The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 So I'm specifically interested in logic's opinion knowing what I know of him. I'm I'm the market for a 9mm handgun and I'm not really looking to drop $600 on it this close to the holidays. So are you or I'd anyone familiar with the hi-point c9? Hi point is a local firearm manufacturer and this weapon can be purchased for under $200 almost all reviews have been generally favorable but not necessarily glowing. I'm taking a ccw certification class on December 26th so I'm looking to purchase this in short order to get some range time in beforehand. Just trying to see if anyone has any personal experience with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 The hi-point is a low budget firearm. We looked at them, but bought our SCCY (american made) CTX-1, 9mm for $283. They have a CTX-2 out, with minor differences. The CTX-1 is a nice gun, well thought of in reviews, but the sights are pinned in, apparently not that easily replaced by night sights or something, If your new gun is something your Wife would also be interested in shooting, Walther carries a few of the easiest slide operation guns around. Logic knows a lot - and your local ccw instructor, ask around for a real good one - could give you some great advice. Take care when listening to gun store clerks, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I know it's low budget. I already have a Ruger Sr40c at home in case my wife needs it. She's not terribly comfortable with guns though and so it's unlikely she would unless pressed. This is primarily to be a carry firearm for when business takes me to the rougher areas of town. I'm not trying to spend $400 or $600 on it. All I want is for it to be reliable and functional. I'll look at the sccy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I don't like the look of the sccy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Hi points in my experience are a lot more reliable than given credit for. They are also ungainly and not ergomomic. For not much more money you can get the Tangfolia Witness, a Italian version of the CZ75. For me they are a double stack auto that handles almost like the 1911. The high point may also be a bit bulky for concealed carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I will look into that as well. I am a bulky guy in general at 6'3 and over 260 so the size of the hi-point may not be a real issue. Again I'm not carrying it often but if you get called to king Kennedy north at 12:00 am it's best to be safe than sorry. If, god forbid, you ever HAVE to use it I don't want to lose a weapon I paid $500 for like the ruger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I've heard you don't want to carry a high point with a round in the chamber which worries me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Do not buy a Hi-Point....I repeat, do not buy a Hi-Point.Too many bad experiences having to hold classes up to clear them for people who don't know what they are doing. It made the classes suck for everyone else. I wouldn't be too concerned with losing a firearm in the event of justifiably shooting someone. If you aren't pulling a Rambo, they will return your firearm within a few weeks at the latest. That said, if you want to stay below $400 I recommend either police trade ins (shot very little) Glocks and Sigs or a new Canik pistol. They are generally in the $325-$400 range. I have a Canik Stingray (CZ clone) that I have been beating up with still no jams and it was new for $340. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I've heard really mixed reviews on the c9. You have a sector of people that complain about ftfs or jamming and a sector that swears they are as reliable as any gun shot. Most video reviews seem to support the hi point working well out of the box. In any case I'd be taking the course with the ruger which I'm quite comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I've heard really mixed reviews on the c9. You have a sector of people that complain about ftfs or jamming and a sector that swears they are as reliable as any gun shot. Most video reviews seem to support the hi point working well out of the box. In any case I'd be taking the course with the ruger which I'm quite comfortable with. I don't like gambling on whether or not something is a decent product if I am going to rely on it in a tight spot. I would just carry the Ruger if it hasn't given you any trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Are people limp wristing it in your class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I only ask because I wonder why the reviews are so mixed. Either they're crap or they're a great buy. No in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Are people limp wristing it in your class? Nah I teach them proper grip so as not to limp wrist. Even a Glock will jam if you limp wrist it. They have all been mechanical failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 If you are carrying a weapon, I would carry the best and most reliable. You are carrying it in case you need it to save your life correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I'll probably end up carrying the ruger but now I'm intrigued and may buy the hi point anyway just to plink cans and apples out back. For a buck fifty if it really sucks that bad I'm not really out anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 I want to see how the blowback action shoots. Plus it's a nine and the ruger is a .40 so the ammo is cheaper to just shoot around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 For shooting pie plates, it should be fine. Me personally, I would buy something else for goofing and shooting 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Dog Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 You will shoot your eye out. Maybe we should start you out with a pop gun. You know the kind that has a cork and a string tied to the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 You will shoot your eye out. Maybe we should start you out with a pop gun. You know the kind that has a cork and a string tied to the end of it. You're still allowed to use teh internets bunker? At first I thought walter was another alter ego but he shows up in the tavern to actually talk about football once in a while so I know he's not you. The fact that anyone would sign off on you having any sort of firearm is disturbing to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Geez, I own a Beretta 7 shot Bobcat 22 because I thought the wife would like it in her shop and not be afraid of it.. Yeah, she's afraid of it so we armed her with hornet spray instead... But that's the ONLY reason I bought the damn thing.. I'm 6"4 or 5" 317 so I can palm that gun easily and no one knows I have it.. Damn good thing too, because if I showed it they probably laugh at me I know this doesn't really apply to the thread except for laughs.. And trust me, I'd probably rather sling cat shit out of the litter box as a last line of defense rather than use the bobcat (that I have to clean every damn bullet or it will jam) but in the case that some one googles a Beretta Bobcat 7 shot 6 yrs from now and sees this....then my job is done Oh, and I own much better guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yeah i really would like to have something like this but at the holidays it's a bit cost prohibitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 This is what I have. It is a Browning hi-power 9mm. IMO one of the best handguns EVER made. But they are pricey. The value has increased every year though Mine was made in 1982 and I bought it in 1992 and it was never fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=2-444029ULT&index=3&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=All&type=Revolver&cal=44M&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 This is what I currently have but it's a .40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 The Bobcats are awful haha. Luckily my wife took to guns so she isn't afraid. She only gets recoil shy with 30-06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I like Hi Powers but they definitely put a hurting on your wallet. Diehard pointed you in the right direction. You can get a Taurus revolver on the cheap and their revolvers are good quality. Charter Arms also has some nice revolvers that you can get on a budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 If $839.00 is your idea of cheap you're probably doing pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21_50_494/page/1/sort/6a They have a revolver for under $300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I would never pay anywhere near $800 bucks for a Taurus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I would never pay anywhere near $800 bucks for a Taurus. Taurus makes an excellent revolver. And that particular model you would never fire. If you pulled it out the other guy would shit himself and pass out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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