TheClevelandSound Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Breaking news via Adam Schefter Twitter: "Browns placed their franchise tagon kicker Phil Dawson. Kicker tag projects to be about $3.25 million." http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter Doubt a team is gonna snag him for more than $3.25 million. Can't believe we used our tag on a kicker but Phil deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Smart move because it only requires a one year commitment and eliminates having another hole to fill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Plus he gets even more money than he wanted in a contract (thought he wanted around 2 million) and lets be honest he deserves every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsane Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 That's great news! Phil deserves it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Thats freakin awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 That's good news we have Dawson for another year. I wonder if its exclusive or nonexclusive? And I would have thought the Browns could've saved some money by using the transition tag? Now do we still take the best kicker in the draft for next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ_Browns Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Breaking news via Adam Schefter Twitter: "Browns placed their franchise tagon kicker Phil Dawson. Kicker tag projects to be about $3.25 million." http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter Doubt a team is gonna snag him for more than $3.25 million. Can't believe we used our tag on a kicker but Phil deserves it. this is definitely good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ_Browns Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I wonder if its exclusive or nonexclusive? good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ_Browns Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...nchise_kic.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns have franchised veteran kicker Phil Dawson, a league source said. Dawson, who has been seeking a new contract for several years, is expected to make about $3.25 million, the franchise amount for kickers. Dawson, who made $1 million a year under his previous contract, sold his house in Westlake and didn't expect to be back with the Browns. He can continue to negotiate a long-term deal with the Browns depending on what happens with the new collective bargaining agreement. A 13-year veteran, Dawson passed Hall of Famer Lou Groza (234) for first place on the team's all-time field goal list in 2010. Dawson converted all 28 extra points in 2010 and 23 of 28 field goals with a long of 48. He's also third in most points scored by a Browns player with 1,063, trailing Groza and Don Cockroft. Dawson is the only player on which the Browns have used the franchise tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4eagle Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns57 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I love Dawson and I have been glad that he has remained on our team but this is a ridiculous move. Sign the man for $2 mil. Last year was not a good year for Dawson and we reward him with this salary? This makes me excited to see what other stupid moves this braintrust will make next. Maybe it will be a right tackle as the first pick in the draft. The sounds about right. I am really hoping that Holmgren isn't an idiot. Because when an idiot surrounds himself with other idiots who are more like him (SEE RECENT HIRES) idiocy prevails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Well who's going to replace him? An unproven rookie? For some reason top kickers in college never seem to transition well into the nfl. Atleast this way we know what we've got for another year till we find a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 only the Browns would franchise a kicker who is over the hill and on the decline. Holmgren is a genius! Big money for a kicker who will get the average of the top 5 kickers when he is ranked 17th out of 32 with his peers. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...e&Submit=Go Where is this guy ranked?? It must suck that even the Browns have a better kicker than you idiots. So that gives us the advantage at TE, RB, P, KR, CB, and now K oh well at least he only missed that fg by about 50 yards to the left...blame the wind right? in the dome? makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Who else were they going to tag? I don't know that I'd consider a 13 year veteran kicker to be on the downside of their career. Many kickers last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Who else were they going to tag? I don't know that I'd consider a 13 year veteran kicker to be on the downside of their career. Many kickers last forever. Lou Groza, greatest kicker of all-time lasted 21 years. To me kicking is not as rough as other positions. Not saying it isn't as important, just that they aren't physically active as much. Keep the leg healthy and stay in shape. They don't need to worry about getting hit like other positions, and the running is a minimum. He doesn't seem to be struggling, and I'd take Phil over a rookie any day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurp and Burp Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that. Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that. Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren. They would never sign a GOOD kicker... wide left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 They would never sign a GOOD kicker... wide left Whats gonna be funny is watching Mike Wallace bolt pittspuke for big money when his contract runs up cuz I highly doubt the rooneys will show it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 They would never sign a GOOD kicker... wide left On a side note, please beat Miami (OH) tomorrow so we can have first place in the MAC. Oh, and your getting your ass kicked on ESPN2 next Friday. Continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news Because you're a Steeler fan? Ordinary? Buy a CLUE Rich. Dawson has moved into the top 50 all time points scored (#43 to be exact). He's in the TOP 10 career field goal accuracy- ahead of Adam Vinaterri I may add. This is one time I'll say the guy deserves every damn cent. And as others have said, great kickers can last 20 years or so. Seven of the top ten guys in most games played were kickers (Morten Anderson tops the list) my dear friend. Dawson passes Don Cockroft this year in points scored- and if the Browns finally start playing decent- he has a legit shot at topping Lou Groza down the road. In fact (regardless of who he plays for) me and Zombo (I hope) will allow you redemption on the Willie Green- Clarett bet. Buck for every point over under career on Dawson vs. Groza. Right now, that's $545 IOU. Seasonal updates will be prominently posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news He has not been an ordinary kicker, he has been an outstanding kicker. And remember, he is a KICKER. He is "only" 36. That might be old for most other football players, but with a kicker he could have another good 5 years or more. Half the active kickers in the NFL are probably his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah i agree about rookie Kickers and am glad were gonna have Dawson back for another year he really deserves it, alot kickers last forever i mean Jason Hanson of the Lions has been kicking for how long??? i beleive he was drafted in 1992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that. Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren. Giving him 3 million doesn't bother me. The only thing that might be bothersome about it is that it counts against the team's salary cap. In that regard it may seem like a bit much as it could potentially diminish the amount you could spend at other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Here is the list of the top active scorers in the NFL: 1. John Carney (46) 2,062 1988-2010 7TM 2. Jason Hanson (40) 1,890 1992-2010 det 3. John Kasay (41) 1,823 1991-2010 2TM 4. Adam Vinatieri (38) 1,659 1996-2010 2TM 5. Ryan Longwell (36) 1,583 1997-2010 2TM 6. Olindo Mare (37) 1,420 1997-2010 3TM 7. David Akers (36) 1,325 1998-2010 2TM 8. Sebastian Janikowski (32) 1,142 2000-2010 rai 9. Kris Brown (34) 1,123 1999-2010 4TM 10. Jay Feely (34) 1,120 2001-2010 5TM 11. Joe Nedney (37) 1,113 1996-2010 7TM 12. Rian Lindell (33) 1,084 2000-2010 2TM 13. Phil Dawson (35) 1,063 1999-2010 cle 14. Neil Rackers (34) 1,029 2000-2010 3TM 15. Jeff Reed (31) 959 2002-2010 2TM Look at the ages. Dawson could have probably been higher on this list with a better offensive team around him all these years, but he is by no means over the hill as a kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Field Goal Accuracy Leaders among active kickers: 1. Nate Kaeding (28) 86.500% 2004-2010 sdg 2. Shayne Graham (33) 85.950% 2001-2010 5TM 3. Garrett Hartley (24) 85.714% 2008-2010 nor 4. Rob Bironas (32) 85.561% 2005-2010 oti 5. Robbie Gould (28) 85.484% 2005-2010 chi 6. Stephen Gostkowski (26) 84.328% 2006-2010 nwe 7. Ryan Longwell (36) 83.498% 1997-2010 2TM 8. Phil Dawson (35) 83.168% 1999-2010 cle 9. Matt Bryant (35) 82.775% 2002-2010 5TM 10. Adam Vinatieri (38) 82.727% 1996-2010 2TM 11. John Carney (46) 82.414% 1988-2010 7TM 12. Jay Feely (34) 82.258% 2001-2010 5TM 13. Jeff Reed (31) 82.239% 2002-2010 2TM 14. Jason Hanson (40) 81.903% 1992-2010 det 15. David Akers (36) 81.894% 1998-2010 2TM 16. John Kasay (41) 81.853% 1991-2010 2TM 17. Ryan Succop (24) 81.818% 2009-2010 kan 18. Josh Brown (31) 81.557% 2003-2010 2TM 19. Olindo Mare (37) 81.390% 1997-2010 3TM 20. Lawrence Tynes (32) 81.176% 2004-2010 2TM 21. Dan Carpenter (25) 80.851% 2008-2010 mia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopaji Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Good for Phil. But it's an Oakland/Cincy move. Who franchises a fooking kicker?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopaji Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Field Goal Accuracy Leaders among active kickers: 1. Nate Kaeding (28) 86.500% 2004-2010 sdg 2. Shayne Graham (33) 85.950% 2001-2010 5TM 3. Garrett Hartley (24) 85.714% 2008-2010 nor 4. Rob Bironas (32) 85.561% 2005-2010 oti 5. Robbie Gould (28) 85.484% 2005-2010 chi 6. Stephen Gostkowski (26) 84.328% 2006-2010 nwe 7. Ryan Longwell (36) 83.498% 1997-2010 2TM 8. Phil Dawson (35) 83.168% 1999-2010 cle 9. Matt Bryant (35) 82.775% 2002-2010 5TM 10. Adam Vinatieri (38) 82.727% 1996-2010 2TM 11. John Carney (46) 82.414% 1988-2010 7TM 12. Jay Feely (34) 82.258% 2001-2010 5TM 13. Jeff Reed (31) 82.239% 2002-2010 2TM 14. Jason Hanson (40) 81.903% 1992-2010 det 15. David Akers (36) 81.894% 1998-2010 2TM 16. John Kasay (41) 81.853% 1991-2010 2TM 17. Ryan Succop (24) 81.818% 2009-2010 kan 18. Josh Brown (31) 81.557% 2003-2010 2TM 19. Olindo Mare (37) 81.390% 1997-2010 3TM 20. Lawrence Tynes (32) 81.176% 2004-2010 2TM 21. Dan Carpenter (25) 80.851% 2008-2010 mia Gip, is there a way to find out his stats on kicks over 40 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopaji Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news I can't believe I'm saying this but, I agree with you. He's a kicker! New England even let Vinateri walk. Why? Because he's a kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Good for Phil. But it's an Oakland/Cincy move. Who franchises a fooking kicker?!?! New england did it in 05 with vinatieri then drafted Gostkowski the following year. I think that worked out well for them. Maybe we aren't use to having management that think ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopaji Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 New england did it in 05 with vinatieri then drafted Gostkowski the following year. I think that worked out well for them. Maybe we aren't use to having management that think ahead. I'm trying not to get carried away this soon into the offseason but I just haven't liked anything they have done since the season ended. Phil is a kicker. Great guy, good kicker, but he's a kicker. There is no need to franchise him unless they are just doing him a personal favor for enduring this crap his entire career. I'm okay with that. But as a football move on it's own, it makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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