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That last part is what causes the biggest issues - people going to the doctor for the sniffles, or even a broken finger. Playing sports I tend to get a lot of bumps, bruises and breaks; broken finger, broken toe, just yesterday I injured my foot. It might be broken, but I don't think so. Either way, you go to the hospital and get an X-Ray. If it's broken, strap it up until it doesn't hurt. If it's not, strap it up until it doesn't hurt.

 

People going in with tiny complaints are putting too much strain on the NHS.

 

As for the not having a doctor on site, I can't comment. I know that there are always doctors in hospitals here, you just might need to go somewhere 15 miles away instead of 10 to see the specialist in the area you need.

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Well I play guitar for a living so if I break a finger I think I'd like to see a doctor.

I would imagine in London you'd have better access than out in the country. Here I can go to dozens of specialists in under 10 miles and akron is hardly New York City.

 

Still one proposition I have for healthcare for everyone is a system in which the poor are given less convenient care than those who pay. Not substandard care, but longer lines and waiting time similar to the Canadians. But our politicians like to preach populism.

 

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You are blaming Obama for how Obama Care is functioning? Congress mutilated it to hell and back just to get it passed and then spent the last 6 years trying to repeal it. We need a single payer system, its not Obama Care its our broken way of treating people. God forbid we pay a little more on our taxes to ensure people don't need to worry about whether or not they can stay healthy and keep their home. Every other developed country in the world has socialized medicine. Death panels don't exist and long lines for needed procedures don't exist either. Beyond that though I'd happily wait a little bit for a procedure that's free than saddle myself with hundreds, thousands or millions of dollars in medical debt. Go look at our infant mortality rate. Our system is totally broken.

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You are blaming Obama for how Obama Care is functioning? Congress mutilated it to hell and back just to get it passed and then spent the last 6 years trying to repeal it. We need a single payer system, its not Obama Care its our broken way of treating people. God forbid we pay a little more on our taxes to ensure people don't need to worry about whether or not they can stay healthy and keep their home. Every other developed country in the world has socialized medicine. Death panels don't exist and long lines for needed procedures don't exist either. Beyond that though I'd happily wait a little bit for a procedure that's free than saddle myself with hundreds, thousands or millions of dollars in medical debt. Go look at our infant mortality rate. Our system is totally broken.

First of all I don't particularly blame Obama. I don't think he's a tyrant or a dictator or a Nazi or any of that shit but what I think he is is an empty suit. Of course he doesn't have the wits to put together a plan like this. He frankly doesn't have the experience necessary to even mess with it. And he placed political cronies in charge of slapping this piece of shit together. And I have no problem with people paying a few more bucks for healthcare but let that be the deadbeats who get it for free. I've been in favor of the public mandate all along if we must have government health care. I pay a shit load for mine and I think it's the best care available. Head and shoulders above the free stuff the socialist countries get, even though we could probably all live with less.

And I'd be willing to wager that most of those who pushed it through were merely considering it would be the thin end of the wedge to bring socialized medicine to the US.

 

Yes you can blame Congress if you care to but which one?

WS

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I suppose you want to scrap this forum with your ignorant bs?

 

Obamaocare was passed by Congress - totally dominated by dems.

 

Pelosi was speaker of the house, moron. And the rest of your venting

is also bogus.

 

A lot like you being a steeler bandwagon fan who never sees the steelers

cheapshotting.

 

boring. It's been done before, you aren't the first nutjob.

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First of all I don't particularly blame Obama. I don't think he's a tyrant or a dictator or a Nazi or any of that shit but what I think he is is an empty suit. Of course he doesn't have the wits to put together a plan like this. He frankly doesn't have the experience necessary to even mess with it. And he placed political cronies in charge of slapping this piece of shit together. And I have no problem with people paying a few more bucks for healthcare but let that be the deadbeats who get it for free. I've been in favor of the public mandate all along if we must have government health care. I pay a shit load for mine and I think it's the best care available. Head and shoulders above the free stuff the socialist countries get, even though we could probably all live with less.

And I'd be willing to wager that most of those who pushed it through were merely considering it would be the thin end of the wedge to bring socialized medicine to the US.

 

Yes you can blame Congress if you care to but which one?

WS

We need socialized medicine and your comments about cronies is exactly what any other president would have to do unless they were an expert in that field before being elected. Your point in that regard is very moot. The united states needs and deserves socialized medicine. We have some of the best doctors and best researchers but they are all improperly used because of our severely broken system. Its not Obama, its not Obama care. Its our system and the cronies involved fleecing their pockets with hundred dollar bills. Fix it medicine not preventative and it can't be preventative because people can't afford to go to the doctor that often. Its an enormous problem.

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I suppose you want to scrap this forum with your ignorant bs?

 

Obamaocare was passed by Congress - totally dominated by dems.

 

Pelosi was speaker of the house, moron. And the rest of your venting

is also bogus.

 

A lot like you being a steeler bandwagon fan who never sees the steelers

cheapshotting.

 

boring. It's been done before, you aren't the first nutjob.

Cal you aren't smart. You regurgitate without a single original thought of your own. Fox news is pumping out a new drone just like you each day they remain on the air. You're a damn robot.
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Steve is partially correct - obamao is an empty suit - some other folks

are pulling his strings like a puppet. How else can anybody explain

his flip flops, lies and reversals?

 

I already posted him declaring that he doesn't have the Constitutional authority

to do what he just did.

 

But, he turns around, and does it anyways, when he refused to do it the first two years

with total control of the Congress - they worried about the midterms, I guess.

 

Everything this empty suit is doing, is solely with regard to the political power

of the hidden group he is a puppet for.

 

Odd, nobody is laughing about the claim that he is a loser anymore. He is. And this

is his last hurrah to change the demographics, and law/law enforcement...to that

leftist political end.

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vag, you don't know squat. You're just here to raise hell, like on the

Browns forum.

 

Got yer ass handed to you over there a bit too much, so you came here, I suppose.

 

You are full of crap. Go hump Alan Colmes or Bob Beckel's leg - you sound like

you are entralled with their crap.

 

And stop with the personal hate - it's also very, very worn out from others

who have brought it. You are just boring.

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Everybody can afford to go to the doctor. Everybody. If you are destitute there are all sorts of programs not the least of which Medicaid. I also have no problem with the sliding scale but everyone should pay something.

I'd say that nearly every single person that says they can't afford healthcare miraculously can afford plenty of shit that's more fun.

WSS

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Everybody can afford to go to the doctor. Everybody. If you are destitute there are all sorts of programs not the least of which Medicaid. I also have no problem with the sliding scale but everyone should pay something.

I'd say that nearly every single person that says they can't afford healthcare miraculously can afford plenty of shit that's more fun.

WSS

Is that right? Soo god forbid someone gets cancer but are uninsured. They are going to get treated without paying a dime? What about the Canadian woman recently that got hit with a million dollar medical bill for having her child in the states prematurely. No I don't believe we should be paying anything close to what we are paying and unless the more fun things are corvettes you are wrong there too.
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vag, you don't know squat. You're just here to raise hell, like on the

Browns forum.

 

Got yer ass handed to you over there a bit too much, so you came here, I suppose.

 

You are full of crap. Go hump Alan Colmes or Bob Beckel's leg - you sound like

you are entralled with their crap.

 

And stop with the personal hate - it's also very, very worn out from others

who have brought it. You are just boring.

I'm giving the browns board a "break" because they deserve it. I don't troll over there but they don't need me posting all the time when there is reason to enjoy the browns now. The steelers also aren't being discussed. As far as my expertise, I have my bachelors degree in political science, have held political office before I chose to not run again and vacated my seat. I grew up in politics. I'm willing to wager I'm infintiely more qualified to talk about all of this than you. If I'm mistaken and you have experience I'm not aware of please correct me. Until then you are a fvcking myna bird. Listen and repeat. No original thought.
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blah blah blah.

 

You come off like a 9 th moron. Like woodypeckerhead does.

 

We have differening opinions around here - it's what we do.

 

You admit you have an agenda to screw around with stuff online.

 

big, boring ignorant freakin deal. Have a nice day, perhaps it is

all you have in life.

 

PS - You were catching hell on the Browns forum, for good reason.

 

It's what you do, apparently who you are, that stinks. If you weren't so

belligerent, I'd take the time to feel sorry for ya.

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blah blah blah.

 

You come off like a 9 th moron. Like woodypeckerhead does.

 

We have differening opinions around here - it's what we do.

 

You admit you have an agenda to screw around with stuff online.

 

big, boring ignorant freakin deal. Have a nice day, perhaps it is

all you have in life.

 

PS - You were catching hell on the Browns forum, for good reason.

 

It's what you do, apparently who you are, that stinks. If you weren't so

belligerent, I'd take the time to feel sorry for ya.

I catch hell over there because I defend my home team. You don't like me in here because I'm not drinking your David koresh kool aid. I'm not here to troll. I'm here to bring some balance to a clearly fvxked up message board.

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You are woodypeckerhead ll

 

new and improved in being outrageously a dipstick.

 

All you have is personal antagonism, and changing subjects.

 

boring. Been done before.

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You are woodypeckerhead ll

 

new and improved in being outrageously a dipstick.

 

All you have is personal antagonism, and changing subjects.

 

boring. Been done before.

I'm not changing subjects cal. Follow along.

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Is that right? Soo god forbid someone gets cancer but are uninsured. They are going to get treated without paying a dime? What about the Canadian woman recently that got hit with a million dollar medical bill for having her child in the states prematurely. No I don't believe we should be paying anything close to what we are paying and unless the more fun things are corvettes you are wrong there too.

Did you just asked what about the person that gets cancer but refused to buy health insurance?

That should be pretty clear to you. Again everyone should pay something. I'll give you an example. Do you think Medicaid recipients should be required to pay anything for it if they can afford to smoke cigarettes? Let's say a couple packs a day that's probably 300 or 350 a month. Are you good with picking up the tab for their health care?

 

WSS

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"yawn"

 

"I'm giving the browns board a "break" because they deserve it. I don't troll over there but they don't need me posting all the time when there is reason to enjoy the browns now. The steelers also aren't being discussed. As far as my expertise, I have my bachelors degree in political science, have held political office before I chose to not run again and vacated my seat. I grew up in politics. I'm willing to wager I'm infintiely more qualified to talk about all of this than you. If I'm mistaken and you have experience I'm not aware of please correct me. Until then you are a fvcking myna bird. Listen and repeat. No original thought. " woodypeckerhead ll

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I'm giving the browns board a "break" because they deserve it. I don't troll over there but they don't need me posting all the time when there is reason to enjoy the browns now. The steelers also aren't being discussed. As far as my expertise, I have my bachelors degree in political science, have held political office before I chose to not run again and vacated my seat. I grew up in politics. I'm willing to wager I'm infintiely more qualified to talk about all of this than you. If I'm mistaken and you have experience I'm not aware of please correct me. Until then you are a fvcking myna bird. Listen and repeat. No original thought.

I'm sorry to hear about your father, but you come across as a real asshole, both here and on the Browns side.

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PS I could easily be driving a Corvette for the money I spend on health insurance. But it's a valuable service and it should cost something.

 

WSS

Why should it cost something? It doesn't cost something in other countries and my dad just passed from cancer. He had good insurance and my mom before he was diagnosed signed up on a whim for cancer specific insurance because it was being offered at a discounted rate and she figured why not. If not for that added rider she may not have a house because cancer drugs are outrageous. All of this is with very good insurance before the added rider. We should not have to pay for health insurance outside of paying more on our taxes to cover a free system. We are the only developed country without a socialzed system.
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I'm sorry to hear about your father, but you come across as a real asshole, both here and on the Browns side.

Thank you. I provide a dissenting opinion here as a rival fan and a liberal. If I weren't striking a cord you wouldn't think I was an asshole.

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Quick question vag, are you from Ohio?

WSS

 

Born and raised in western pa. I live in delaware, Ohio currently and I am a citizen of Ohio. I just switched from my pa license to Ohio in September when my pa license expired.

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