The Gipper Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 But what about the safety of the players? They used to just take the XP play off and they all would just stand around. Now it's a "live" play and guys will get hurt. Its football, not pansyball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Well there's nothing to do now but see how it goes..I think this as others pointed out really does put more pressure on the cold weather places but who knows for certain. I would have highly preferred them just removing the XP entirely, grant a team 7 points with the option to get a point with the standard two point conversion play now. If the team doesn't get it however they go down to 6. I think that creates an interesting dynamic late in games that adds to the competitiveness but what do I know. It is hard to argue however the XP needed a revamp-it pretty much has been automatic for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Its football, not pansyball. HA!......and here I thought that post was a total goof...... It's serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Is it April 1st? With all the things that need addressing... they do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Also was it just me that thought this was another punishment for the patriots before understanding what was going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Its football, not pansyball. But the NFL keeps saying they are all about players safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 i say they make the kicker kick it with the DL from the other team circling him yelling NOONAN!! NOONAN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 i say they make the kicker kick it with the DL from the other team circling him yelling NOONAN!! NOONAN!! or maybe singing kumbaya.....???......considering it's so dangerous and all...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 i say they make the kicker kick it with the DL from the other team circling him yelling NOONAN!! NOONAN!! Still my favorite thing to do when golfing with buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Well, this has given Chip Kelly all the fuel he needs to go for 2 everytime. They might as well not even sign a kicker in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Stupid rule change. How do I already know this is going to bite the Browns in the a**...? "Week 17, down 6 points with the playoffs on the line... Crowell runs it in with 1 second left on the clock... Browns miss the XP and lose the game in OT... " I know this is going to happen... it's just our luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Stupid rule change. How do I already know this is going to bite the Browns in the a**...? "Week 17, down 6 points with the playoffs on the line... Crowell runs it in with 1 second left on the clock... Browns miss the XP and lose the game in OT... " I know this is going to happen... it's just our luck... The fact that you're assuming we're in the playoff hunt in Week 17 means we've already experienced monumental improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm old enough to remember when the posts were at the FRONT of the End zone, and a 40 yard FG was not a certainty. Hell, back then kickoffs were from the 40- want to try that again now? 90% + of the kickoffs would be out of play. Same here. I'm sure you remember that Garo Yepremian & Pete Gogolak were game-changers. Everybody had a straight on kicker, we had Cockroft. Soccer-style kickers took over the majority of the league's kicking by 1980 or so, may have been sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm old enough to remember when the posts were at the FRONT of the End zone, and a 40 yard FG was not a certainty. Hell, back then kickoffs were from the 40- want to try that again now? 90% + of the kickoffs would be out of play. ... and the hash marks were wider making not only true near and wide sides, but also adding drama to short FGs due to "bad angles" actually factoring in. Something that was never in play for PATs. The beauty of the short PAT was the utter shock of one being missed be it due to a bad snap, hold or kick, or a defensive play. Now "I can't believe..." will be replaced with "we shoulda... " I guess that's progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Pre-Belicheet-- Best I heard so far. We line up for 2 at the 2 and we bring back the Drop Kick for 1 XP and excitement. 20 yards beats 33 in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 Johnny 2-Point Conversion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 johnny's 2 ypc avg. held to 1 3/4 yard this year. still shrinking. that 1/4 inch DOES make a difference, ask your GF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 This is the one situation that may in fact make a Tim Tebow relevent. While he is overall a bad QB, there are a couple of things he can do fairly well that might be perfect for attempting a two point conversion: He is big and strong and can bull rush pretty well from the QB spot and from the 2 yard line.....and he was good at the "pop" pass. So, in essence, Tebow could become a PAT specialist QB. And here is another factor: Analytics. Yes....it is possible now that the 2 pt. PAT play may become the somewhat equivalent to the 3 pt. shot in basketball. In other words, if you could just make 2 of 4 2 pt. PATs, it would be the same as making all 4 PATs by kicking. And if you could increase the success of making a 2 pt. play....to anything over 50 pct. it could pay off in the long run. (and having a guy like Tebow who would specialize in making that play would be worth having him on the roster.) And, honestly, with a guy like that, you don't worry about getting him hurt on those rushes or pop passes for he is....truth be told...expendable. The worst that could happen is he gets hurt, can't play....and you go back to kicking 1 pointers. But....a Tebow would be more valuable here than JMZ....because Tebow would not be so fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 This is the one situation that may in fact make a Tim Tebow relevent. While he is overall a bad QB, there are a couple of things he can do fairly well that might be perfect for attempting a two point conversion: He is big and strong and can bull rush pretty well from the QB spot and from the 2 yard line.....and he was good at the "pop" pass. So, in essence, Tebow could become a PAT specialist QB. And here is another factor: Analytics. Yes....it is possible now that the 2 pt. PAT play may become the somewhat equivalent to the 3 pt. shot in basketball. In other words, if you could just make 2 of 4 2 pt. PATs, it would be the same as making all 4 PATs by kicking. And if you could increase the success of making a 2 pt. play....to anything over 50 pct. it could pay off in the long run. (and having a guy like Tebow who would specialize in making that play would be worth having him on the roster.) And, honestly, with a guy like that, you don't worry about getting him hurt on those rushes or pop passes for he is....truth be told...expendable. The worst that could happen is he gets hurt, can't play....and you go back to kicking 1 pointers. But....a Tebow would be more valuable here than JMZ....because Tebow would not be so fragile. Not 50%, just half the % of making a PAT, which was at something like 99.7%, not might go down to about 97%. Not much difference, but enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Not 50%, just half the % of making a PAT, which was at something like 99.7%, not might go down to about 97%. Not much difference, but enough OK, figure this: if you score 3 TDs in a game....and make all 3 extra points kicking, you get 3 pts. But if you try for 2 on all 3 extra pt. attempts, and you only make 2 out of 3, you get 4 extra pts.....so you are ahead even being partially successful over be completely successful. Like I said...it is like the 3 pointer in basketball. Analytics. (which is to say: simple math) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Also, only kick onside kicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Yes....it is possible now that the 2 pt. PAT play may become the somewhat equivalent to the 3 pt. shot in basketball. In other words, if you could just make 2 of 4 2 pt. PATs, it would be the same as making all 4 PATs by kicking. We're going to score 4 TDs in the same game this year??? Sign me up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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