TheClevelandSound Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ks_clevela.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns’ coaching job is a great fit for Jon Gruden, but he doesn’t know if he wants to return to coaching just yet. That’s the opinion of one of Gruden’s closest friends — his father. Jim Gruden, 73, said he hasn’t talked to Jon, the middle of his three sons, directly about the Browns’ job opening. But the topic may come up when they play golf on Friday. "One day he’s up (about returning to coaching) and one day he’s thinking something else," Jim Gruden said, speaking from his home in Tampa, Fla. "I tell him, ’You’re a big boy now, just do what makes you happy.’ He really has a good deal (with ESPN) and my understanding is he’s pretty well thought of on television. He’s getting paid one more year by the Buccaneers. "As far as what he’s thinking, he’s got a problem because his son’s (going to be) a senior in high school, playing quarterback and linebacker. He loves watching him play. He helps coach the team. And I just don’t know where he is right now. I don’t know what he’s thinking." Jim Gruden, a native of Ohio who attended Orange High School and lived in Solon, was a big Browns fan. Like most fathers of the Paul Brown era, he passed that passion on to his sons. He remembers Jon wearing a No. 44 Browns jersey of his favorite player, Leroy Kelly, and "sliding around in the mud and bringing the mud inside the house." Besides the opportunity to coach the team he grew up rooting for, Gruden also has a long relationship with Browns President Mike Holmgren. Jim Gruden was a 49ers college scout when Holmgren was the team’s offensive coordinator. Holmgren hired Jon for what later was termed "quality control coach." One of Jon’s first projects for Holmgren was to devise a program to store Holmgren’s offensive playbook on computer. "Jon didn’t know anything about computers, but he hired some guy from Silicon Valley to teach him all about them," Jim said. "When Mike came back from vacation, Jon had the whole offense on computer disks and set up a program that a lot of teams started to use. "When Mike got the (head coach) job in Green Bay, Jon was at University of Pittsburgh and Mike called him and said, ’Make sure you bring those disks with you.’ They have a great relationship. "There’s a lot of things there that are perfect for him. It starts with the front office. You’ve got to be careful in this league anymore to look at the way the front office is operating. You’ve got a guy like Mike, who really is the one that brought Jon into the league. He thinks as highly of Mike Holmgren as anybody. "Yes, the Cleveland Browns are a great fit. That was his favorite team as a kid and he knows it was his dad’s favorite team, too. But whether he wants to get back into the rat race, I don’t know. Because it is a rat race. A lot of hours and every year in the fishbowl. He did that for 11 years as a head coach, and three more as an assistant in Philadelphia." Jim Gruden said his son still has the coaching bug. "He’s been doing all these games for ESPN," Jim said. "He has a little office about a mile from his house and he goes in at about 3:30 every morning and watches film, just like he did when he was coaching." Efforts to reach Gruden through ESPN have been unsuccessful. Gruden’s next assignment is on ESPN’s radio coverage of the BCS Championship game on Monday. Holmgren said this week that he has not contacted Gruden about the Browns’ job. The Browns are not commenting on any potential candidate. Gruden has been a head coach in Oakland and Tampa, but he espouses the style of offense necessary to win in the Midwest when the weather turns bad. "He’s gonna run the ball, if that’s what you mean," his dad said. "But you’ve got to have a great quarterback, too. You’re not gonna win without one. You’ve got (Ben) Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, (Joe) Flacco in Baltimore. He really likes your quarterback, I know that." Gruden spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy prior to the 2010 draft for a popular ESPN series called "Gruden’s QB Camp." Holmgren consulted Gruden before the Browns drafted McCoy in the third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Damn it, hire the guy already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire. I can't believe I am saying this, but... In Jon we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ks_clevela.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns’ coaching job is a great fit for Jon Gruden, but he doesn’t know if he wants to return to coaching just yet. That’s the opinion of one of Gruden’s closest friends — his father. Jim Gruden, 73, said he hasn’t talked to Jon, the middle of his three sons, directly about the Browns’ job opening. But the topic may come up when they play golf on Friday. "One day he’s up (about returning to coaching) and one day he’s thinking something else," Jim Gruden said, speaking from his home in Tampa, Fla. "I tell him, ’You’re a big boy now, just do what makes you happy.’ He really has a good deal (with ESPN) and my understanding is he’s pretty well thought of on television. He’s getting paid one more year by the Buccaneers. "As far as what he’s thinking, he’s got a problem because his son’s (going to be) a senior in high school, playing quarterback and linebacker. He loves watching him play. He helps coach the team. And I just don’t know where he is right now. I don’t know what he’s thinking." Jim Gruden, a native of Ohio who attended Orange High School and lived in Solon, was a big Browns fan. Like most fathers of the Paul Brown era, he passed that passion on to his sons. He remembers Jon wearing a No. 44 Browns jersey of his favorite player, Leroy Kelly, and "sliding around in the mud and bringing the mud inside the house." Besides the opportunity to coach the team he grew up rooting for, Gruden also has a long relationship with Browns President Mike Holmgren. Jim Gruden was a 49ers college scout when Holmgren was the team’s offensive coordinator. Holmgren hired Jon for what later was termed "quality control coach." One of Jon’s first projects for Holmgren was to devise a program to store Holmgren’s offensive playbook on computer. "Jon didn’t know anything about computers, but he hired some guy from Silicon Valley to teach him all about them," Jim said. "When Mike came back from vacation, Jon had the whole offense on computer disks and set up a program that a lot of teams started to use. "When Mike got the (head coach) job in Green Bay, Jon was at University of Pittsburgh and Mike called him and said, ’Make sure you bring those disks with you.’ They have a great relationship. "There’s a lot of things there that are perfect for him. It starts with the front office. You’ve got to be careful in this league anymore to look at the way the front office is operating. You’ve got a guy like Mike, who really is the one that brought Jon into the league. He thinks as highly of Mike Holmgren as anybody. "Yes, the Cleveland Browns are a great fit. That was his favorite team as a kid and he knows it was his dad’s favorite team, too. But whether he wants to get back into the rat race, I don’t know. Because it is a rat race. A lot of hours and every year in the fishbowl. He did that for 11 years as a head coach, and three more as an assistant in Philadelphia." Jim Gruden said his son still has the coaching bug. "He’s been doing all these games for ESPN," Jim said. "He has a little office about a mile from his house and he goes in at about 3:30 every morning and watches film, just like he did when he was coaching." Efforts to reach Gruden through ESPN have been unsuccessful. Gruden’s next assignment is on ESPN’s radio coverage of the BCS Championship game on Monday. Holmgren said this week that he has not contacted Gruden about the Browns’ job. The Browns are not commenting on any potential candidate. Gruden has been a head coach in Oakland and Tampa, but he espouses the style of offense necessary to win in the Midwest when the weather turns bad. "He’s gonna run the ball, if that’s what you mean," his dad said. "But you’ve got to have a great quarterback, too. You’re not gonna win without one. You’ve got (Ben) Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, (Joe) Flacco in Baltimore. He really likes your quarterback, I know that." Gruden spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy prior to the 2010 draft for a popular ESPN series called "Gruden’s QB Camp." Holmgren consulted Gruden before the Browns drafted McCoy in the third round. That's great man!! "strangers in the night exchanging glances, wonder if tonight what are the chances" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire. I can't believe I am saying this, but... In Jon we trust. I was never against the hire because of Jon. I was only against getting rid of Mangini and restarting again. If we had to pick anybody, I'd pick Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I was never against the hire because of Jon. I was only against getting rid of Mangini and restarting again. If we had to pick anybody, I'd pick Jon. I was never against it either. I just liked making fun of WRREBEL. Plus I like Holmgren as HC the most but Gruden/Cower are runners up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I was never against it either. I just liked making fun of WRREBEL. Plus I like Holmgren as HC the most but Gruden/Cower are runners up for me. I'd pick Gruden over Holmgren personally. Holmgren didn't have much luck coaching when he was in Seattle and had other responsibilities. Let Holmgren stay where he is, and work through Jon. They're like-minded when it comes to offense anyway, they shouldn't step on each other's toes at all, I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyd900rr Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Holmgren didn't have much luck coaching when he was in Seattle Yeah Super Bowl....no luck lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want him here. Besides his reputation, he is a Browns fan. He would be more passionate about this job than any other candidate we would hire. I can't believe I am saying this, but... In Jon we trust. Mangini was absolutely ecstatic about coaching in Cleveland because of their long term history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Mangini was absolutely ecstatic about coaching in Cleveland because of their long term history Unlike Mangini, Gruden knows how to coach a football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Brady Quinn grew up rooting for the Browns to. Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach.. Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317 This is why I make fun of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Another garbage thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyd900rr Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach.. Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317 Please show me where I compared the two? I was stating the fact that becuase someone plays/works/coaches for the team they like doesn't mean they are any good. Matter of fact I didn't even mention Grudens name now did I? I just think your pissed off because you THINK I was talking about your boy toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyd900rr Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 This is why I make fun of you. I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyd900rr Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Unlike Mangini, Gruden knows how to coach a football game. Then why did he get fired for winning 4 games his last season with Tampa? That's less them Mangini won this year and Gruden had what, 4 years to turn things around after he took Dungys team to the SB? Looks to me like his plan didn't work out to good there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think hes obsessed with the dude. Im waiting to hear what Grudens morning routine is next. I thought you would never ask goes to bed at 11 p.m. and wakes at 3:17 a.m. for a very early morning workout and a few quiet hours at the office. And he doesnt require a lot of sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Really?? Really your comparing Brady Queen QB to Jon Gruden the coach.. Not even in the same league dude, brady quinn was never named peoples most beautiful people Gruden gets his haircut every 4 weeks by supercuts his lucky number is 317 Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?) WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Gruden likes 317 because that is the area code for central Indiana and he knows the alien mothership is landing there to beam aboard the faithful. (why do I have a vision of WRREBEL sculpting a model of a mountain top out of mashed taters?) WRREBEL if you tell us next what kind and color of undies he wears you best change your screen name to JON's_BOY. That isnt why its his lucky number. stick to the facts! If i cant trust you to know why its his favorite number how do i know u really know what underwear he wears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I thought you would never ask goes to bed at 11 p.m. and wakes at 3:17 a.m. for a very early morning workout and a few quiet hours at the office. And he doesnt require a lot of sleep. Someone reads people.com. You left out the part about Gruden turning into a knife-wielding killer doll at night. Other wuss NFL coaches just suck on their wife's toes at night. When he is in his Chucky alter-ego Gruden runs the South Central LA Offense where knife and uzi wielding players clear the middle of the field for 95 yard quaterback sneaks. GRUDEN > all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Then why did he get fired for winning 4 games his last season with Tampa? That's less them Mangini won this year and Gruden had what, 4 years to turn things around after he took Dungys team to the SB? Looks to me like his plan didn't work out to good there. So would you rather have Marty Mornhinweg or Mike Mularkey, who were both failures in Detroit and Buffalo? Mornhinweg only won 5 games in two years and Mularkey won 14 but never took his team to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS? I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowburn Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS? I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he? Clay High School in South Bend, IN. Started college at Muskingum, finished at Dayton. College year book lists him as most likely to become overrated NFL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyd900rr Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 So would you rather have Marty Mornhinweg or Mike Mularkey, who were both failures in Detroit and Buffalo? Mornhinweg only won 5 games in two years and Mularkey won 14 but never took his team to the playoffs. Can I pick none of the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Can I pick none of the above? The point I was trying to make was that everyone is calling Gruden overrated and stuff. But at least he won a Super Bowl, and I have no idea why Holmgren would even consider those guys as head coaches. They both had their chances and fell flat. At least Mangini had a playoff appearance and 2 winning seasons, before he got fired from the Jets. So this seems to be the checklist: ( ) Pat Shurmur - OC of the Rams for one year, a team that finished 7-9 in the worst division in the history of the NFL ( ) Mike Mularkey - 14-18 in 2 seasons as HC of the BILLS ( ) Marty Mornhinweg - 5 wins in 2 seasons as HC of the LIONS (WINNER) (X) Jon Gruden (doesn't want to return to coaching this year) (X) Jim Harbaugh (declined to interview) ( ) John Fox - 1 SB appearance, 3 Playoff appearances, 73-71 record X - already out of play I've always supported Holmgren, but this is beginning to look like a train wreck of candidates. What is he thinking? If he just wants to interview failed HC's, why not call Dick Juron, Steve Mariucci, Rod Marinelli, Brad Childress, Romeo Crennel and Butch Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 The point I was trying to make was that everyone is calling Gruden overrated and stuff. But at least he won a Super Bowl, and I have no idea why Holmgren would even consider those guys as head coaches. They both had their chances and fell flat. At least Mangini had a playoff appearance and 2 winning seasons, before he got fired from the Jets. So this seems to be the checklist: ( ) Pat Shurmur - OC of the Rams for one year, a team that finished 7-9 in the worst division in the history of the NFL ( ) Mike Mularkey - 14-18 in 2 seasons as HC of the BILLS ( ) Marty Mornhinweg - 5 wins in 2 seasons as HC of the LIONS (WINNER) (X) Jon Gruden (doesn't want to return to coaching this year) (X) Jim Harbaugh (declined to interview) ( ) John Fox - 1 SB appearance, 3 Playoff appearances, 73-71 record X - already out of play I've always supported Holmgren, but this is beginning to look like a train wreck of candidates. What is he thinking? If he just wants to interview failed HC's, why not call Dick Juron, Steve Mariucci, Rod Marinelli, Brad Childress, Romeo Crennel and Butch Davis Find me the source that says Jon Gruden absolutely won't be coaching in 2011. As far as I know, he has yet to make a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyd900rr Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Find me the source that says Jon Gruden absolutely won't be coaching in 2011. As far as I know, he has yet to make a decision. Ask Weasel. He knows everything the guy does before he even does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I see where Gruden's dad went to Orange HS. Where did Jon Gruden go to HS? I think he attended Dayton College, didn't he? Clay HS, South Bend. Hey, it's THE University of Dayton, hate to admit I graduated from there too. Oh, and I had to check his bio on Wiki- was only the backup quarterback on Dayton's Division III football team, which means he wasn't very good. May have to drive down Evanston in the UD ghetto to see if his house is still standing. And since you're into trivia Gipper- what other REAL FAMOUS NFL personage graduated from UD? (no cheating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 That isnt why its his lucky number. stick to the facts! If i cant trust you to know why its his favorite number how do i know u really know what underwear he wears? Gruden is the perfect fit for this club and i hope he seriously considers coming to cleveland and coaching again.. Holmgren needs to get straight to work on it and not take no for an answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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