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I'll have to wait for the lawsuit to play out and hear details on this before I make any judgement.

On the face of it, however, after seeing the shirt I'm not sure why the teacher was upset. Perhaps

because it has a picture of a firearm? It would be a lot different if it were a picture of a rifle

with the caption "Kill the Muslims".

 

Based on where it happened, I'm guessing it was a case of an overreaction by a couple of teachers

that snowballed into the BOE getting involved. If you think that Logan County, WV is a hotbed of

arrogant leftists I would suggest you take a trip to Logan or Chapmanville. I live in north central WV and

most people here regard going to Logan County like going to Mississippi. Seriously, when anyone says they

have to go to Logan County, for whatever reason, the reaction is "Holy shit man, what did you do to

deserve that?

 

On a broader scale, WV is--and has been a Republican state for many years. Everyone is registered

Democrat in order to vote in the primaries. But the values are strictly Republican. Billionaire Jim Justice

recently announced he will run for governor and, where I work the comments aren't "what is he going to

do about the crumbling roads and bridges, what is he going to do about the dependency on the coal

industry" but "what are his views on abortion and gay marriage"?

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I'll have to wait for the lawsuit to play out and hear details on this before I make any judgement.

On the face of it, however, after seeing the shirt I'm not sure why the teacher was upset. Perhaps

because it has a picture of a firearm?

That'd be it.

A kid can't even draw a picture of one, nor can he form his hand/fingers into one. That would call for a suspension and or a psychological evaluation.

 

Liberalism is a mental illness. Liberals are the ones in need of a psychological evaluation.

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My cousin grew up in WV, still there - in Beckley. We vacationed there for years

when I was kid. I know a good bit about it.

 

But those school officials were acting out on liberal offense at anything conservative -

and guns are their favorite battle to fight. And calling the police over a tshirt?

Stupid, dishonest, and looking to make a liberal splash.

 

Liberal bigotry is self-serving in one fashion or another - and it happens in

pretty much any state, even Texas - and no, I never did get the idea

that WV is a liberal state.

 

I hope the family wins big - this kid could have been me in my school days.

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The left and the liberal media have demonized the NRA but it wasn't always that way. Years ago the NRA would come into the public schools and teach gun safety classes.

 

I have always thought one of the dumbest signs ever to be placed at a school or business is the Gun Free Zone sign. Do they really think some evil person bent on killing is going to be swayed by that sign on the door? I think that sign would only encourage them knowing there is going to be no armed person to stop them.

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I read where not one nutjob has shot people at gun shows.

There have been stupidass accidents, mind you, and that is

inexcusable, but no intentional shootings at gun shows?

 

Schools and a theater for the most part? Or ghetto streets.

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This whole situation is just a bit stupid. At most, maybe the school has a 'no political agenda' thing on the dress code, at which point they can maybe ask him to change. Arresting him? That's fucking stupid. Charging him is even more stupid.

 

Then, you have the half a million dollar law suit?! Seriously, an apology should be sufficient, with probably some 'sensitivity training' to reinforce what the guidelines say and how to handle it. But not when there's money to be had I guess.

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Of of course that type of rubbish has been going on forever. High school kids are still just kids and like to do things to push the envelope. Teachers and administrators like to push back in the form of dress codes haircut regulations etc. We old guys remember being threatened with expulsion if our hair was over our ear or color. Just a power trip.

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Of of course that type of rubbish has been going on forever. High school kids are still just kids and like to do things to push the envelope. Teachers and administrators like to push back in the form of dress codes haircut regulations etc. We old guys remember being threatened with expulsion if our hair was over our ear or color. Just a power trip.

WSS

Pretty much, yeah. As I said, asking the kid to change his top is one thing - but when and why did the cops get involved?

 

And now, instead of having it out with the school, the parents are suing, because America.

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I know this area well. It was related to the dress code and not liking the little shitbird who was wearing it. This has zero to do with some anti-gun agenda. The whole damn county shuts down when deer season starts. My buddy was subbing in Logan when it all happened. It had way more to do with disliking the turd wearing the shirt than the actual shirt.

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sounds like discretionary prosecution - a mainstay

of liberals all the way up to the clintons and Buttock and moochelle ObaMao.

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My cousin grew up in WV, still there - in Beckley. We vacationed there for years

when I was kid. I know a good bit about it.

 

But those school officials were acting out on liberal offense at anything conservative -

and guns are their favorite battle to fight. And calling the police over a tshirt?

Stupid, dishonest, and looking to make a liberal splash.

 

Liberal bigotry is self-serving in one fashion or another - and it happens in

pretty much any state, even Texas - and no, I never did get the idea

that WV is a liberal state.

 

I hope the family wins big - this kid could have been me in my school days.

 

 

I recently drove through Beckley for the first time in many, many years and was amazed at how it has grown.

However--and I'm not being snarky or flippant---Beckley ain't Logan County. My parents are from WV but moved

to Cleveland in the mid 50's. I was born and raised in Cleveland but we moved to WV in 1976 when I was 15.

Ever since I can remember Logan County has been...unique. I don't know if it's something in the water or what, but

civil discourse in Logan County goes something like this:

 

"I hate Hillary Clinton."

"Oh, I dunno, she has some qualities that I like".

"Fuck you asshole, I'll kick your fucking ass!!"

 

If I'm exaggerating, it isn't by very much. A quick anecdote: In 2003 the Sago Mine disaster occurred about 30 miles

from where I sit. A memorial service was held on the campus of WV Wesleyan College in Buckhannon. The fun bunch

from the Westboro Baptist Church announced their intention to attend and perform their usual bs. After much hand wringing

and back and forth, it was decided to deny them what they crave: attention. They attended with their usual "God hates

dead miners" signs but, except for a little media attention, were largely ignored. At the same time, there was another mining

accident in Logan County which involved several deaths. WBC announced that they would return to WV in order to attend the

memorial for the Logan miners. After receiving several death threats on their web site they were advised by the State Police

detachment commander that they should take the threats VERY seriously and that if they showed up, LE couldn't guarantee

their safety. The spokesman for WBC announced they wouldn't attend and ranted about "the blood thirsty savages in Logan, WV."

The reaction of most West Virginians was a shrug and "sounds about right." No one was surprised. At all.

 

My long-winded point is that if they possess a shred of self-preservation there aren't any left wing activists making noise in

Logan County, WV. WV in general is a strong 2nd amendment state. I think WSS hit the nail on the head: it was a

teacher on a power trip. That, and the atmosphere that demands the suspension of a 3rd grader because he shaped his jello

into the shape of a gun at lunchtime. The teacher saw a tshirt with a picture of a firearm and proceeded to completely overreact.

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sounds like discretionary prosecution - a mainstay

of liberals all the way up to the clintons and Buttock and moochelle ObaMao.

Think of it more like they have a kid who acts like an asshole all day but knows how far he can go without getting booted. The teachers got fed up. I guarantee you that no teachers in Logan are liberal in any way shape or form. They would never get hired. It is good ol' boy system.

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The whole damn county shuts down when deer season starts.

 

The same can be said of the whole damn state. Here in Randolph County students have the entire week of Thanksgiving off.

Why? Because deer season starts on the Monday before Thanksgiving and if they tried to have school there wouldn't be any

bus drivers to bring the few kids who are not in the woods to school.

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The same can be said of the whole damn state. Here in Randolph County students have the entire week of Thanksgiving off.

Why? Because deer season starts on the Monday before Thanksgiving and if they tried to have school there wouldn't be any

bus drivers to bring the few kids who are not in the woods to school.

I live in Huntington and work in Charleston. How long have you lived in WV?

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I live in Huntington and work in Charleston. How long have you lived in WV?

 

I live in Beverly, 6 miles from Elkins.

 

Moved here in 1976. Left in 1980 when I joined the Air Force. Returned briefly in 1989 and

left again in 1996. Returned for good in 2001, got married, and decided that it's not a bad

place to raise my kids. Although it sucks to have to drive 2 1/2 hours to attend a decent concert

and it REALLY sucks that the closest place to attend an NFL game is fucking Pittsburgh.

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Ah, so when I've driven through the poor sections of WV, I was

lucky to not be goin to Logan Country?

 

I can see that. I've seen places in WV that reminded me of scary rednecks in horror movies....

 

We used to ride our dirt bikes up in the mountains down around Mullens - a coal mine town - and I

can see that we were always a long ways from Logan country, thank goodness.

 

You know, I was kinda famous with my cousin's friends - I wrecked my dirt bike (250 cc), every single

possible way and at every angle learning to ride the mountains back then, and kept right on ridin.

Wrecked on giant hill climbs, on smoky slag piles, into creeks, gravel roads with bad ruts across em,

til I did learn enough to not wreck anymore. Hey, we don't have those mountains in Ohio, ya know?

 

One day, several of us were way up in the mountains, and I was actually keeping up with the bunch of

maniacs on off road trails and down dry creek beds, and they got onto an old dirt road, and they took off,

and they raced motocross, and I was just a trail rider, so I gave up keepin up. Got around a few long bends, pickin up speed,

going too fast...and I looked down the mountain to my right, and saw them stopped and wavin their arms and I waved back at em....and then noticed they were tryin to get my attention and then they were frantically pointing up ahead of me.

 

I got my hand back on the handlebar, looked up, and right before a hairpin turn down the mountain back

the other way, was a pile of gravel about 6 ft high. I stood up, hit the gravel pile, went who knows how high up

in the air, landed at the hairpin turn, couldn't do anything else but go straight ahead throught a small area of swamp grass

and trees, then turned right down a power line clearing, down the mountain til it eventually leveled off and I ended up back on the road,

and then wrecked, not going very fast, into the far side big ditch. They rode down the mountain and up to me and you should have seen them laughing their asses off. They said having me ride with them was a lot more fun and adventurous, and they finally quit

laughing after a while and my cousin asked me if I was okay, I said "sure".

And they were asking me how the hell I did that, and I looked up the mountain, and said:

 

"hell if I know, it just happened"...... and even though "ROFLMAO" didn't exist back then, by golly,

that's what they were doing......and we started back down the mountain to town..

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Only have driven thru West Virginia when I lived in Manassas, VA. We used to take 522 thru Berkley, WV to hit 70 and bypass the DC 495 traffic. Berkely looked super liberal from just passing by

 

 

Yep. The eastern panhandle---Martinsburg, Berkely Springs, Jefferson County---are now essentially suburbs of DC.

It's like going to a different state.

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I moved here from NJ over ten years ago to help my mom when she got cancer. Been here since. I don't mind it but the pillbilly element is awful.

 

 

For all the stereotypes (ignorant racist rednecks, etc.) there really are a lot of good people here.

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Ah, so when I've driven through the poor sections of WV, I was

lucky to not be goin to Logan Country?

 

I can see that. I've seen places in WV that reminded me of scary rednecks in horror movies....

 

We used to ride our dirt bikes up in the mountains down around Mullens - a coal mine town - and I

can see that we were always a long ways from Logan country, thank goodness.

 

You know, I was kinda famous with my cousin's friends - I wrecked my dirt bike (250 cc), every single

possible way and at every angle learning to ride the mountains back then, and kept right on ridin.

Wrecked on giant hill climbs, on smoky slag piles, into creeks, gravel roads with bad ruts across em,

til I did learn enough to not wreck anymore. Hey, we don't have those mountains in Ohio, ya know?

 

One day, several of us were way up in the mountains, and I was actually keeping up with the bunch of

maniacs on off road trails and down dry creek beds, and they got onto an old dirt road, and they took off,

and they raced motocross, and I was just a trail rider, so I gave up keepin up. Got around a few long bends, pickin up speed,

going too fast...and I looked down the mountain to my right, and saw them stopped and wavin their arms and I waved back at em....and then noticed they were tryin to get my attention and then they were frantically pointing up ahead of me.

 

I got my hand back on the handlebar, looked up, and right before a hairpin turn down the mountain back

the other way, was a pile of gravel about 6 ft high. I stood up, hit the gravel pile, went who knows how high up

in the air, landed at the hairpin turn, couldn't do anything else but go straight ahead throught a small area of swamp grass

and trees, then turned right down a power line clearing, down the mountain til it eventually leveled off and I ended up back on the road,

and then wrecked, not going very fast, into the far side big ditch. They rode down the mountain and up to me and you should have seen them laughing their asses off. They said having me ride with them was a lot more fun and adventurous, and they finally quit

laughing after a while and my cousin asked me if I was okay, I said "sure".

And they were asking me how the hell I did that, and I looked up the mountain, and said:

 

"hell if I know, it just happened"...... and even though "ROFLMAO" didn't exist back then, by golly,

that's what they were doing......and we started back down the mountain to town..

 

 

Cal, I've been to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Greece, Germany, England, Honduras, the Philippines, Korea, Thailand, Japan,

Aruba, Jamaica, Mexico, and Canada, and I've NEVER been anywhere like Logan County, WV.

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Cal, I've been to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Greece, Germany, England, Honduras, the Philippines, Korea, Thailand, Japan,

Aruba, Jamaica, Mexico, and Canada, and I've NEVER been anywhere like Logan County, WV.

I have to go to Mingo and McDowell pretty often. Logan is Beverly Hills compared to those spots.

 

An Ethiopian coworker was appalled at what is considered a house in McDowell. That is coming from a guy who has seen makeshift mud hut housing.

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Cal, I've been to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Greece, Germany, England, Honduras, the Philippines, Korea, Thailand, Japan,


Aruba, Jamaica, Mexico, and Canada, and I've NEVER been anywhere like Logan County, WV.


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LOL. I have never been overseas. But I've been to Canada, Jamaica. Puerto Rico. Apparently, Logan County WV

is worse than the poor parts of Puerto Rico? That's bad.

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I have to go to Mingo and McDowell pretty often. Logan is Beverly Hills compared to those spots.

 

An Ethiopian coworker was appalled at what is considered a house in McDowell. That is coming from a guy who has seen makeshift mud hut housing.

 

 

If you want to see how people have been ass raped by Big Coal, go to McDowell. More coal came out of McDowell County

and more people not from WV (except for the bought-off politicians, of course) got extremely rich because of that coal, but it

is no exaggeration to say that McDowell is third world.

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Cal, I've been to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Greece, Germany, England, Honduras, the Philippines, Korea, Thailand, Japan,

Aruba, Jamaica, Mexico, and Canada, and I've NEVER been anywhere like Logan County, WV.

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LOL. I have never been overseas. But I've been to Canada, Jamaica. Puerto Rico. Apparently, Logan County WV
is worse than the poor parts of Puerto Rico? That's bad.

 

 

 

It's not the poverty--it's the people.

 

They are some of the most confrontational, contrary people I've ever seen.

Disagreements are settled with fists and asskickings. Not kidding---I've seen

people making a huge scene and someone will say "What's up with that guy?"

"He's from Logan County." Reaction---eye roll, shake of the head. "Jesus."

 

I read an article a couple of years ago where a study was done with the Hatfield's of

southern WV, of the infamous Hatfield/McCoy feud. There was some sort of genetic

marker in the Hatfield's and other people in that area, something to do with blood pressure

and related brain chemicals that caused them to be disposed to reacting violently to the

most seemingly small and irrelevant disagreements. Sounds as good a reason as any, I guess.

 

But if you're in WV and talking about some crazy shit that happened and mention 'Logan County' you will invariably get a knowing

eye roll/shake of the head reaction

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