MLD Woody Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 This is genius, pure genius Why no one thought of this solution before I'll never understand...
Mr. T Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 This has become nothing more than a whole scam when it comes to beach renourishment the local governments use this as a way to loot more money away from the residents while also grabbing billions of dollars from the federal government. Just recently the city of Wilmington hired a manager to handle all of the contracts paying him 75k a year. If you look at a map, the city of Wilmington doesn't have any beaches within the city limits. Another scam they pull of is a storm drain tax that nets over 30 mil a year to hire about 16 people to run around and clean out ditches and storm drains. The money goes directly to the new and improved privatized water dept. that all of the local politicians Republican and Democrats both have made themselves board members for a small salary of close to 125k each.
MLD Woody Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Posted June 6, 2012 So you think it is the right thing to do to pass a law making it illegal to measure sea level changes any way other than linearly from past numbers?
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 They're in the right place to put their head in the sand.
MLD Woody Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 Any answer T? I'm really curious. This shit is hilarious
Mr. T Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 Any answer T? I'm really curious. This shit is hilarious If you think that for one minute that I am going to support the local politicians here you are dead wrong. You have a lot to learn about politics in the southern states. If you dont understand the cycles of weather change then you need to do a little more research. Make sure that the research thet you are reading is not a AlGore Lie. Meanwhile its June 8th and the weather is in the low 80's here. This time last year we were facing the high 90's and breaking 100 degree temeratures. Meanwhile the swimming pool is in the 70's, still a bit chilly but come August it will feel like a hot tub and you will consider dumping ice in it to cool it down from the 90's. We could use a good hurricane so I can take a couple of days off and get some rest.
MLD Woody Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 Right. And it snowed this winter so obviously climate change is a lie.... So, you disagree with it because of the people that proposed it, not because it's completely Retarded?
Kosar_For_President Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 If you think that for one minute that I am going to support the local politicians here you are dead wrong. You have a lot to learn about politics in the southern states. If you dont understand the cycles of weather change then you need to do a little more research. Make sure that the research thet you are reading is not a AlGore Lie. Meanwhile its June 8th and the weather is in the low 80's here. This time last year we were facing the high 90's and breaking 100 degree temeratures. Meanwhile the swimming pool is in the 70's, still a bit chilly but come August it will feel like a hot tub and you will consider dumping ice in it to cool it down from the 90's. We could use a good hurricane so I can take a couple of days off and get some rest. They added 500 yards of beach across the street from me, I fucking love it. Nothing better than getting shit faced on Friday, walking 20 seconds across the street with a chick get a humdinger on the beach. From 1900, lol. The question is why only from 1900? No Hurricanes T. The mosquitos here are so bad. The birds here are fat as shit, I am not joking.
Kosar_For_President Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 And it snowed this winter so obviously climate change is a lie.... Woody, climates have been changing for ever. The icebergs are melting, do you know what you have with excess icebergs, an ice age. I am not denying the fact the climate is changing, it's just not caused by humans. From 1974 "Man, too, may be somewhat responsible for the cooling trend. The University of Wisconsin's Reid A. Bryson and other climatologists suggest that dust and other particles released into the atmosphere as a result of farming and fuel burning may be blocking more and more sunlight from reaching and heating the surface of the earth. Now, since the warming stopped 12 years ago, the alarmists are finally beginning to admit that the earth has started cooling again. And what are they telling us is the reason why? In what's got to be one of the most mind-boggling displays of chutzpah ever seen, they're actually saying that the reason that it hasn't been warming for the last 12 years is that China and India are now burning such a massive amount of coal, that it blocks the sun's rays from reaching the earth and warming it. That's right! Our use of fossil fuels is warming the earth, while China's is cooling it?" Link
MLD Woody Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 I like the part we he talks about how fantastic warming is. Cuz, forget all the damage it could do, that's when the Egyptian built the pyramids! I have a response for the global cooling thing too, I just can't do what I want from my phone
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 Woody, climates have been changing for ever. The icebergs are melting, do you know what you have with excess icebergs, an ice age. I am not denying the fact the climate is changing, it's just not caused by humans. From 1974 "Man, too, may be somewhat responsible for the cooling trend. The University of Wisconsin's Reid A. Bryson and other climatologists suggest that dust and other particles released into the atmosphere as a result of farming and fuel burning may be blocking more and more sunlight from reaching and heating the surface of the earth. Now, since the warming stopped 12 years ago, the alarmists are finally beginning to admit that the earth has started cooling again. And what are they telling us is the reason why? In what's got to be one of the most mind-boggling displays of chutzpah ever seen, they're actually saying that the reason that it hasn't been warming for the last 12 years is that China and India are now burning such a massive amount of coal, that it blocks the sun's rays from reaching the earth and warming it. That's right! Our use of fossil fuels is warming the earth, while China's is cooling it?" Link Kosar, this is one of the most tired arguments that the deniers trot out. It's probably been debunked about 10 times in here already. Really? And the argument about the warming stopping is also bullshit, using cherry picked data. They just pick 1998, which was abnormally hot due to El Nino, and start from there. Here's a great visual look at how they mislead right here. See how they do that? It's not very honest, is it?
MLD Woody Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 Oh nvm. If it's already been discussed I guess I don't need to respond.
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 I don't know how many times the "Newsweek had an article in the 70s" trope has been trotted out in here. At least a dozen. "The climate has always changed" line is in just about every single one of these posts too.
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 Here's a really good article from a conservative on global warming, who advocates pretty much the same thing I've been crowing about for years.
calfoxwc Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 mmgw is no fact. It's been debunked and strongly disagreed with by many scientists now. MMGW is a political gambit. Ice age. Melted. Before there were people. Solar flare activity boost. Poor Sheppie. The debate was over? His Al Gore is now a laughingstock. And "let us libs have political power over everything, so we can tax everything and buy more votes" has come out of the cold. It was bs all along. Just like the rest of us told you libs. And you still knee jerk emote about it.
heckofajobbrownie Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 Oh nvm. If it's already been discussed I guess I don't need to respond. It's fun to be in here. You get to see all the new models of denialism created by the corporate think tanks, fed through the right-wing media, and straight into the willing hands of the base. It's a very efficient system. If they wanted to pretend that global warming is caused by, say, asteroid dust, and not human-induced, you could make it up on Monday and have it posted in here by Friday.
calfoxwc Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 Not so great for you mindless, honorless libs - we've long since posted and posted and posted legit stuff from weather scientists who say that your political stance on mmgw is just a debunked theory, or in the least, not proven at all. The truth hurts libs - it's lib kryptonite.
Mr. T Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 They added 500 yards of beach across the street from me, I fucking love it. Nothing better than getting shit faced on Friday, walking 20 seconds across the street with a chick get a humdinger on the beach. From 1900, lol. The question is why only from 1900? No Hurricanes T. The mosquitos here are so bad. The birds here are fat as shit, I am not joking. In about 5 minutes i'm heading to snows cut at Carolina Beach to go fishing. The Cobia have moved into the area, should be a nice day out there. Last week I caught a 5 ft. shark.
MLD Woody Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 Cal, we could probably fit all of your scientific knowledge on the front side of a sheet of paper
calfoxwc Posted June 9, 2012 Report Posted June 9, 2012 Sorry - but you stepped in it this time. Perhaps you have it for dinner. See, ignorant one, we have long since discussed this to the nth degree. You missed it. You still add nothing to this board but little nonsensical quips, and personal attacks. iow's.... you still have nothing to offer up - that's pretty dimwitted I think.
MLD Woody Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Posted June 9, 2012 so that guy was totally a neurosurgeon, right? "mmgw is no fact. It's been debunked and strongly disagreed with by many scientists now." What in your mind is "many"?
calfoxwc Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 Can't you ever figure out how to do your own freakin research? Does somebody tell you what clothes to wear every day? I'd say after Shep's "VIRTUALLY ALL SCIENTISTS AGREE " foolishness... 400 and 700 scientists is many. But there are more now. ********************************************* z4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Technology/index.php?showto... z4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Technology/index.php?showtopic=2050 U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Dec 20, 2007 ... U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007. Senate Report Debunks "Consensus" ... epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blo... epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over. Man-Made Global Warming Claims. Scientists Continue to Debunk “Consensus” in 2008 &. 2009. (Updates ... hatch.senate.gov/public/_files/USSenateEPWMinorityRepor...
MLD Woody Posted June 10, 2012 Author Report Posted June 10, 2012 Yeah you fucking moron, I'm going to research your point for you. First I'd have to find all the crazy ass tea party conservative websites you go to and then blindly follow w/e they say. Cuz, you know, if someone doesn't they aren't a real patriot "Scientific consensus is the collective judgment, position, and opinion of the community of scientists in a particular field of study. Consensus implies general agreement, though not necessarily unanimity." Numbers are good. Percentages are better. This study says 97% of climate researches disagree with you
Kosar_For_President Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 Because more people believe something it makes is right? Jesus meet Allāh, Allāh meet Jesus.
calfoxwc Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 Well, at least Little Johnny Woodpecker doesn't whine about "virtually all scientists lick my toes" .... LOL What a pitiful little twit.
VaporTrail Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 Because more people believe something it makes is right? Jesus meet Allāh, Allāh meet Jesus. When 97% of people who research a certain topic have a consensus, then it would be in the world governments' best interests to heed what they have to say.
The Cysko Kid Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 When 97% of people who research a certain topic have a consensus, then it would be in the world governments' best interests to heed what they have to say. Geez 97% of people who want to see climate change see it? No kidding? 97% of paranormal researchers think ghosts are going to get you. They're gonna getcha! Better tell the u.n.
VaporTrail Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 Geez 97% of people who want to see climate change see it? No kidding? 97% of paranormal researchers think ghosts are going to get you. They're gonna getcha! Better tell the u.n. Except there's the whole peer review thing. But you apparently can't tell the difference between science and Ghost Hunters on the history channel. And unfortunately, the same can be said about the people in charge. fwiw, this guy's a dem.
MLD Woody Posted June 10, 2012 Author Report Posted June 10, 2012 So your argument started with "a whole bunch of scientists agree with me so there" Then I show you that 97% actually agree with me and you turn to "oh well that really doesn't matter anyway" what?! I'm amazed how so many people think they know better than scientists on so many issues. That was another study I came across, how so many Americans don't understand what scientists actually believe. How can you even compare ghost Hunters to actual scientists? Completely disregard the while peer review scientific method thing...
FairHooker11 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 When 97% of people who research a certain topic have a consensus, then it would be in the world governments' best interests to heed what they have to say. you mean like the United Nations - the LawOfSeaTreaty - and gasp... cap and trade!!!!??? Because maybe the scientists are in cahoots with the UN and its extortion tactics in the name of climate change?
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