Mitchell Passes Robiskie on Depth Chart

[shepwrite]

Interesting, and something being discussed on another board: The Browns have quietly moved Carlton Mitchell behind Josh Cribbs and ahead of Brian Robiskie in the depth chart... and Cribbs is probably out Sunday. Does Mitchell start?

 

Bottom line: The Browns will bring in one, maybe two WRs in the offseason, perhaps both at or near the top of the pecking order. The chances of Robiskie being a Brown next year seem remote.

 

http://prod.www.browns.clubs.nfl.com/team/depth-chart.html

[BrownB499]

FWW, That depth chart has Colt Mcoy as third string..

 

 

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/depth/_/name/c...leveland-browns

[ATENEARS]

That's my boy ... we need Mitchell to fly.

[36Bones]

I've always thought they should use Mitchell. He was Colt's main practice WR. This is before Colt started, of course. I say get him into the mix. Wall of text, I know but heres his:

 

Draft Analysis:

 

Release: Gets to top speed much faster than expected for his height, eating up cushion and blowing by corners without great speed. Can hesitate to lull defender to sleep, then accelerate to get separation. Is not pressed much because of his size and speed, but seems comfortable giving a shake and using his hands to free himself from the jam.

 

Hands: Inconsistent hands and traps the ball against his chest more often than not on short to intermediate throws. Tracks balls over his shoulder, able to secure the catch when stretched out on deep balls or throws to the sideline. Excellent red-zone threat. Better adjusting to high throws than low ones, but can get down to make the grab if given room to do so. Loses concentration on easier passes at times.

 

Route running: Will round off routes at times, but sinks his hips coming in and out of routes pretty well for a 6-4 receiver. Stop and comeback routes are sudden, a dangerous combination with his potential as a deep threat. Uses a head fake to sell routes. Willing to find holes in zones over the middle.

 

After the catch: Not many tall receivers are used on quick screens, but his surprising quickness and length allows him to succeed. Turns on the jets after the catch, with his long strides making it difficult for defenders to catch him. Can be elusive on screens but fails to avoid defenders when on a dead run. Height makes him a target to be chopped down in the open field by better corners.

 

Blocking: Has the desire and length to take defenders out of the play when he knows the run is coming, but a failure to break down and mirror his man allows them to avoid his grasp. Runs hard and extends his arms to keep safeties at bay while blocking for fellow receivers downfield. Resorts to ineffective cut blocks at times despite have the size advantage on the edge.

 

Intangibles: Tough player who bounces up after the big hit. Confident, well-liked in the locker room who has worked hard to be more than a track star playing football.

[MudratDetector]

robiskie just isn't getting it done. glad to see carlton getting out there.

 

buckeye'd

[Squintz]

What ticks me off most is watching the other local kid, Hartline, being drafted in the fourth round and excelling while our guy cant get open against a 5 year old.

 

What really soured me on #80 was his 'attempt' to recover Stuckey's fumble. I mean, to me it looked like he barely tried and only jumped in because he happened to be near. All he had to do was make an honest attempt and knock it out of bounds.

 

Dump him...send him to Denver with Quinn and Veikune. Maybe Josh will give us their 5th string WR who will end up going to the Pro Bowl with Hillis!

[DawgTracker]

There are a couple of things that Robo does well: 1) He sees when the QB is in trouble and quickly rolls that way to give him a target, 2) Finds the seams in the zone He isn't really quick, can't separate from a good corner and doesn't provide many yards after the catch

 

He seems to be afraid of getting hurt. I could be wrong about that but that is what it looks like

[ATENEARS]

There are a couple of things that Robo does well: 1) He sees when the QB is in trouble and quickly rolls that way to give him a target, 2) Finds the seams in the zone He isn't really quick, can't separate from a good corner and doesn't provide many yards after the catch

 

He seems to be afraid of getting hurt. I could be wrong about that but that is what it looks like

 

He's only played in like five plays this season so far right? If not and he has played in more sets, add 'disappearing magic act' to his list of things he does well.

[Harry Buffalo]

I highly doubt that this is true to be honest with you. As pointed out the depth chart that has Mitchel starting ahead of Robiskie also has McCoy as the third string QB, and still has Ratliff on the roster. On the other hand ESPN has it set up right. Josh Cribbs was never the starting 2nd wide out because of him returning kicks/running the WildDawg tired him out too much and he is really on in on 50% of the snaps. So Technically if Mitchel were to pass Robiskie, he would be starting even if Josh wasn't hurt, but considering how unwilling they were to use Mitchel when MoMass was injured, I doubt that we will see too much of him.

[slowburn]

16 receptions for 186 yards in 17 games not a real good payoff for second round draft investment of Robiskie. Special teams contribution unremarkable. I agree, his days may be numbered

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RobiBr00.htm

[hoorta]

16 receptions for 186 yards in 17 games not a real good payoff for second round investment of Robiskie. Special team contribution unremarkable. I agree, his days may be numbered

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RobiBr00.htm

 

Good character guy, and the kid does have good hands. I was hoping Robo would be another Brian Brennan type- but sad to say Robiskie is just too freaking slow to get any separation at all even from mediocre cornerbacks.

 

I agree with Shep- he's not on the team next year.

 

[Mr. T]

IMO: The coaches are tired of Robiskie playing like a pussy, did anyone notice how robiskie made a half ass attempt at the stucky fumble in OT?

 

Everyone could here Robiskie screaming and yelling... NO DADDY NO!!!! AND he went down in a whimper of shame.

[shepwrite]

There are some rumblings about his uninspired play (on OBR), that the kid is now mailing it in. Add that to a lack of in-line speed AND quickness AND size... and you have a guy waiting for a call next November.

 

Honestly, the Mitchell situation is a lower visibility version of the Colt McCoy situation. No matter what anybody says, Colt's only chance to convince the Browns not to draft a quarterback in round 1 or 2 (say, Ponder) was to play. He did... and now the Browns seem to have their long term guy and he looks BETTER than Ponder, not a couple rounds beneath him. And I like Ponder.

 

The Browns are going to bring in one or two guys at the top of the roster at WR... and the X factor is Mitchell. I think Stuckey, Mo, and Cribbs will stay, which leaves two roster spots. Will Mitchell get one of them? If we bring in, say, Jackson and Broyles, he'll be competing with Stuckey and Mo for a roster spot and would be the darkest of dark horses.

[Harry Buffalo]

There are some rumblings about his uninspired play (on OBR), that the kid is now mailing it in. Add that to a lack of in-line speed AND quickness AND size... and you have a guy waiting for a call next November.

 

Honestly, the Mitchell situation is a lower visibility version of the Colt McCoy situation. No matter what anybody says, Colt's only chance to convince the Browns not to draft a quarterback in round 1 or 2 (say, Ponder) was to play. He did... and now the Browns seem to have their long term guy and he looks BETTER than Ponder, not a couple rounds beneath him. And I like Ponder.

 

The Browns are going to bring in one or two guys at the top of the roster at WR... and the X factor is Mitchell. I think Stuckey, Mo, and Cribbs will stay, which leaves two roster spots. Will Mitchell get one of them? If we bring in, say, Jackson and Broyles, he'll be competing with Stuckey and Mo for a roster spot and would be the darkest of dark horses.

 

Don't assume just because we are going to draft WR's that they are going to come in and start at #1 and #2. There is never any guarantee that guys you draft will every be good enough to play on the field no matter where you draft them.

 

[ATENEARS]

I use to want us to draft a tall guy or a guy that can go up and get it ... I'm all about speed now. Draft a burner even if he has to be converted from another position.

[shepwrite]

I'd say that's true on many teams, but the Browns don't have the talent to keep a Julio Jones on the bench. No way. Hell, same's true of Broyles in two.

 

We need speed... but we also need a #1 with some size if Mo is the #2. We're pretty damn WCO and not likely to become an over-the-top kind of passing offense. The speed guy is probably the slot.

 

Julio Jones is big AND can run.

[shepwrite]

On this topic... here's a mock that would make our dreams come true:

 

http://www.draftseason.com/outhouse-2011-nfl-mock-draft/

[Harry Buffalo]

I understand that these are just mock drafts, but everyone one I have seen so far has the Browns picking up AJ Green.

[slowburn]

Can Green pass Coach Mangini's good citizen entrance exam?

[Harry Buffalo]

Can Green pass Coach Mangini's good citizen entrance exam?

 

The only thing he did wrong was sell a jersey. It's not like he did anything too serious and he got less money for it that every starter in college football gets from boosters after games (trust me it happens every where). Plus Mangini isn't drafting and Heckart doesn't care. Heckart drafted Jackson and I think Green will have a lot better attitude than Jackson does.

[slowburn]

The only thing he did wrong was sell a jersey. It's not like he did anything too serious and he got less money for it that every starter in college football gets from boosters after games (trust me it happens every where). Plus Mangini isn't drafting and Heckart doesn't care. Heckart drafted Jackson and I think Green will have a lot better attitude than Jackson does.

I agree that his slip up was pretty minor in comparison to the other infractions we read about in collegiate athletics. And he certainly payed his dues after having to sit out the first 4 games of this season.

 

He's bounced back to post some good numbers against quality competition. I'd like so see him in a Brown uni next summer at camp.