QB's for him.