Unsympathetic Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Haden needs to stop fing jumping whatever route he guessed.. and play the man instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Haden needs to stop fing jumping whatever route he guessed.. and play the man instead. He doesn't do that very well either. He was never worth the money they gave him He's an average CB. and he has never been anything more then that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 So why hasn't anyone suggested Lanning covering Brown? I don't care if he runs a 10 minute 40, I know if I got drop kicked in the face, on TV much less, I'd want the chance to take a shot at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Skrine on Brown. All day. Buster's quicks should allow him to stay with Brown better than Haden. Joe, compensating for his lack of quicks, always seems to guess the receiver's route and then tries to beat him to an area and re-direct - only to see that the receiver broke off the route and is now 3 yards away and wide open. However, if Joe guesses right, he blankets the guy and often deflects the pass. Hasn't seemed to be guessing right lately. Thats because haden is much better in zone that man. Pettimes defense is predicated on the corners playing man and thats not working out to well for old joe. I agree- if Haden has a bum hip- let Skrine cover Brown. He's roughly the same size, and just as fast. Him, Miller and Bell are their only real offensive threats. Key to the game- don't let Rotlisberger pull any of his Houdini acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I agree- if Haden has a bum hip- let Skrine cover Brown. He's roughly the same size, and just as fast. Him, Miller and Bell are their only real offensive threats. Key to the game- don't let Rotlisberger pull any of his Houdini acts. Plus blount and Wheaton and DRI archer is back from injury. I expect Wheaton to have a big game honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Plus blount and Wheaton and DRI archer is back from injury. I expect Wheaton to have a big game honestly. Depends how much Big Ben is pressured and contained.. If he can escape then he's always deadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Haden needs to stop fing jumping whatever route he guessed.. and play the man instead. There have been a couple times this season Haden has read the route perfectly (like a former QB should) but either the Dline doesn't get pressure or a QB (namely that fatshit in Pittsburgh) extends the play. Joe had Brown dead to rights on that deep square in week 1. Played it as good as any CB, if the ball is thrown then - its a pick. Fatass then does his warren moon impression, Brown gets away with a slight push off and thats how you have a bomb for 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 First, the abundance of Steeler fan comments is getting old around here. Every damn thread turns into a pissing match. Second, expect to see less man coverage, and more of a zone scheme from our secondary this week. It's not ideal against a QB like Ben, but it's better than going man-on-man with Skrine/Gilbert/Nelson against the Steelers WRs. Third, expect to see us sell out with the pass-rush. Sheard, Kruger, Mingo, A.Bryant, and Martin are going to have to step it up to get pressure on Ben and make him throw it where we want him to. Last, the 4-man front seemed to work in the 2nd half last week to slow down the run, and I'd like to see more of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Just heard on ESPN Radio Krueger wasn't seen on the field today. Overlooked, or something up? That I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Krueger out of practice with Back injury . . . Don't know how severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 A bit of optimism : Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 1h1 hour ago #Browns Gilbert on Haden: "I'm pretty confident he'll be able to play this week as well. I have faith in him to get back on the field.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Fatass then does his warren moon impression, Brown gets away with a slight push off and thats how you have a bomb for 6. What's the Warren Moon impression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 What's the Warren Moon impression? Scrambling...stretching the play....then throwing whilst in the grip...and ultimately scoring a TD, when it should have been a sack for loss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I expect Wheaton to have a big game honestly. As opposed to Wheaton's usual, dishonest approach? First, the abundance of Steeler fan comments is getting old around here. Every damn thread turns into a pissing match. Agree... While I'm not in favor of a total ban it would be nice if we could pen them in a "special" section of the forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 It will be Gilbert, not Nelson, if Joe can't go: Justin Gilbert chosen to start if Joe Haden can't play against Steelers; other injuries hit Browns' defenseOct 10, 2014 -- 3:30pm By Tony Grossi | ESPNCleveland.com Photo/US Presswire Extra Points … Juggling injuries: The Browns’ injury situation heading into Sunday’s critical division game against Pittsburgh is definitely questionable. Cornerback Joe Haden (hip) practiced lightly for the first time all week and was listed as questionable. Outside linebacker Paul Kruger (back) missed practice for the second consecutive day and was listed as questionable. And nose tackle Ahtyba Rubin (ankle) showed up on the list for the first time in the week, was limited at practice and listed as questionable. One certainty: Defensive lineman Billy Winn (quad) was officially ruled out. After practice, coach Mike Pettine remained cautiously optimistic about Haden’s availability and said, for the first time, that rookie Justin Gilbert would start if Haden can’t play. “He got a little bit of work off to the side,” Pettine said of Haden. “He was limited, very limited. That’s a decision we’re going to have to … hopefully, he has a good day tomorrow getting some treatment. We’re hopeful. It’s a game time decision, but we hope he’ll be able to go, obviously.” Gilbert won a competition with undrafted Robert Nelson to be next man up at Haden’s spot. “He came out and did his job,” Pettine said. “He had a great attitude, competed, made some plays. (He) just raised his level of consistency. He still made some mistakes, but I would say it was his best week of practice.” Kruger experienced “an issue with his lower back,” Pettine said, and was given a second day off in a row in hopes of getting him right for Sunday. Kruger has had a good first month of the season. His pressure on the quarterback resulted in both of safety Tashaun Gipson’s interceptions this season. If Kruger can’t play, reserve Eric Martin would receive more reps, Pettine said. “Eric would see more of a role. I think Eric only got two plays against Tennessee, and he had two really good rushes. So, it was already the plan to get him more reps. That’s something that if Krug is limited or can’t go, then he’s going to get those reps anyway,” Pettine said. Early in the week, the Browns planned on being without defensive tackle Phil Taylor (knee scope surgery) and Winn, so they had a full week of practice with John Hughes and Ishmaa’ily Kitchen in specialized roles. If Rubin is ruled out, it’s possible the Browns could promote Jaccobi McDaniel from the practice squad. Pettine said he needs to meet with the trainer for an update on Rubin’s status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Depth is beautiful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 As opposed to Wheaton's usual, dishonest approach? Agree... While I'm not in favor of a total ban it would be nice if we could pen them in a "special" section of the forum... What's with you trying to be "cute" with your replies all of the sudden? Im grammatically correct a majority of the time. I also post a lot from my phone. You made a weak quip about kent state yesterday. Comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Haden upgraded to probable Browns' Haden probable for Sunday's game vs. Steelers Oct 10 2014, 8:54 PMDan Wilkins Despite a hip injury holding him to only one limited practice this week, Cleveland Browns cornerback Joe Haden is listed as probable for Sunday's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Whether or not the injury limits his role in the defense remains to be seen, but the probable designation despite such little practice time is certainly a positive sign. Haden's availability will be key to the Browns' success, as the secondary matches up with a Steelers passing offense that totaled 376 yards in the two teams' first meeting of the year in Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Haden upgraded to probable Browns' Haden probable for Sunday's game vs. Steelers Oct 10 2014, 8:54 PMDan Wilkins Despite a hip injury holding him to only one limited practice this week, Cleveland Browns cornerback Joe Haden is listed as probable for Sunday's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Whether or not the injury limits his role in the defense remains to be seen, but the probable designation despite such little practice time is certainly a positive sign. Haden's availability will be key to the Browns' success, as the secondary matches up with a Steelers passing offense that totaled 376 yards in the two teams' first meeting of the year in Week 1. If he's still not 100% please don't man him up against Brown- he'll get toasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 What's with you trying to be "cute" with your replies all of the sudden? Im grammatically correct a majority of the time. I also post a lot from my phone. You made a weak quip about kent state yesterday. Comical. The Wheaton comment popped into my head. My cuteness is a curse. It will not be contained. And the Kent St. "quip" is a time-tested saying with which I am sure you are familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The Wheaton comment popped into my head. My cuteness is a curse. It will not be contained. And the Kent St. "quip" is a time-tested saying with which I am sure you are familiar. Yea I'm aware. If I could do it all over I wouldn't go to kent again despite loving my program and the friends I made. The reality is at the end of the day where you go for your bachelors is far less important than were you go for your masters etc. "Kent read, can't write, kent state" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Yea I'm aware. If I could do it all over I wouldn't go to kent again despite loving my program and the friends I made. The reality is at the end of the day where you go for your bachelors is far less important than were you go for your masters etc. "Kent read, can't write, kent state" Actually I was thinking of: "If you can't go to college, go to Kent." I was only on campus once. Went to hear Ralph Nader speak in late April of 1970... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I won't dog Kent State about their nursing program. Its top notch, in all reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Haden looking fine in warm ups says Mark Kay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Haden looking fine in warm ups says Mark Kay Haden could be missing a leg, and that dumb blonde wouldn't notice. edit: Just realized I was a bit redundant with 'dumb' and 'blonde'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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