Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Sources say he's planning to finish his career with some team other than the Bears. Add him and move DQ to OLB? Our LB corps is the weakest link in the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Maybe a few years ago, he wants a ring though. He most likely he will be had by the Pats for chump change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 i love urlacher but there is no way the bears let him go. it'd be the worse PR move the 2000ish bears could ever make. our LBs are the weakest link on defense right behind the secondary. that's why i give our draft a C+. hit the mark on a lot of positions of need except those mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yeah urlacher I mean dont get me wrong I love him because he is white.. But he will want alot of money on the downward end of his career. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 i love urlacher but there is no way the bears let him go. it'd be the worse PR move the 2000ish bears could ever make. our LBs are the weakest link on defense right behind the secondary. that's why i give our draft a C+. hit the mark on a lot of positions of need except those mentioned. Agreed. Our LB's are awful. Urlacher would be the best player on our front seven, but we won't get him. Plus, Mik is right. It would be a disaster for the Bears to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yeah urlacher I mean dont get me wrong I love him because he is white.. But he will want alot of money on the downward end of his career. No thanks He ain't a half bad LB either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 At least we're I'm agreeance, the move would bolster the roster and benefit the team. Now were just haggling over the logistics. It's one of those rare cases where most everyone actually agrees on adding a veteran player. I, too, believe he'll end up with the Pats or another postseason regular if the Bears really don't find a way to keep him. I also agree it would be a disaster PR move to can him, but stranger things have happened. I don't think he'll pull a Favre and move inter-division, however, which eliminates the Pack from the equation. All that's really left is...Pittsburgh or Baltimore? Houston? Atlanta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 i think his foot's taken to root. meh....just another vet begging for another contract. i disagree he makes the roster better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 i love urlacher but there is no way the bears let him go. it'd be the worse PR move the 2000ish bears could ever make. our LBs are the weakest link on defense right behind the secondary. that's why i give our draft a C+. hit the mark on a lot of positions of need except those mentioned. There was zero way we could take care of all the team's needs in this single draft. So how is it you only give a C+ when we took care of three glaring needs in the first two rounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 ^cause we took the QB 15 spots ahead of where "the consensus" indicated he should have been taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 ^still don't get it? it's not that we took a qb ahead of where he was projected, it's because we used a pick on a qb period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 ^still don't get it? it's not that we took a qb ahead of where he was projected, it's because we used a pick on a qb period. That's even less of a valid argument than taking a QB ahed of where we thought he should be picked. If you honestly believe McCoy can be a viable starting QB in the AFC North, then you are just bat-shit insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 That's even less of a valid argument than taking a QB ahed of where we thought he should be picked. If you honestly believe McCoy can be a viable starting QB in the AFC North, then you are just bat-shit insane. you guys are all on crack or you just don't understand english. it's not about colt mccoy being a superstar qb. it's about seeing what he can do with the right side of the OL fixed and a running game. that's it. nothing more (of course it would be nice to have a number one receiver as well, but i guess little is as good as we've got). it's just my opinion. to waste a draft pick on a QB in a draft that was very weak in that position (besides the top 2 guys) was just plain stoopid when next year's crop will be better and even has a guy more suited to step in (barkley WCO=4 years USC)if mccoy were to fall flat on his face this year. i have no loyalty towards mccoy...but 2 years with no weapons and the guy's a loser???? WTF? hightower or mercelius sure would have been nice wreaking havoc in the opponent's backfield but instead fatboy walrus rolls the dice one more time on a spread offense qb. am i the only one that sees this? i was done with this argument but you guys keep draggin me back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Colt at the helm of an all pro offense is still a bottom of the barrel offense. That's why we "wasted" a draft pick replacing him....rather than "waste" another YEAR wandering if that noodle he weilds can ever throw a rope. That's all it is. We'd all love a pass rusher or another great safety....but nobody they put around colt is gonna give him the ability to throw a football. Not Richardson....Floyd....Wright.... Everyone else sees colt can't cut it....its not really an argument. Even the guys that drafted him concede that much. Wake up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBrown Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 In his opinion its a C but we all wont know until we see the product on the field. Really it'll take a couple years like everyone knows. All I know is that I'm finally excited about this offense. Last season was terrible to watch the offense. Like what was said hopefully we can put some drives together and that will let the D rest up. Go Browns!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 you guys are all on crack or you just don't understand english. it's not about colt mccoy being a superstar qb. it's about seeing what he can do with the right side of the OL fixed and a running game. that's it. nothing more (of course it would be nice to have a number one receiver as well, but i guess little is as good as we've got). it's just my opinion. to waste a draft pick on a QB in a draft that was very weak in that position (besides the top 2 guys) was just plain stoopid when next year's crop will be better and even has a guy more suited to step in (barkley WCO=4 years USC)if mccoy were to fall flat on his face this year. i have no loyalty towards mccoy...but 2 years with no weapons and the guy's a loser???? WTF? hightower or mercelius sure would have been nice wreaking havoc in the opponent's backfield but instead fatboy walrus rolls the dice one more time on a spread offense qb. am i the only one that sees this? i was done with this argument but you guys keep draggin me back in. So instead of "wasting" a draft pick on a QB with a stronger arm, faster delivery, much larger stature and loads more talent, you'd rather waste an entire year with a QB who's proven that he can't throw the ball downfield with any sort of authority. According to many scouts via Twitter, ESPN, SI, you name it, Weeden is a top 5 pick this draft if not for his age. I'll take that. You can sit around and shit over not getting Joey Harrington, I mean Matt Barkley, but I'm happy with the pick, no matter where we drafted him. Playing 4 years in the WCO or Spread or Wing T doesn't matter a fucking mosquito fart if the QB in question has half a brain in his head. News flash, skippy: people can learn new things, playbooks included. Talent will out. Always does, always will. We finally draft a QB with size, strength, productivity and who seems to be a good, smart, mature player and you shit yourself because now we can't get Matt fucking Barkley? Are you serious? Matt Barkley is Harrington with highlights, buster. He'll be riding pine before his rookie contract expires. Jesus Christ, I sound like Ghoolie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 So instead of "wasting" a draft pick on a QB with a stronger arm, faster delivery, much larger stature and loads more talent, you'd rather waste an entire year with a QB who's proven that he can't throw the ball downfield with any sort of authority. According to many scouts via Twitter, ESPN, SI, you name it, Weeden is a top 5 pick this draft if not for his age. I'll take that. You can sit around and shit over not getting Joey Harrington, I mean Matt Barkley, but I'm happy with the pick, no matter where we drafted him. Playing 4 years in the WCO or Spread or Wing T doesn't matter a fucking mosquito fart if the QB in question has half a brain in his head. News flash, skippy: people can learn new things, playbooks included. Talent will out. Always does, always will. We finally draft a QB with size, strength, productivity and who seems to be a good, smart, mature player and you shit yourself because now we can't get Matt fucking Barkley? Are you serious? Matt Barkley is Harrington with highlights, buster. He'll be riding pine before his rookie contract expires. Jesus Christ, I sound like Ghoolie. Fuckin mosquito fart, that was damn funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Weeden is a better quarterback than Flacco already, and might be better than Dalton. Since this is a passing league - go read the ColdHardFacts website if you doubt - the QB is by far the most important position on the field in determining wins/losses. Although I would have liked to see someone better at 22 and pick up Weeden in the second, I'm very happy Weeden's on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Jesus Christ, I sound like Ghoolie. you mean the guy that changed his view on everything browns overnite? yeah you do sound like him if you look at your posts predraft. way to commit. glad to know you guys stand for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 you mean the guy that changed his view on everything browns overnite? yeah you do sound like him if you look at your posts predraft. way to commit. glad to know you guys stand for something. You are comparing a 9 year veteran QB to another QB with 1.5 years experience. Which has the potential to improve? It's simple - the younger one. Young QBs aren't perfect. Colt hasn't been perfect but neither was Drew Brees in his 2nd year as a starting QB (3rd season in the league). Brees had worse stats in his 2nd year than McCoy has this year. look it up if you don't believe me. Brees had 11 TDs and 15 picks with a QB rating in the high 60s. Colt has thrown for 15 TDs and 11 picks with a 74 rating. I'm not saying McCoy is for sure the long term answer at QB, but we need to get some WRs, RB depth, and fix the right side of our offensive line before we throw another QB under center. It's been hard enough to judge McCoy with the players he has to work. Why give some other QB the same inept offense to deal with? I believe H and H will let McCoy start another year (which is the right choice imo) while fixing the rest of the offense (as well as the defense). We will most likely draft a QB in the later rounds (maybe one of our 4th rounders) and see what McCoy can do with an improved offense. Then in 2013, we will know for sure if QB is a priority. We still have so many holes on both sides of the ball to waste a pick on a QB real high in the draft. Thank you. It's what I've been saying since last season. Colt is not THE guy, he's a placeholder until the offense gets built. From December. Wasn't hard to find. What was your point again? I've been saying for the past year and a half that McCoy is not a starting QB. But thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 you might be knowledgeable about football and weight lifting but your wit and sense of humor leave something to be desired. i guess you learn that later in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 you might be knowledgeable about football and weight lifting but your wit and sense of humor leave something to be desired. i guess you learn that later in life. Well, you've got thirty or so years head start on me... I assume I'll catch up. And thank you for the compliment, however backhanded it may have been. I'm sure you're a real Chevy Chase. Meanwhile, stop pining for Barkley simply because he's been groomed in the WCO. Outside of that, he doesn't have too many redeeming qualities. What's the common denominator in the consistent playoff contending AFC North QB's? Size and strength. What's the one thing our last playoff (or near playoff, rather) QB had? Size and strength. Unfortunately, Anderception was football Retarded and couldn't hit the broadside of a barn on anything other than a deep fly. Weeden has the size and strength to get the ball down the field, something we've rarely experienced since 2000. And he also seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Personally, I'm tired of this dinking and dunking. We're too good of a football team for that. (GASP) It's time to put on the big boy pants and go deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 ^agree 100%. i liked DA only because he could throw the ball deep. too bad that didn't equate to football knowledge. DumbAs a rock. i'm hoping that we'll see a little more wide open version of the WCO that these guys insist on coaching and playing. BTW i'm no chevy chase. i'm a lot funnier. he sucks. BTW: it's not that i think weeden sucks it's just the fact that holmgren has the need to draft a AQB every other year. AND i too think barkley is over rated. IMO i think the pats and the giants and even the steelers have the blueprints for success in drafting in the NFL. too bad we'll never have anyone in the FO that knows how to read them. and this is from a guy who loved heckert's first 2 drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 USC QBs are icky FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Weeden is a better quarterback than Flacco already, and might be better than Dalton. Since this is a passing league - go read the ColdHardFacts website if you doubt - the QB is by far the most important position on the field in determining wins/losses. Although I would have liked to see someone better at 22 and pick up Weeden in the second, I'm very happy Weeden's on the team. I'm excited to see our offense with Weeden at the helm, but lets let them play a few games before we start proclaiming that Weeden is better then other proven (somewhat) QB's. As of right now we have the worst QB in the division (if you don't believe me compare Weeden's NFL stats compared to Flacco, Dalton, and BR.) Weeden will get his chance to prove himself but until he does lets not say things we have no stats to backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 It's time to put on the big boy pants and go deep. Thats more dependent on Shumur then Weeden. I'm not sure if Shumur knows you can throw the ball more then 8 yards down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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