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NFL Moves PATs to 15 Yard Line


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Well there's nothing to do now but see how it goes..I think this as others pointed out really does put more pressure on the cold weather places but who knows for certain. I would have highly preferred them just removing the XP entirely, grant a team 7 points with the option to get a point with the standard two point conversion play now. If the team doesn't get it however they go down to 6. I think that creates an interesting dynamic late in games that adds to the competitiveness but what do I know.

 

It is hard to argue however the XP needed a revamp-it pretty much has been automatic for a long time.

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Its football, not pansyball.

But the NFL keeps saying they are all about players safety

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Stupid rule change. How do I already know this is going to bite the Browns in the a**...?

 

"Week 17, down 6 points with the playoffs on the line... Crowell runs it in with 1 second left on the clock... Browns miss the XP and lose the game in OT... "

 

I know this is going to happen... it's just our luck...

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Stupid rule change. How do I already know this is going to bite the Browns in the a**...?

 

"Week 17, down 6 points with the playoffs on the line... Crowell runs it in with 1 second left on the clock... Browns miss the XP and lose the game in OT... "

 

I know this is going to happen... it's just our luck...

 

The fact that you're assuming we're in the playoff hunt in Week 17 means we've already experienced monumental improvement.

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I'm old enough to remember when the posts were at the FRONT of the End zone, and a 40 yard FG was not a certainty. Hell, back then kickoffs were from the 40- want to try that again now? 90% + of the kickoffs would be out of play.

 

 

Same here. I'm sure you remember that Garo Yepremian & Pete Gogolak were game-changers. Everybody had a straight on kicker, we had Cockroft. Soccer-style kickers took over the majority of the league's kicking by 1980 or so, may have been sooner.

 

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I'm old enough to remember when the posts were at the FRONT of the End zone, and a 40 yard FG was not a certainty. Hell, back then kickoffs were from the 40- want to try that again now? 90% + of the kickoffs would be out of play.

... and the hash marks were wider making not only true near and wide sides, but also adding drama to short FGs due to "bad angles" actually factoring in. Something that was never in play for PATs.

 

The beauty of the short PAT was the utter shock of one being missed be it due to a bad snap, hold or kick, or a defensive play. Now "I can't believe..." will be replaced with "we shoulda... "

 

I guess that's progress.

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Pre-Belicheet-- Best I heard so far. We line up for 2 at the 2 and we bring back the Drop Kick for 1 XP and excitement. 20 yards beats 33 in Cleveland.

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This is the one situation that may in fact make a Tim Tebow relevent. While he is overall a bad QB, there are a couple of things he can do fairly well that might be perfect for attempting a two point conversion: He is big and strong and can bull rush pretty well from the QB spot and from the 2 yard line.....and he was good at the "pop" pass.

 

So, in essence, Tebow could become a PAT specialist QB.

 

And here is another factor: Analytics.

 

Yes....it is possible now that the 2 pt. PAT play may become the somewhat equivalent to the 3 pt. shot in basketball. In other words, if you could just make 2 of 4 2 pt. PATs, it would be the same as making all 4 PATs by kicking.

And if you could increase the success of making a 2 pt. play....to anything over 50 pct. it could pay off in the long run.

(and having a guy like Tebow who would specialize in making that play would be worth having him on the roster.)

And, honestly, with a guy like that, you don't worry about getting him hurt on those rushes or pop passes for he is....truth be told...expendable. The worst that could happen is he gets hurt, can't play....and you go back to kicking 1 pointers.

 

But....a Tebow would be more valuable here than JMZ....because Tebow would not be so fragile.

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This is the one situation that may in fact make a Tim Tebow relevent. While he is overall a bad QB, there are a couple of things he can do fairly well that might be perfect for attempting a two point conversion: He is big and strong and can bull rush pretty well from the QB spot and from the 2 yard line.....and he was good at the "pop" pass.

 

So, in essence, Tebow could become a PAT specialist QB.

 

And here is another factor: Analytics.

 

Yes....it is possible now that the 2 pt. PAT play may become the somewhat equivalent to the 3 pt. shot in basketball. In other words, if you could just make 2 of 4 2 pt. PATs, it would be the same as making all 4 PATs by kicking.

And if you could increase the success of making a 2 pt. play....to anything over 50 pct. it could pay off in the long run.

(and having a guy like Tebow who would specialize in making that play would be worth having him on the roster.)

And, honestly, with a guy like that, you don't worry about getting him hurt on those rushes or pop passes for he is....truth be told...expendable. The worst that could happen is he gets hurt, can't play....and you go back to kicking 1 pointers.

 

But....a Tebow would be more valuable here than JMZ....because Tebow would not be so fragile.

Not 50%, just half the % of making a PAT, which was at something like 99.7%, not might go down to about 97%.

 

Not much difference, but enough :)

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Not 50%, just half the % of making a PAT, which was at something like 99.7%, not might go down to about 97%.

 

Not much difference, but enough :)

OK, figure this: if you score 3 TDs in a game....and make all 3 extra points kicking, you get 3 pts. But if you try for 2 on all 3 extra pt. attempts, and you only make 2 out of 3, you get 4 extra pts.....so you are ahead even being partially successful over be completely successful.

Like I said...it is like the 3 pointer in basketball. Analytics. (which is to say: simple math)

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Yes....it is possible now that the 2 pt. PAT play may become the somewhat equivalent to the 3 pt. shot in basketball. In other words, if you could just make 2 of 4 2 pt. PATs, it would be the same as making all 4 PATs by kicking.

 

 

We're going to score 4 TDs in the same game this year??? Sign me up...

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