Ted Ginn, Jr.

[Thaak]

I know he hasn't been stellar as a receiver who actually catches the ball.

 

But would he be worth a look see as the speed burner the Browns are looking for?

[Kosar_For_President]

I know he hasn't been stellar as a receiver who actually catches the ball.

 

But would he be worth a look see as the speed burner the Browns are looking for?

 

I would agree here Thaak. But I think a team with the lack of a good returner would be able to would give up more for him, you know.

[choco]

a 5th was what i heard.....id do it for that.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Pass. It's not his fault that he is a bust when you think about it. He should have never been taken that high in the draft in the first place. Being announced as a kick returner didn't exactly help him either. The fans never really accepted him. He has great speed, but can't get open to save his life. Decent returner, bad receiver.

[miktoxic]

I know he hasn't been stellar as a receiver who actually catches the ball.

 

But would he be worth a look see as the speed burner the Browns are looking for?

 

i thought he's only been in the league a couple of years. kinda crazy that you're willing to give up on a guy that fast and for that little. imagine him and cribbs downfield waiting for a kick.

[Earl34]

If Santonio returned a fifth then Ginn is barely worth a seventh.

[CLEVELandMILIDH]

a 5th was what i heard.....id do it for that.

 

Id give a 5th for him in a heartbeat. Even if he's not that great a WR you still have to respect his deep speed which would open up the field for other WR's. Delhomme loves throwing deep so if they dont roll a S over to cover deep delhomme could hit him in stride. When Maimi was playing Pennington the defense didnt have to worry about going deep because he cant throw it that far.

[Mr. T]

I would give up a fifth round pick for him. Atleast with his speed he would be able to stretch the field.

[ClevelandBigDawg]

I agree with Earl34, if Santonio Holmes can be had for a 5th rounder... I would think a 7th rounder or Joe Thomas's jock strap may get the deal done.

 

The dude is not that good. His hands are bad. He is a returner and we have Cribbs... We do not need a smaller less physical version of Braylon 'scissor hands'.

[D Bone]

If he wasn't from OSU, there wouldn't be one single comment, let alone thread, about acquiring this guy.....................Enough of where a guy is from, or who he rooted for as a young boy already.

[BigBrownsFan]

If he wasn't from OSU, there wouldn't be one single comment, let alone thread, about acquiring this guy.....................Enough of where a guy is from, or who he rooted for as a young boy already.

Exactly.... I was reading on the Plain Dealer about Jared Odrick... this moron that posts there said "he sucks, he is garbage" and compared him to Courtney Brown?

 

Huh? How the hell does one do that? A guy automatically sucks because he is from a certain school or another guy is amazing just because he went to another school.

 

Really?

 

I should have asked him how Vernon Gholston is doing....

[CLEVELandMILIDH]

This is what Ted Ginn brings to your football team when you have a QB that can throw further than 40yds

 

 

He doesnt have to catch 100 balls he just has to stretch the field and make you pay when you dont respect his speed.

 

Even when its againt the best CB in the league

 

A fifth rd pick for a guy going into his 4th year. Was very raw coming out of college, Miami wouldnt be stupid enough to do that trade

[Thaak]

In his 3 years, he's caught at least 34 balls each year. 2008 he caught 56. He's also caught over 400 yards each year. 2008 he caught over 700 yards. His combined average is over 13 yards per catch. He averages just under 2 TD's per year.

 

Put him in the slot as the #3 burner with Massaqoui and Robiskie... and I think he does great.

 

If we can get him for a 5, I say we do it.

[HaydenFox]

No Thanks. We can do a lot better than Ginn. Like it was said on here before, it is more of the this guy is from ohio state so there is a trend to over value him. He has displayed really really bad hands so far in his nfl career (almost as bad as Braylon) which has led him to not see the field in the phins base set and led the phins to give up on a top 1st round pick for peanuts. I would rather try to draft a reciever in the third round with one of our picks than give up a 5th for him. Maybe a plan b option after the draft. But could care less if we got him.

[HaydenFox]

We need a guy in the slot that has hands. Ginn has not shown that he can be that guy. I dont know that he would be much of an upgrade over furrey.

[CLEVELandMILIDH]

We need a guy in the slot that has hands. Ginn has not shown that he can be that guy. I dont know that he would be much of an upgrade over furrey.

 

Ginn's not a slot receiver he's a guy you flank out wide and spread the defense out with

[7moses7]

can't catch----end of story!

[ClevelandFanForLife]

you have to remember though that they are still going to attempt to make cribbs a receiver even though he really can't play the position. they aren't ready to give up on him yet, especially with the contract he just got. they will be working robiskie into the slot position more this year and he will probably be a solid slot guy. i don't see him as a number 2 considering that momass really isn't really a number one. he's our number two for years to come.

[metcalf]

Another ohio state reject

[HaydenFox]

Ginn's not a slot receiver he's a guy you flank out wide and spread the defense out with

 

I agree with you mills. He is not a slot reviever either. Theres not much he could do for us. I was stating that becuase other posts on this thread said to bring him in as our slot reciever and i was stating why he would not be a good slot reciever. If you use him that is exactly what you use him for is to flank him out wide and let him run down the field. We can do a lot better than ginn even as a flanker. Even with the core that we currently have he would struggle to get on the field.

[choco]

It seem some of you don't understand why Holmes only netted a 5th...

 

 

[Bag O'Browns]

I'm of the opinion you should be able to draft someone who can do what he does BETTER and perhaps have a higher ceiling. I don't think Ginn is awful and with the talent we have on our team now, he'd help out....BUT i'm unwilling to toss off a pick for him.

[jasont44094]

Don't need him, he's no better than Stuckey.

[HaydenFox]

I'm of the opinion you should be able to draft someone who can do what he does BETTER and perhaps have a higher ceiling. I don't think Ginn is awful and with the talent we have on our team now, he'd help out....BUT i'm unwilling to toss off a pick for him.

 

Exactly my feelings. i would much rather draft someone in rounds 2 - 5 then give up a pick for ginn. Preferably in rounds 3 through 5. I Think there is a much better chance and value with drafting a reciever then settling for a thus far mediocre at best teddy ginn. Though the dolphins will be looking to give him away for peanuts now that he has become their fifth best reciever.

[The Gipper]

This is what Ted Ginn brings to your football team when you have a QB that can throw further than 40yds

 

 

He doesnt have to catch 100 balls he just has to stretch the field and make you pay when you dont respect his speed.

 

Even when its againt the best CB in the league

 

A fifth rd pick for a guy going into his 4th year. Was very raw coming out of college, Miami wouldnt be stupid enough to do that trade

 

 

Miami has now acquired Brandon Marshall. I actually think that it would now be foolish for the Dolphins to trade Ginn. Can you imagine what this would do to open up Ginn with Marshall on the other side? I would definitely take him on the Browns if the price were right to, as you say "stretch the defense". Who do we have to do that now? Not MoMass.

[The Gipper]

We need a guy in the slot that has hands. Ginn has not shown that he can be that guy. I dont know that he would be much of an upgrade over furrey.

 

 

Hello, McFly, is anybody home? You ain't putting Ginn in to be your clutch third down "hands" receiver. He is in to be your home run hitter. He is your Jim Thome, not your Omar Vizquel. Yea, he needs to hit a few more homers, and strike out a few less times, but he has something you can't coach: blazing speed. Something the Browns do need.

[cribbs is the man]

Im not sure we want Ginn, depends on the asking price. but he is the type of WR we need, someone with great speed that can stretch the field, someone that makes a safety keep an eye on and pay attention to the deep ball. IF Robiskie develops, it will only result in a possesion reciever, and massaquoi lacks the top end speed to be a consistent vertical threat. Dont know much about Stuckey, he may be similar to Ginn, but theres probably a decent reason Ginn was a 1st round pick and Stuckey was a 7th...

[jasont44094]

Im not sure we want Ginn, depends on the asking price. but he is the type of WR we need, someone with great speed that can stretch the field, someone that makes a safety keep an eye on and pay attention to the deep ball. IF Robiskie develops, it will only result in a possesion reciever, and massaquoi lacks the top end speed to be a consistent vertical threat. Dont know much about Stuckey, he may be similar to Ginn, but theres probably a decent reason Ginn was a 1st round pick and Stuckey was a 7th...

That doesn't mean much after a couple of years. Colsten was a 7th round pick and he's better than 3/4 of the receivers that were higher picks then him.

[Riffer X]

First off, stop the Holmes comparisons. He was jettisoned because his contract had one year left and he is one strike away from a year suspension. He also is going to miss at least 4 games this year and the guy is a proven nob, even when he was at OSU. The Steelers did the right thing and actually made out pretty well getting a 5th.

 

I would absolutely give a 5th for Ginn, are you kidding me? I may even consider it with the last of our thirds. This guy has something we don't, and that is big league speed and defensive stretchability. He has also not been in the league long enough to be confirmed a bust. Many receivers take 3 to 4 years to come into their own. His hands have been questionable but he is not Braylons. For the most part he caught the ball pretty well at OSU but he did require some years to learn receiver. This carried over into learning the pro game so he should be far from written off. He is also a dynamic return man.

 

Ginn for a 5th would be stealing a young veteran that could be coming into his own and is one of the league's fastest players. However, his contract would probably be the main issue holding up any kind of deal. Some of you guys act like this kid is Paul "Glue Hands" Hubbard or something, and he is far from that. Has he lived up to his draft status? Absolutely not and he probably never will. But to act like this guy isn't worth a 5th is ridiculous, most 5th rounders don't even make the team. This is another case where fans totally overrate draft picks over actual players, but that's what you get when the draft is always our best part of the year.

[The Gipper]

Also, remember, if we got Ginn, he would be playing in the same town his Dad coaches in, Cleveland, Ohio. For any out of towners that don't know what Ted Ginn Sr. has done for football and the youth of Cleveland, please look it up because it is pretty amazing. His Dad's influence on him here I think would be tremendous for him...would it help him get open and catch passes, hard to say. It might though. And for a 5th round pick, I would do that trade.

Let's put it this way: I don't think you are going to be seeing Ted Ginn Jr. be one of those T.O./Ochocinco prima donna WRs, nor one of those Plaxico/Santonio/Braylon police blotter WRs, not with his Dad around.