Guest jwhitt Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Raider fan here with my first post. Years ago Ryan was our DC and generally was well like by the players. He seemed to be a players coach and although he didn`t have the best of talent, our defenses seemed to be fairly vanilla, poor against the run, very few blitzes and God help us in the 4th quarter if we had a slight lead as Ryan would employ his famous "prevent" D which inevitably would lose the game. I guess there are rumours going around that Ryan could possibly come back to Oakland as "asst. head coach/DC". If this should happen, many of us Raider fans are wondering if Ryans D is still the same. This leads me to my question to all of you. What do you think of Rob Ryan? Do you guys see him blitzing opposing teams? Does he still use the "prevent" when you are trying to hold a lead? How was the Browns` tackling mechanics overall? Thank you for any thoughts and answers. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 He's sent a few all out blitzes that prevented us from winning games. I haven't viewed him as conservative at all though, maybe overly aggressive at times. Our defense definitely improved in his time here though, whether it was him or Mangini, they can coach'em up. Turned Rubin a 6th round pick into mentions of Pro Bowl, got our best pass rush from an undrafted guy, Marcus Benard. Our first round pick Joe Haden is a candidate for Rookie of the Year. Rookie 2nd round pick TJ Ward lead the team in tackles. That kind of wide scale development doesn't just happen, its coaching, so go away you cant have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 He is much different than in Oakland in my opinion. I heard he was handcuffed by Skeletor Attacking I think early on. Not as much later in the season, due to wright probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest runyon27 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Hey welcome aboard. To answer your question it is yes, he is still the same mediocre DC running the same bend but don't break schemes as he was in Oakland. If Davis signs him back tell him we said thanks for taking him off of our hands. considering the lack of talet for the most part in the front 7 I think he did a pretty good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I think he loves to blitz and bother the QB. If he had two corners he could trust he would blitz as much as anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Raider fan here with my first post. Years ago Ryan was our DC and generally was well like by the players. He seemed to be a players coach and although he didn`t have the best of talent, our defenses seemed to be fairly vanilla, poor against the run, very few blitzes and God help us in the 4th quarter if we had a slight lead as Ryan would employ his famous "prevent" D which inevitably would lose the game. I guess there are rumours going around that Ryan could possibly come back to Oakland as "asst. head coach/DC". If this should happen, many of us Raider fans are wondering if Ryans D is still the same. This leads me to my question to all of you. What do you think of Rob Ryan? Do you guys see him blitzing opposing teams? Does he still use the "prevent" when you are trying to hold a lead? How was the Browns` tackling mechanics overall? Thank you for any thoughts and answers. :cheers: Rob Ryan was an aweful coach for you guys. I remember Vance Mueller would talk hell of shit about him.. He is still a peice of poop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 TJ Ward lead the team in tackles. That kind of wide scale development doesn't just happen, its coaching, so go away you cant have him. Really? One of our safeties led the team in tackles? i think that sums up Ryan's defense. He would be a great addition to the Raider's staff (please). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Shumur will be our HC and fox will be our DC with mora as OC... This is prolly going to suck.. EDIT: Oops my bad after digging deeper maybe its not going to suck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 He is much different than in Oakland in my opinion. I heard he was handcuffed by Skeletor Attacking I think early on. Not as much later in the season, due to wright probably Who the F is Skeletor? Do you think people could use real player's / coaches' names rather than never-heard-before nicknames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Shumur will be our HC and fox will be our DC with mora as OC... This is prolly going to suck.. EDIT: Oops my bad after digging deeper maybe its not going to suck... I've heard Wandstadt (sp?) may be our new DC if Shurmur end up our OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Here is a quick snapshot of Ryan's D: Shitty against the run Shitty against the pass Lots and lots of 3rd down conversions Lots and lots of negative time of possession Low amount of sacks He DOES NOT coach up anyone. Period. Everyone wants to talk about how he doesn't have enough talent on the team. Well, nobody is going to give you the keys to the Rolls Royce until you learn how to drive the Buick. You can have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Who the F is Skeletor? Do you think people could use real player's / coaches' names rather than never-heard-before nicknames? HUH? Really? Google Al Davis and Skeletor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 ....and "Skeletor II, The New Beginning" is waiting patiently in Dallas for when Davis is gone..... http://www.knowyourdallascowboys.com/wp-co.../01/2418384.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshutchins Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I thought the Browns defense suffered a lot when Fujita got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Here is a quick snapshot of Ryan's D: Shitty against the run Shitty against the pass Lots and lots of 3rd down conversions Lots and lots of negative time of possession Low amount of sacks He DOES NOT coach up anyone. Period. Everyone wants to talk about how he doesn't have enough talent on the team. Well, nobody is going to give you the keys to the Rolls Royce until you learn how to drive the Buick. You can have him. Well we have no one that can rush the passer which doesn't help - especially when Fujita and Smith are injured for half the year. The one big problem with Ryan was that, no matter the play call, we got burned on screen plays all the time. For whatever reason, Ryan's defenses can't defend screens. It is extremely frustrating to allow a third and long completion a screen play- or a game winning touchdown (mjd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jwhitt Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thanks for the replies. If there was a Raider fan poll today asking if they would be happy about a RR return, I`m thinking most of us would pass. I still have the horrid memories of "With 7 minutes left in the game, Raiders are ahead by 6......" and RR`s "bend and don`t win" prevent D would lose another one as time expired. I threw this post out to you guys just to see if maybe he had an epiphany in recent years and changed his ways. Thanks again and good luck next year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedawg Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Rob Ryan was an aweful coach for you guys. I remember Vance Mueller would talk hell of shit about him.. He is still a peice of poop. I hate to do this reb, but you keep misspelling the word AWFUL. No E in AWFUL. Turn the spell check on brotha. oh, and I before E except after C. Gruden would give you the same advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Who the F is Skeletor? Do you think people could use real player's / coaches' names rather than never-heard-before nicknames? You cant figure out that Al Davis is Skeletor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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