Slurp and Burp Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Rex Ryan has nothing but good things to say about Mike Tomlin, players praise Ben Roethlisberger. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football...l#ixzz1BQwCk7Au The Chances of Rex beating the Steelers are nill. Rexy likes to turn the NFL into the WWF with his trash talking and now will face defeat for the third time in a row in the AFC Championship game. Steelers - Packers will play in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Do you know who rex ryan favorite steeler is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurp and Burp Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 No I don't and nor do I care about a loudmouth coach whose whole family looks like they should be on the 'biggest loser." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Go somewhere else with this, no one really gives a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 How are his chances nil of beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh? He already beat them there and is coming in with a lot of momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Rex ryans favorite steeler is larry foote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 quote name='Formerly Sane' date='Jan 18 2011, 07:20 PM' post='225162'] This lack of motor mouth among Rex and his boys is surely brought on by the league and will surely screw up the karma of the mouths that roar! My favorite Bart Scott play of alll time!! http://youtu.be/XcwXBMDk9p0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddbrowns Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 He is afraid Mr Rooney is going to tell the refs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I think the Jets felt like they had to get fired up for the Pats. I think they're pretty sure they'll beat the Steelers. So am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 dont under estimate rex ryans resolve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 This lack of motor mouth among Rex and his boys is surely brought on by the league and will surely screw up the karma of the mouths that roar! OK, Stone- Steeler troll has started thread- as some of your ilk have claimed never happens. Of course some one here has to take the bait and respond. Should I start deleting this stuff? Aw, shucks, it would spoil all your fun. PS your ex-Steeler Santonio Homeless is already running his mouth, so there goes that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 The Jets are a bunch of loud mouths, like their coach, who, on occasion, can play with the big boys.............but the Steelers are the better team in virtually every way except special teams. Perhaps we can break down each unit of the team and see if what you say holds up: QB: Steelers: BR certainly gets the resume edge over Sanchez. RBs: Jets: I believe the combination of LeShon Green and LDT trumps Mendenhall WRs: Jets: I believe the edge goes to Edwards/Holmes/Cotchery over Ward/Wallace etal OL. Jets: Mangold/Ferguson etc. gets edge over patchwork Steelers line which because of injuries are working with some 3rd stringers DL: Steelers. LBs: Steelers DB: Jets Special teams: not sure....though even you say the Jets have the advantage there. I think I have bee pretty fair with these assessments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Certain applicable stats: REGULAR SEASON OFFENSIVE STATS .................Jets............Steelers TOTAL YDS...351.0 .......345.3 PASS YDS.....202.6....... 225.1 RUSH YDS ....148.4...... 120.3 REGULAR SEASON DEFENSIVE STATS .................Jets ........Steelers TOTAL YDS...291.5 .... 276.8 PASS YDS....200.6......214.1 RUSH YDS....90.9 ...... 62.8 Scoring Steelers 375 opp. 232 Jets 367 opp. 304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gafreleets Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I don't understand? If you're asking how to run a better board, I would just encourage the powers that be to lead by a different example. 1. I'm not sure anyone said a Steeler fan "never" starts a thread, and even if they did.............so what? with all the mis-information that is contained on this board that is a drop in the ocean. 2. Why direct it at me? Your fearless leaders who are hell bent on running a gum-flapping Steeler hate board are the ones who need input not me. 3. Quite frankly, A fan from an opposing board starting a thread is perfectly acceptable on a football discussion forum as long as it is within the bounds of the forum..........this forum provides nothing but whinning, bitching, delusion, and hate for anything Pittsburgh........therefore nothing a Steeler fan can say would ever fall outside the bounds of this forum. 4. It's still a great forum for comic relief best forum in the world for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I doubt the Steelers lose this game. Yes, the Jets beat them there about a month ago, so chances of that happening again aren't too good. Other points..1) the Jets kicker, Folk is very inconsistent. I wouldn't rely on him, especially at Heinz Field 2) the Jets running game is good, but the Steelers are so tough to run on, the game may fall on Sanchez to get the job done. 3) first team to 10 points is going to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 How are his chances nil of beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh? He already beat them there and is coming in with a lot of momentum. No Heath Miller or Troy Polamalu for round 1. I'd say both player make a big difference. It should be a good game tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 OK, Stone- Steeler troll has started thread- as some of your ilk have claimed never happens. Of course some one here has to take the bait and respond. Should I start deleting this stuff? Aw, shucks, it would spoil all your fun. PS your ex-Steeler Santonio Homeless is already running his mouth, so there goes that theory. This guy barely posts and 90% of the time it's a Browns fan. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgpound3 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 QB against the D.....Huge advantage Steelers RBs against the D .....Advantage Tie - Mendenhall is a pretty good runner, but LT and Greene are also a good combo WRs against the D .....I'll take the Jets because Edwards and Holmes are much better than Brown, and Sanders, and an aging ward(who is still reliable) OL Against the D.......I'll take the Jets. They can run block and pass block excellently DL against the O.....Advantage Steelers LBs against the O......slight advantage Steelers( Steelers LB are faster, and the Jets LB are slightly slower, but still good) DB......Two words......Darrelle Revis... he is much more a game-changer than Polamalu. How many elite cornerbacks are in the league? I'll give you an answer: only one and his name is Revis.... Special teams........Advantage Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Why does everyone think the jets have an edge in special teams? Folk is more inconsistent than nate kaeding come playoff time and Brad Smith is banged up. Whoever kicks for the steelers now has been much better than Reed. Considering this game may be decided by a field goal, I say the steelers have the advantage in special teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I don't think your assessment is unfair but I usually look at the matchups rather than the static statistics. I think you have some huge pee/black glasses on QB against the D.....Huge advantage Steelers. Some advantage, not sure it is "huge". RBs against the D .....Advantage Steelers You are basing this simply on the fact that the Steelers have an outstanding run defense....yet I have already given them credit for having the better DL and LB corps, so I will stick to looking at purely the innate quality and talent of the RBs on the field and stick with the Jets as having the better tandem. Certainly it may be possible that the Steeler RBs may out perform the Jet RBs, but that may be because the Steeler RBs are going against a much weaker rush defense. WRs against the D .....I'll take the Steelers simply because Edwards and Holmes can't "not" do something stupid sooner or later. Certainly Edwards is capable of making the big drop, but Holmes has certainly shown up big in big games. Again, I am not going on what you hope may happen....but on pure comparative talent. OL Against the D.......I'll take the Steelers because of our D and somehow, this garbage, patchwork O line has been protecting Ben pretty well. Same here. I am not buying your theory at all. Nor am I going to allow you to double dip by saying that the Steeler OL is better because the Steeler DL/LBs are better? WTF. DL against the O.....Advantage Steelers LBs against the O......big advantage Steelers DB......Two words......Troy Polamalu However good TP may be as a safety, Revis is the equal or better of him as a CB. In my mind they are a wash. And the rest of the Jets DBs far exceed the Steeler DBs in quality. One of the Steelers WRs will probably pretty much be taken out of the game by Revis....be that Ward or Wallace.....and then the other has to face Cromartie. Special teams........Advantage Jets And then these intangibles that you later posted along with points scored and points allowed per game: REGULAR SEASON OFFENSIVE STATS .................Jets............Steelers TOTAL YDS...351.0 .......345.3 PASS YDS.....202.6....... 225.1 RUSH YDS ....148.4...... 120.3 REGULAR SEASON DEFENSIVE STATS .................Jets ........Steelers TOTAL YDS...291.5 .... 276.8 PASS YDS....200.6......214.1 RUSH YDS....90.9 ...... 62.8 #7 comin up! All things said, the game will come down to what most games come down to: Turnovers. Last week the Ravens handed the Steelers several unforced turnovers which were their undoing. TOs will be the difference in this game. I am not sure what the stats there are (but, I suspect the Steelers have a fair advantage in TO ratio. The Dick LeBeau ballhawking defense is a stat/factor that is most likely in the Steelers favor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Other things: 1) I wouldn't discount the "Rex factor". Every few games he has to make really dumb coaching decisions. He is past due. He'll probably go for it on a 4th down deep on the Jets side of the field or call some "special" play that will backfire. One dumb HC call can lose it for the Jets. 2) Sanchez's inconsistency has to be considered. He's played well of late, but hs is highly susceptable to having a really bad game. The Steelers will pressure him too, which won't help his case. He's only completed a few deep balls the last two weeks. I think the Stelers will shut down the Jets running game and it will be up to Sanchez. I don't think he's "elite" and he will struggle. 3) Big Bendover's mobility opens up opportunites for the Steelers that the Pats didn't have. I expect some passing success at the slot, TE's and short dinks to the backs. I cannot stand Rex Ryan and I even dislke the Steelers more. I don't want either team to win. Overall, it will be a "suckfest" by both offenses. One coach, probably Ryan will gamble to get 7 points over 3 and will not get any. It will come back to haunt him. Overall, I predict two missed field goal opportunites by the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 DB......Two words......Darrelle Revis... he is much more a game-changer than Polamalu. How many elite cornerbacks are in the league? I'll give you an answer: only one and his name is Revis.... I could comment on the rest of your post but I'm just going to comment on this because you are absolutely wrong. A lock down corner is great and Revis certainly is one but he in no way, shape or form has the same effect as Troy Polamalu on defense. He takes the respective teams number one guy out of the game or at least tries to and usually succeeds. Polamalu effects the ENTIRE offense. He plays in and out of the box. Shadows TE,s WR's and RB's and forces QB's to audible almost constantly. He IS a game changer on the best defense in the league. It's also comparing apples to oranges as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely delusional to say Revis is more of a game changer though. AND in that same breath how many Elite safeties are in the game. Most only reference two when talking safeties. One was just eliminated and the other has beautiful flowing locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I think it'll come down more to if the Jets Offensive Line can open up any holes. Without a running game, there is no game for the Jets I really don't think Sanchez can put his offense on his shoulders and win it himself in Pittsburgh in late January. They aren't going to run the ball on Pittsburgh. The only team that had even a LITTLE bit of success was New England and most of that was because of Brady. The Jets will struggle on the ground and they'll put the game on Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I could comment on the rest of your post but I'm just going to comment on this because you are absolutely wrong. A lock down corner is great and Revis certainly is one but he in no way, shape or form has the same effect as Troy Polamalu on defense. He takes the respective teams number one guy out of the game or at least tries to and usually succeeds. Polamalu effects the ENTIRE offense. He plays in and out of the box. Shadows TE,s WR's and RB's and forces QB's to audible almost constantly. He IS a game changer on the best defense in the league. It's also comparing apples to oranges as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely delusional to say Revis is more of a game changer though. AND in that same breath how many Elite safeties are in the game. Most only reference two when talking safeties. One was just eliminated and the other has beautiful flowing locks. I agree with this. Revis is great at what he does and certainly makes it tougher on opposing offenses by taking away their #1 but Polamalu turns games around with his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 It's pretty hard to predict this game accurately. Based on the Steelers success in recent playoffs, let's face it, most of us are past being pissed off at how successful they have been. Hate them as we do, it's hard not to have a little voice inside saying " ah shit, those f#$%ers are going to win again. Then add the Jets not having much playoff success and us not really liking Ryan. and blah, blah,blah..... it's easy to think the Steelers are going to kick ass again. I look at the playoffs from this perspective........... Age plays a huge factor in football and a few of the Steeler mainstays are not exactly spring chickens. Even Ben has been through some wars himself. Now, are the Steelers a good team? For sure. Another SB? I don't think so, and here is why. Unlike playing against Kurt Warner, for the Steelers to get another SB they are going to have to beat two very good, up and coming, young QBs, some potent WRs, running backs and agressive defenses. Sanchez and Rogers (read bye bye Bears), are both guys who don't worship the Steelers and who are not going to be gun shy if their team gets behind. For the first time in a long time I picked against New Englinad, and ol Hoorta can tell you first hand, I really think the world of Belichik. However, as good as Brady is, in teh NFL, he's a little long in the tooth. At my age I have lived to see several changing of the guards, or Shift of power, whatever you want to call it. Namath urinating on the NFL prognosticators. The 64 Browns showing the Powerhouse Colts that football was a young mans game, Tarkenton coming up empty, YA Tittle kneeling on teh frozen field, all busted up and spent............. Don't even call it the odds, call it common sense. It is highly illogical that the mature Steelers are going to beat two young, up and coming field generals in the 2010/2011 NFL playoffs. I think Green Bay has too much fire in the oven for any of the other remaining teams, but just as New England looked old and tired, in this weeks 18th game of the season, don't be surprised to see the Steelers get beat. Will I be surprised if they don't No, but my gut tells me they're played out. If there are 4th quarter, come from behind antics? It will be Sanchez making the headlines. I wish I was close enough to have wings and tip a few with my Browns buddies. Man, I love football! The Jets won't be able to run the ball on Sunday which puts the game on Sanchez. Sanchez still hasn't faced the Steeler defense with it's most important COG and as most here and in my own fan base will admit the Steeler defense isn't the same defense without Troy Polamalu. Sanchez may be up and coming but he's not at the point yet to put a game on his back in the AFC Championship game on the road against the best defense in the league with it's best defender back in the line up. The Jets beat Brady because they got to him and despite his success his receiving options don't exactly stretch the field due to their lack of straight line speed. The Pittsburgh pass rush is going to be ruthless and they are going to dare Sanchez to throw the ball. If you watched the last game with the Ravens you also saw Ryan Clark being used in the Polamalu role with Troy more in coverage. I don't know whether that was injury related or not but say it's not and they plan to employ this strategy more on Sunday to keep QB's even more honest and Sanchez is going to be in for a long ass day. He's not going to take the gusty shot over the middle with Polamalu back in coverage. The Jets are a running team and Pittsburgh has maintained the number one rush defense all year and the number to which they are holding teams is in the top 5 all time. Sanchez is going to have a hell of a time. The Jets nearly lost the first go round and that was without both Heath Miller and Troy. If you recall it was Matt Spaeth dropping not one but two balls in the endzone with Ben fighting for the win. Put Heath in that spot and maybe the ball isn't dropped. I'm sure it will be a good game but I'd be lying if I didn't say I was nice and confident heading in to Sunday. Pittsburgh's offense is better and Pittsburgh's defense is better. Period. And as far as the "mature" Steelers are concerned in the midst of that "fine aging wine" is a bunch of youth. The old man defense is number one in the league and certainly isn't slowing down. The offense is pretty damn young across the board. The age concerns don't carry much weight. Look at the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 It's pretty hard to predict this game accurately. Based on the Steelers success in recent playoffs, let's face it, most of us are past being pissed off at how successful they have been. Hate them as we do, it's hard not to have a little voice inside saying " ah shit, those f#$%ers are going to win again. Sanchez and Rogers (read bye bye Bears), are both guys who don't worship the Steelers and who are not going to be gun shy if their team gets behind. At my age I have lived to see several changing of the guards, or Shift of power, whatever you want to call it. Namath urinating on the NFL prognosticators. The 64 Browns showing the Powerhouse Colts that football was a young mans game, Tarkenton coming up empty, YA Tittle kneeling on teh frozen field, all busted up and spent............. Man, I love football! Good post, but as someone who's been a fan as long as you, I disagree. It's going to be Steelers-Bears my friend. I posted earlier in this thread about the Steelers, I just don't see them losing another AFC Championship on their home field. The Bears will shock the world and beat Green Bay. I think the Pack is definitely the better team, but the Bears will persevere. Green Bay has had 4 or 5 elimination games in a row, it's going to catch up with them this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 It's going to be Steelers-Bears my friend. if that happens, just give the steelers the superbowl trophy now. chicago would be the worst team to ever play in a superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Quite frankly Gipper, your responses are so bazaar I can't even find the words to defuse them. Light years between Ben and Mark.....LIGHT YEARS! ONLY when it comes to as I said their "resume". When it comes to actual Quarterbacking skills I simply have to say "Not so fast my friend", I am not sure at this point that BR is a more accurate passer, a better reader of defenses, etc. Sure, BR has those two rings, but this is only Sanchez 2d season, and he is already playing in his second conference championship, so his resume contains some stuff too. As I said, I do give the strong edge to BR, but it is more like a few lengths (using horse racing terminology). As far as the RB's against the D Steelers! Again, light years between Reavis and Polamalu.....LIGHT YEARS Reavis does one component of the total better than TP, TP does ALL the rest better than DR......LIGHT YEARS! Any QB would tell you that....with DR, you simply don't throw at him, with TP, you have to worry every single play about him.......LIGHT YEARS Again, here, this is simply your boner for TP talking. Does he do some things different than Reavis? Sure. He might tackle and blitz better than Reavis. (though I can't tell you how many times I saw him whiff on tackles in that game vs. the ratbirds), but the 90% job of a DB is to stop the other teams WRs. Reavis does that better than anyone. I will grant you one thing that Froggiegirlyman does better than Reavis: Show off by running around with his silly hair flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Quite frankly Gipper, your responses are so bazaar I can't even find the words to defuse them. Light years between Ben and Mark.....LIGHT YEARS! Formerly Intelligent *********************************************** A "bazaar" is a marketplace. A "bizarre" response is a response that is strange. You would get lost in a small bazaar because you are bizarre. No surprise, just settin the record straight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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