calfoxwc Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I'll have to look into this...would we want to replace Ryan with Jauron? ************************* The Browns are reportedly targeting Eagles secondary coach Dick Jauron as Rob Ryan's replacement at defensive coordinator. Team president Mike Holmgren has moved on from Ryan. He has a strong relationship with Jauron, who was his defensive backs coach with the Packers in the early '90s. Jauron's head coaching experience also makes for a valuable sounding board with Pat Shurmur taking the reins for the first time.Source: NFL.com Related: EaglesCowbos Defese - TMJan. 13 - 9:07 pm etThe Cowboys reportedly have their sights et on Browns DC Rob Ryan to fill the same position in Dallas. The Ft. Worth Star-Telegram confirms that Ryan will interview Friday. It's no surprise that Rex's twin brother's big personality would appeal to owner Jerry Jones, though his work speaks for itself. Ryan boasts the best track record of the Cowboys' candidates, and he appears to be on the outs in Cleveland after Pat Shurmur's hiring. Ryan would keep the 3-4 scheme intact in Dallas.Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Related: Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Say, I think I like the idea... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_f...h_jauron_1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I would expect Ryan to be successful in dallas with their defensive talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Say, I think I like the idea... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_f...h_jauron_1.html Yeah, and he's got ties to Holmgren too. Wiki Link Not a bad idea at all- bring in a real experienced coordinator (who's had HC experience) to mentor the rookie HC. There's some guys who are great coordinators who were lousy head coaches. Dick LeBeau anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I can see it making sense with his experince and that Shurmur is so young, but i really hope we dont translate back into a 4-3 defense its hard enough with personal around that we do have we need to fill major holes, unless you put Rubin and Rogers at DTs and Then Matt Roth as a DE i dono if he could then who would are other end be?Scott Fujita outside line whos can play Mike middle linebacker unless we Retain D'Q, i dono it'd be hard to put some peices together to make it work...i do like the 3-4 and hope whoever they bring in wants to continue with that scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 And btw Rob Ryan is gonna have great sucess with that defense to work with Wares going to cause havok with blitz schemes its gonna make us look bad but we just dont have the talent that Dallas does on D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. [We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.] the Browns have run the 3-4 since they came back in 1999,what have they won with it?Its time for the 4-3. New coach new defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownB499 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 the Browns have run the 3-4 since they came back in 1999,what have they won with it?Its time for the 4-3. New coach new defense! The 3-4 started with RAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATENEARS Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Lety me take a wild guess that Dick Jauron also shares the same agent as Holmgren ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Lety me take a wild guess that Dick Jauron also shares the same agent as Holmgren ... According to this, it doesn't look so.....at least for now. http://www.psr-inc.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Our defensive front 7 needs to be revamped anyways and if we were ever going to go back to a 4-3 now would be the time.. Ryan lined our guys up 4-3 quite a bit and they all have various 4-3 experience so i dont really have a problem with switching, both defenses have their ups and downs and we currently lack the necessary personnel to run either efficiently or even through the course of a season due to age injuries.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious. So having 4 guys rushing won't be better then 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I would expect Ryan to be successful in dallas with their defensive talent I'll go one step further and say they will have a top 5 defense next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 it all points towards a 4-3. Holmgren and Heck came from teams that generally played that scheme, and the DCs being mentioned play the same. All of that also seems to point towards a Dlineman taken with the first pick since we are weak at the position, and thin at the position. One of Fairley, Bowers, Dareus, or a name not mentioned much, Aldon Smith would fit well on a 4-3 line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Lol....wow, this is getting sad. Jauron has such invaluable experience commanding the one team the browns have been consistently better than since we returned. Awesome..... Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensFan1996 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Lol....wow, this is getting sad. Jauron has such invaluable experience commanding the one team the browns have been consistently better than since we returned. Awesome..... Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya True, but the Haloti Ngata's and the Kelly Gregg's of the world are hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowburn Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Yeah, and he's got ties to Holmgren too. Wiki Link Not a bad idea at all- bring in a real experienced coordinator (who's had HC experience) to mentor the rookie HC. There's some guys who are great coordinators who were lousy head coaches. Dick LeBeau anyone? Don't forget: 1. Mike Nolan (MIA) 2. Romeo Crennel (KC) 3. Jim Hasslet (WAS) 4. Rod Marinelli (Bears) 5. Gunther Cunningham (DET) 6. Dom Capers (GB) Some have had better success than others. Three of these coaches fielded playoff teams this year. Romeo has five Super Bowl rings from his defensive coaching efforts. Valid argument regarding coaches finding their niche. Could Mangini be joining this list in the future? JTIOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 So having 4 guys rushing won't be better then 3? not when Rubin is your only DT with talent... then we are down 3 lineman and still have 0 pass rushers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Our defensive front 7 needs to be revamped anyways and if we were ever going to go back to a 4-3 now would be the time.. Ryan lined our guys up 4-3 quite a bit and they all have various 4-3 experience so i dont really have a problem with switching, both defenses have their ups and downs and we currently lack the necessary personnel to run either efficiently or even through the course of a season due to age injuries.. TICK TOCK. TICK TOCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 True, but the Haloti Ngata's and the Kelly Gregg's of the world are hard to find. Just to remind you the Browns could have taken Ngata instead of Kameron Wimbley. Could be why the Ravens have a great defense, and the Browns stink. OTOH, we may have found a keeper NT in Rubin- we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Why does a defense have to choose ? I mean, why not draft some freakin SMART defensive front seven, who can play both WELL, and PLAY either one, off and on, depending on situations and personel matchups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Why does a defense have to choose ? I mean, why not draft some freakin SMART defensive front seven, who can play both WELL, and PLAY either one, off and on, depending on situations and personel matchups? that would be ideal, but extremely hard to accomplish... especially when we have needs on the offensive side of the ball too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 The closer the Browns get to having all the pieces in place, the more impact the right picks will make. I hope the Browns stay with the 3-4 - it's more versatile... I believe the Browns defense is headed in the right direction. but all this talk about 4-3 or 3-4 reminds me of this commercial: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copper Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I imagine that we'll change to the 4-3 and then realize half way through the season that it was a bad move. That's when Big Rapist and Flacco will start throughing the ball right into the middle of our defense for tons of yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I imagine that we'll change to the 4-3 and then realize half way through the season that it was a bad move. That's when Big Rapist and Flacco will start throughing the ball right into the middle of our defense for tons of yardage. Um, they did that this year already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squintz Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Just to remind you the Browns could have taken Ngata instead of Kameron Wimbley. Could be why the Ravens have a great defense, and the Browns stink. OTOH, we may have found a keeper NT in Rubin- we shall see. Really like how Rubin is developing, but philbert really f'd us with that draft screw-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 No need to be sorry, GGG, I just hope the right coordinators are finally in place soon, and the Browns can get another terrific draft, and make hay this coming season. Beats me who the right ones are, obviously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 A change to 4-3 would not be that drastic and our younger players would fit it well, rather we go 4-3 or stay 3-4 our defense is likely going to struggle this year and if holmgren/heckert/shurmurnator are seriously considering the switch now is the ultimate time to do it as there is likely going to be big defensive turnover this offseason regardless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBagofDonuts Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Something I found in Philly paper on Jauron: "Jauron joined the Eagles' staff three months after he was fired as Buffalo's head coach. He was with the Bills from 2006 to '09, and was the head coach in Chicago from 1999 to 2003. Eagles coach Andy Reid brought in Jauron - who also had the title of senior assistant - last year to bring some veteran leadership to a young defensive coaching staff headed by 36-year-old Sean McDermott. Despite the addition, the defense regressed in nearly every statistical category. The defense allowed 31 passing touchdowns and was last in the league in red-zone efficiency. Reid said McDermott would be back next season." OH-Boy regression not good!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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