Tour2ma Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's called game rewind my friend. Then educate us... What coverages did he have issues with? Which did he tear up? What percentage of the time did they play each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePantyWaste Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Then educate us... What coverages did he have issues with? Which did he tear up? What percentage of the time did they play each? I will work something together if you want, though to expect me to have all of this off hand is asking me a lot. I enjoy unpacking film study. I'll break it down and we'll see if I'm right. I'll cite specific plays and links with clips or pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I will work something together if you want, though to expect me to have all of this off hand is asking me a lot. I enjoy unpacking film study. I'll break it down and we'll see if I'm right. I'll cite specific plays and links with clips or pictures. are you Ron Jawarski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePantyWaste Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 are you Ron Jawarski Ah, my cover is blown No, I don't think Kaperclit is the best qb ever...Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I will work something together if you want, though to expect me to have all of this off hand is asking me a lot. I enjoy unpacking film study. I'll break it down and we'll see if I'm right. I'll cite specific plays and links with clips or pictures. If you really did this it would be quite cool. If you can square off as well as Tour there might be some serious understanding when its all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 It seems Brian Hoyer has also had the benefit of a lot of luck. Maybe I'm just noticing it more but doesn't it seem to you guys the announcers are saying "that should have been picked off" pretty often? Seems like defenders are mysteriously missing or dropping the bad passes? WSS The Hoyer pick in today's game hit the WR in the chest then bounced off of his knee. I would call that one bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 i would trade hoyer right now and start manziel next week. with the kid coming in the browns are GUARANTEED to win out and go to the super bowl. vegas would put the browns as the favorites the next day. instead of throwing 50 times today because they couldn't run the ball we can have JF scramble 50 times. CAN'T WAIT!! fucking dickheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I will work something together if you want, though to expect me to have all of this off hand is asking me a lot. I enjoy unpacking film study. I'll break it down and we'll see if I'm right. I'll cite specific plays and links with clips or pictures. Cool... Admit it... you needed something to do during your bye week anyway. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePantyWaste Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 i would trade hoyer right now and start manziel next week. with the kid coming in the browns are GUARANTEED to win out and go to the super bowl. vegas would put the browns as the favorites the next day. instead of throwing 50 times today because they couldn't run the ball we can have JF scramble 50 times. CAN'T WAIT!! fucking dickheads. How much have you been drinking? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePantyWaste Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Cool... Admit it... you needed something to do during your bye week anyway. You're welcome. Lol yeah, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 How much have you been drinking? Lol That is not to be questioned. You got work to do and it's been a rough day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 How much have you been drinking? Lol believe it or not i just started, so watch out suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePantyWaste Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 believe it or not i just started, so watch out suckers. Lol you're alright milk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePantyWaste Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 That is not to be questioned. You got work to do and it's been a rough day. I feel ya. We lost to Bungles and Squeelers back to back and looked meh against the titans. Then you guys lost and Bengals won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 this loss like the JAX loss brought us all back down to earth if nothing else. after watching a game like this as afan, how could you ever question again the importance of having a strong OL and DL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePantyWaste Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 this loss like the JAX loss brought us all back down to earth if nothing else. after watching a game like this as afan, how could you ever question again the importance of having a strong OL and DL? It's all won in the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 this loss like the JAX loss brought us all back down to earth if nothing else. after watching a game like this as afan, how could you ever question again the importance of having a strong OL and DL? I was lucky enough to have missed the Jags game, and refused to watch even a single play on my DVR once I heard the score........... I wasn't so lucky today. They are a young team, with young coaches and multiple injuries / suspensions that are keeping several core starters out on both sides of the ball. They are 6-4 and right in the thick of the playoff / division race, and they get back one of their best players tomorrow morning. From where I sit, things look pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I was lucky enough to have missed the Jags game, and refused to watch even a single play on my DVR once I heard the score........... I wasn't so lucky today. They are a young team, with young coaches and multiple injuries / suspensions that are keeping several core starters out on both sides of the ball. They are 6-4 and right in the thick of the playoff / division race, and they get back one of their best players tomorrow morning. From where I sit, things look pretty good. hey, i'm not bitching about our record. it's just too bad we play down to the supposed 'lesser' teams and play really good against the 'better' teams. things are looking better than they have in years. imagine how good they'd be if we had REAL depth at all positions along both lines. stopping the run has been a problem all year and taylor comes back and people think he really didn't add much. he goes out again and the browns couldn't stop an old lady crossing the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 This is another AFC loss The first tie breaker in wild card standings is conference record, is it not? Jax loss and this loss are going to hurt us. The Browns will need to win the division for any chance at the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 hey, i'm not bitching about our record. it's just too bad we play down to the supposed 'lesser' teams and play really good against the 'better' teams. things are looking better than they have in years. imagine how good they'd be if we had REAL depth at all positions along both lines. stopping the run has been a problem all year and taylor comes back and people think he really didn't add much. he goes out again and the browns couldn't stop an old lady crossing the street. Totally agree mik. We seem to match the opponent on the field, and it's maddening. Hopefully we address both lines in the draft and FA, because right now, we get bullied on both sides of the ball, and the LOS always seems to get pushed onto our side of the field. Still, at the start of the season if you would've told me we would be 6-4 after 10 games, I would've jumped all over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 The Hoyer pick in today's game hit the WR in the chest then bounced off of his knee. I would call that one bad luck. Yeah not that one, Mike. I just point out he's gotten lucky an awful lot of times with potential interceptions being dropped or missed. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Amended... but might be even simpler to say "under duress". That doesn't make it better for him. Duress happens. I am down with him having this entire season to start. He has done some wonderful things. But he is going to have to improve that aspect if he wants to continue to be an NFL starter going forward. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 So who now believes Hoyer deserves that big contract?? Big mistake if they write him a big contract. I would offer him a fair contract, like 4 years 32 mill. I would offer him back up money. Ok, good, great? Franchise QB, starter, back up? good value, retail price, over pay? All questions Farmer has to answer. While it's obvious BH isnt Peyton Manning, it's also obvious he's good enough to start and play for someone. So, the debate is really not how good Hoyer is, but how much are you willing to pay him? Bottom line is that SOMEONE will pay him. It's too hard to find competent QB's in this league and lots of teams are desperate to find one. Someone will pay a lot to try him out. History has proven this over and over again. Personally, I dont think he'll stay if he needs a guarantee to start or wants top 10 type of money. The browns wont make that promise, but someone else will. I see Farmer as a "value" guy, who's eye is on the payroll as much as the talent. It has to be a good value, with balance, or he'll pass. I think he see's Hoyer as a good value today, but not so much at "franchise QB" dollars or if he has to dump JFF to appease Hoyer. JFF is the wildcard he's holding. And none of us have seen it yet. Wonder when he plays THAT one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Season isn't over yet, we're still in the thick of it. Let these guys try and figure it out against ATL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 That doesn't make it better for him. Duress happens. I am down with him having this entire season to start. He has done some wonderful things. But he is going to have to improve that aspect if he wants to continue to be an NFL starter going forward. Yup... duress happens... and no QB is immune to real duress, as Tom Terrific showed us in the first half of the SNF game. The issue is BH letting perceived duress impact him... often even more than the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 So which of the other teams in the league would trade their starter for Brian Hoyer today? Straight up trade. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 So which of the other teams in the league would trade their starter for Brian Hoyer today? Straight up trade. WSS Buffalo Cinci?! Jets St Louis maybe, if you're counting Austin not Bradford Titans Probably a few more I can't think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 So which of the other teams in the league would trade their starter for Brian Hoyer today? Straight up trade. WSS today? none. the question makes no sense. you'd have to take in consideration that he'd be a brand new guy , most likely in a new system with new players he'd have to become familiar with. that's why you never see trades like that happen. when in the history of the nfl has one team traded their starter for another's with 6 games left in the year? let me know if it's happened because i'd find it highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 And they wont have to trade their starter since Hoyer is a FA. So, add a few more to the list that can afford him, while still keeping their plan B guy. Edit: The trade deadline has passed. Aint no trades happening anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Buffalo Cinci?! Jets St Louis maybe, if you're counting Austin not Bradford Titans Probably a few more I can't think of. ok yeah. hypothetically, a team with a real lousy QB would love to have brian hoyer over some of the bums out there. i thought the trade would be more of a straight level trade where someone wasn't getting hosed by the deal. i'd put minnesota and washington on that list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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