gftChris Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 There's a vote today apparently on the new drug policies, which in turn will dictate whether Josh Gordon (and Wes Welker, post concussion) will be reinstated. Not sure when the results will be known - you'd think if the suspensions are overturned, it would be with immediate effect, so Gordon could train tomorrow. Now, *that* would be an exciting offense, the way we ran the ball, the way Hawkins was making catches, less pressure on Miles Austin to be *the* guy, less pressue on Gabriel to produce immediately. RBs running the way they were, and defense playing like they did in the second half...could be fun times!
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 There's a vote today apparently on the new drug policies, which in turn will dictate whether Josh Gordon (and Wes Welker, post concussion) will be reinstated. Not sure when the results will be known - you'd think if the suspensions are overturned, it would be with immediate effect, so Gordon could train tomorrow. Now, *that* would be an exciting offense, the way we ran the ball, the way Hawkins was making catches, less pressure on Miles Austin to be *the* guy, less pressue on Gabriel to produce immediately. RBs running the way they were, and defense playing like they did in the second half...could be fun times! I'm hoping for this.
nickers Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 We all are.. It would put some meaning back to the season.. And maybe we can move forward and rise above the ashes... so to speak.
gftChris Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Posted September 9, 2014 Legally? Probably not. But then, if they change the law, it means they know it was wrong, and therefore the person shouldn't be penalised. But then, the person breaking the law knew the laws and still broke them (intentionally or otherwise). Either way, that doesn't have much bearing here. The vote's coming soon and nothing we talk about has an impact on the decision, can only use what we're given.
nickers Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times. If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70? Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere...
thenew23 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times. If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70? Go away!
Mudfly Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times. If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70? I'll help you understand......it's not a law, it's a rule....and the NFL is a company, not a court....they can do whatever the hell they want to do.....
gftChris Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Posted September 9, 2014 I'll help you understand......it's not a law, it's a rule....and the NFL is a company, not a court....they can do whatever the hell they want to do..... An ability we all complain about when it doesn't suit us...
djdawg2010 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times. If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70? Well... I'll weigh in on this! Did he break the rules? Sure. But I find the NFL's stance regarding the use of cannabis as well as the Federal goverment's continued war on cannabis to be ridiculous! It's time to end a silly war on a plant, and end prohibition, in which history has shown has been a failure. Furthermore, not all laws or rules are just or moral. I welcome the NFL changing their stance on cannabis, for 1, and for 2, I hope it is enough for Josh Gordon to return to the field. So he smoked a little bud! It's not like he violently assaulted his significant other in an elevator! Which is the worst offense? You do the math!
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times. If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70? You don't understand really?
Mudfly Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Gotta say I HOPE he comes back, but am not getting too hyped up.....I haven't heard the NFL say they were gonna revisit this and, until I do, Im not counting on anything.....Honestly dont know if there is any meat to the rumors or just media speculation.... But, WOW!.....if he comes back....
Sheepdog Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times. If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70? I do understand your point of view and the NFL could very well say that at the time they broke the rules so the suspension stays in effect. I wouldn't be surprised if the new drug testing policy didn't go into effect until the start of the next league year.
thenew23 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 9 PM conference call with player reps. I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.
tiamat63 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 An ability we all complain about when it doesn't suit us... Nobody complained when Haden was handed two games. Now we see that Gordon barely checks in at an outdated NFL threshold on half a test. I'd say there's legitimate cause for conversation.
LondonBrown Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Would be huge news and I'm quietly optimistic for the season already if this happens I may expode.
Vagitron Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere... Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.
Thaak Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot. Lets get this correct. Josh Gordon was placed in Stage 2 before he ever set foot in the NFL. You can deem whether that's fair or not. But lets stop with the hyperbolic falsehoods. He did not fail NFL drug testing 5 times.
Tour2ma Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Is he coming back? Let's see... I have said that Josh Gordon will play this season in every thread even remotely related to the topic. So this time I'll say yes as well... I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! Agree you were last week... glad to see you can move on. AS for the rest... see below... Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot. Josh may be an idiot, but that is not the question. The question here is whether or not he broke league rules this time by smoking pot... - The recently failed test result was at a level that is consistent with second hand smoke. - Josh maintains that he has not smoked, but has been exposed to second hand smoke. - Since his previous positive test he has been tested over 70 times and has passed them all except the test of the "A" split of the "failed" test; the "B" split detected the presence of the metabolite of interest, but at a level below the League's ultra-low "fail" threshold.
thenew23 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 9 PM conference call with player reps. I guess we'll find out more tomorrow. Scratch that... 1:30 PM conference call with player repse to decide whether or not their current proposal is good enough...
TopDawg31 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Getting Gordon back for this week would be so awesome. I wonder if the ban is enough of a wake up call for him to realize he needs to quit smoking til he retires or will he be a moron and try to just stay under the threshold of fail.
TopDawg31 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I read 9 pm on nfl.Com when did it change to 1:30?
gftChris Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Posted September 9, 2014 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
thenew23 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I read 9 pm on nfl.Com when did it change to 1:30? 1:30 PM for a convo between NFLPA and player agents... according to profootballtalk.com I guess 9 PM is for the NFLPA and player reps
JetFan79 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year. Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch. Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!
tiamat63 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year. Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch. Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week! Thank you, friend. Good luck to your squad as well. Hopefully that offense of yours can compliment an impressive front 7 on defense.
djdawg2010 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year. Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch. Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week! Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed!
tiamat63 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed! While I haven't smoked the chron in a long time (mainly because I'm useless once I do) for the most part I agree. I have an immediate family member that is an opiate/heroin addict and its absolutely devastating, to say the least.
JetFan79 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Thank you, friend. Good luck to your squad as well. Hopefully that offense of yours can compliment an impressive front 7 on defense. Don't want to hijack the thread with Jet business, but thanks. Hopefully Geno cleans up the dumb stuff (running into defenders on 2nd down and fumbling inside the 5ydln instead of sliding, and taking 19yd sacks that remove us from FG range). Otherwise our hopes may fall to Vick. Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed! Exactly. Not to mention it'd probably decrease the jail population and costs by 25%.
Tour2ma Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Don't want to hijack the thread... Not like that never happens here... Thanks for the good wishes, but as long as Rexy is your HC, then I cannot return them. Maybe next year...
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