RoyceRolls Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Any chance we would be in for Suh if Lions decide not to re-sign him? If the Lions don't resign him, it will be because he's asking for far too much money. Suh is good, but overpaying for players never works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 BPA. Otherwise I'd prioritize OLB, DL, ILB, TE, ROG in that order Our D-Line was supposed to be our strength, and its ended up being our weakness and our Outside Linebackers seem to have no concept of edge containment. I could not disagree more on your assessment of our OLB'ers edge containment. Well at least not from Sheard and Kruger. At the beginning of the season those guys setup military checkpoints they were bossing the edge so hard. Seriously everything ran inside. EVERYTHING. About 6 games in when our staff realized that, for whatever reason ( my suspicion is our ILB'ers suck), we couldn't stop the run and asked the OLB'ers to pinch in and help. Well when that happens eventually someone's gonna bounce it. Not that I wouldn't mind seeing another good OLB'er come to Cleveland...like maybe getting Houston in FA, but to prioritize it in the draft is absurd unless there's another Clowney or Mack in the draft. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'd say trade down, gather even more picks and then take the PBA all the way through. We are a very good young team, we need to keep building, that's what's going to make us great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Except that the runner had already made like a 10 yard gain on the play. It would have been more impressive if made at the line of scrimmage. His depth on that play was part of the call, that's where he was supposed to be you can tell. As form as that tackle was it's not his best hit, it just looked flashy. He makes "plenty" of tackles at the line of scrimmage or behind. He's a pure form tackler. He's got better fundamentals right now than a lot of NFL players, including some on the Browns. He's a beast. Yes I would love to see him in a Browns Uni. My dream draft would be for him and Bosa to drop to the mid 1st round where it's likely our two picks will be....unfortunately we may have other higher priorities than Bosa but I really do hope we take a hard look at getting a stud ILB'er in the draft. If it's Perryman than I'm fine with that. Dude runs a high 4.4 I think, and is built like a brick shithouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 They actually had him playing a lot of 4-3 OLB and he still looked pretty good. Probably a guy we could play at any of the LB'er spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'd say trade down, gather even more picks and then take the PBA all the way through. We are a very good young team, we need to keep building, that's what's going to make us great. No more trading down. I'm sick of passing on the Watt's, Mack's, Jones, Watkins, Mathews, for the Gilberts, Taylors, and Weedens of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Just as an fyi, If the draft was today, we'd be picking at 15(Buff) & 23(Browns)... And Im still expecting Buff to slide and finish close to .500. So, by the time it's all said and done, Ill be planning on a late 20's pick and a mid teens pick I can see why you might think that Buff will slide. Stand at 5-4 now with these games remaining... 11 Nov 13 8:25PMEST , AT Dolphins 12 Nov 23 1:00PMEST * Jets 13 Nov 30 1:00PMEST * Browns 14 Dec 7 4:05PMEST * AT Broncos 15 Dec 14 1:00PMEST ) Packers 16 Dec 21 4:25PMEST * AT Raiders 17 Dec 28 1:00PMEST * AT Patriots Should beat Jets and Raiders. Pats might not have anything at stake in season finale. So only need one win out of the Fins, us, DNV and GB to finish 2 games over... This Sunday at MIA should be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I can see why you might think that Buff will slide. Stand at 5-4 now with these games remaining... 11 Nov 13 8:25PMEST , AT Dolphins 12 Nov 23 1:00PMEST * Jets 13 Nov 30 1:00PMEST * Browns 14 Dec 7 4:05PMEST * AT Broncos 15 Dec 14 1:00PMEST ) Packers 16 Dec 21 4:25PMEST * AT Raiders 17 Dec 28 1:00PMEST * AT Patriots Should beat Jets and Raiders. Pats might not have anything at stake in season finale. So only need one win out of the Fins, us, DNV and GB to finish 2 games over... This Sunday at MIA should be interesting... Yep. I only have them winning 2 or 3 more. So, hoping for 7-9 or 8-8. Should be a great game with Mia.....goooo fins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 This Sunday at MIA should be interesting... that's tonite on NFL network and it will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 that's tonite on NFL network and it will be very interesting. lol... bad enough that I've seen the promo for the game a dozen times, but I posted the damn schedule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Meanwhile back at the thread... seems like we might want to nab a FB sometime on Day 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 His depth on that play was part of the call, that's where he was supposed to be you can tell. As form as that tackle was it's not his best hit, it just looked flashy. He makes "plenty" of tackles at the line of scrimmage or behind. He's a pure form tackler. He's got better fundamentals right now than a lot of NFL players, including some on the Browns. He's a beast. Yes I would love to see him in a Browns Uni. My dream draft would be for him and Bosa to drop to the mid 1st round where it's likely our two picks will be....unfortunately we may have other higher priorities than Bosa but I really do hope we take a hard look at getting a stud ILB'er in the draft. If it's Perryman than I'm fine with that. Dude runs a high 4.4 I think, and is built like a brick shithouse. That would be sweet to have both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Bosa isn't eligible until 2016, sorry. That guy would likely be the top pick in the draft with Oakland selecting first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I just want an enforcer in the middle, here are the top 10 hits of Denzel Perryman's career. He's projected as a late 1st rounder to early 2nd rounder and is a complete run stuffer/play maker. He's Chris Borland but way better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NZbhgf33sg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 He seems to have a nose for the ball at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Bosa isn't eligible until 2016, sorry. That guy would likely be the top pick in the draft with Oakland selecting first. Yea, right, forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepdog Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 A couple of names that I keep on seeing in mock drafts is Kevin White, WR from West Virginia and Devin Fuchess, TE from Michigan. Honestly I only see us going after one of them if we don't resign Cameron in the off-season in which case I see us going for Fuchess. I predict DL as the other 1st round pick for us depending on if Sheard stays or goes. Probably goes since it seems like he hasn't played much this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Baddest fucking linebacker in football So at least we know this guy is gonna bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 So at least we know this guy is gonna bust. I'm not sure what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Too early to speculate on underclassmen and no way we spend a first on a WR or a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if we go defense with our first rounders. We still need a stud linebacker and DL may be a position of need depending on who we resign. OL and DB depth and a TE or WR in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 our D backfield is one of our strengths now with plenty of depth. both lines need some additions (can't let one player's injury downgrade the whole shebang). LB for sure and yes a WR even though the mix match bag of guys farmer put together have done admirably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 No more trading down. I'm sick of passing on the Watt's, Mack's, Jones, Watkins, Mathews, for the Gilberts, Taylors, and Weedens of the world lols, I agree. If both our picks are low picks though than I'm not against trading down OR trading both picks for something higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I just want an enforcer in the middle, here are the top 10 hits of Denzel Perryman's career. He's projected as a late 1st rounder to early 2nd rounder and is a complete run stuffer/play maker. He's Chris Borland but way better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NZbhgf33sg Borland is beasting for the 9'ers...dude just had like what, 20 tackles in one game? I wanted Clev to take either him or Bullough...I think either one of those guys would have been a better compliment to Dansby. Both went 2nd round too. I think Borland was a sleeper hit for the 9'ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Both went 2nd round too. I think Borland was a sleeper hit for the 9'ers Borland was selected in the 3rd round (pick 77) Bullough went undrafted. Regardless, our defense needs an enforcer and Perryman can be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broganreynik Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Hell, package picks and move up to get Randy Gregory. The way he's moved around in the Nebraska defense would be perfect for Pettine to utilize. I'm drooling just thinking about him lighting up Flacco, Ginger, and Rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Hell, package picks and move up to get Randy Gregory. The way he's moved around in the Nebraska defense would be perfect for Pettine to utilize. I'm drooling just thinking about him lighting up Flacco, Ginger, and Rapist. Calm down - you don't even know if Dalton will still be there next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Calm down - you don't even know if Dalton will still be there next season And for all we know big Ben could wreck his motorcycle again in the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepdog Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 What LB position does Perryman play? I Googled him and everything just said LB, no mention of ILB or OLB, I'm guessing he is ILB though. With the way that Dansby and Kirksey have played so far this year I don't think we would spend a 1st rounder on an ILB. I see DL as one of the picks and RT as another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 What LB position does Perryman play? I Googled him and everything just said LB, no mention of ILB or OLB, I'm guessing he is ILB though. With the way that Dansby and Kirksey have played so far this year I don't think we would spend a 1st rounder on an ILB. I see DL as one of the picks and RT as another. I'm inclined to agree. Dansby's playing well, and Kirksey has looked good while also forcing robertson to step up. Both should only be better next year. I can see Farmer/Pettine being 'build from the lines' guys, especially with the QB situation under control, and CBs sorted for the next year (assuming they give Gilbert that time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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