We need Tom Tupa Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 If not DA or Gradkowski, our options in FA are: losman orton grossman boller batch ramsey See anything you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Not really, but I'd accept Gradkowski (depending on how he looks this season, if he gets a shot) or Boller (vomit) over the others, save for Orton who may start in CHI next season believe it or not. As an aside, why not audition Gradkowski now instead of starting Dorsey??? Grossman and Losman are OK talents but way too turnover-prone, Batch is ancient, and Ramsey just plain stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Not really, but I'd accept Gradkowski (depending on how he looks this season, if he gets a shot) or Boller (vomit) over the others, save for Orton who may start in CHI next season believe it or not. As an aside, why not audition Gradkowski now instead of starting Dorsey??? Grossman and Losman are OK talents but way too turnover-prone, Batch is ancient, and Ramsey just plain stinks. Wouldnt mind having Batch if he brings some insider info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Losman is a damn good quarterback when judged on the backup scale. When I think about the perfect backup, I picture someone who manages the offense without taking too many risks. Losman, to me, is the exact opposite of that. But he is the best "talent" of that bunch, I'd agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbndawg Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Whoever it is.......about mid-way through the season he'll be the most popular player on the team...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OconRecon Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Whoever it is.......about mid-way through the season he'll be the most popular player on the team...... Exactly why keeping Quinn and DA again is just a PR nightmare. I'm still not opposed to seeing how KD does. Let's see if he can handle it. Here's the '09 QB depth chart: 1. Quinn 2. Dorsey 3. Gradkowski 4. Cribbs 5. Zastadil 6. JJ 7. Heiden 8. Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I wouldn't mind seeing us bring in Dan Orlovsky. He didn't exactly light it up in Detroit this season, but his QBR (76.7) was better than Kitna's (72.2) and Culpepper's (53.6!). Ideally, I'd have him compete with Gradkowski to be the #3 signal caller. But Orlovsky wouldn't come here for that, and he's probably good enough to serve as the #2. And if the Browns end up "rebuilding" this offseason, I'd actually prefer we bring in a young guy like Orlovsky over a veteran QB who's only going to be here for a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Some fun with numbers: In the four games Orlovsky started this year, he completed 57% of his passes, threw for 4 touchdowns and 2 INT's. And his passer rating was a respectable 83.8. It's a small sample size, but it could be enough to justify bringing him in. One possible knock against him is that he's more of a stationary pocket passer than an athletic QB type. If our system next year is going to revolve around a lot of QB rollouts, then he may not be our (backup) guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I'm a Gradkowski fan, I think he can ball. In a WCO that we'll be running with lots of designed roll outs with Quinn, it fits right into Grad's game. He's a good athlete who likes to create. It's true he has small hands and not the greatest arm, but he'll be able to function in this scheme next year and they should be able to run the same system if Queen goes down. I'm ready for playmakers instead of game managers who can't really game manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I figure the new coaching staff would like an extremely mobile and smart qb, who has thrown for 398 yards vs the ravens one year. Eh, what'shisnname, would be a great backup qb, that would be better than anyone else on the given list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkandstoopid Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I'm thinking the backup QB in '09 will likely be Quinn. DA - gone Crennell - gone New coach demands a decent veteran QB brought in, and after fall realizes BQ is little more than a backup and goes with the vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I'm thinking the backup QB in '09 will likely be Quinn Name the FA QB he'll be backing up. Grossman? Losman? Orton?????????? I realize your a DA guy, but there really isn't an alternative to Quinn at this point. He's getting his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkandstoopid Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Name the FA QB he'll be backing up. Grossman? Losman? Orton?????????? I realize your a DA guy, but there really isn't an alternative to Quinn at this point. He's getting his chance. Heck, they might even bring in McNabb or give Testeverde a shout. Point being, Quinn's gonna have to prove himself to another staff and the one most of you guys are bitchin' about didn't have him as their first choice. I doubt any new coach is going to want to come in here knowing their only option is an unproven 3rd year guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 In the four games Orlovsky started this year, he completed 57% of his passes, threw for 4 touchdowns and 2 INT's. And his passer rating was a respectable 83.8. But don't forget that Orlovsky and Derek Anderson are golfing buddies. Could make for some more bad karma for Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Heck, they might even bring in McNabb or give Testeverde a shout. Point being, Quinn's gonna have to prove himself to another staff and the one most of you guys are bitchin' about didn't have him as their first choice. I doubt any new coach is going to want to come in here knowing their only option is an unproven 3rd year guy. There's no way McNabb comes here, man. Never. What would the point be? And I realize DA rationalizers are desperate and all, but did you actually drop Vinny Testaverde as an option? What's wrong with Don Strock???? Mike Pagel???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 And I realize DA rationalizers are desperate and all, but did you actually drop Vinny Testaverde as an option? What's wrong with Don Strock???? Mike Pagel???? Jim Kelly, Boomer, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I mean, let's be realistic here, guys. DA is as good as gone. The free agent market is dogshit. Quinn is getting his chance. Who knows what the result will be, but 2009's the time to find out. Anything else (DA stays, we sign a crap veteran to start) really is nothing but pure hogwash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Give the Donald a call, I'm sure Strock's somewhere in Florida golfing with a beer in one hand and a toddy in the other, gut hanging at John Daly level. You could use a strap on with one of DA's wrist bands, except Strock would only need about half the info written down for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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