LogicIsForSquares Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 These mass shootings keep happening in "gun free zones". There's a giant point there. Oh I would have definitely kept a firearm on my person. These folks obviously did not understand the danger. Sad situation. The scumbag said to the police that they treated him so well when he came in that he almost aborted his plan. Even after that he followed through. He doesn't deserve a bullet. Throw the savage piece of shit to some lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I remember when we were in Mo - in Branson. We went to a theater show,- and I didn't want to leave my firearm in the car, or at the hotel. I simply called the theater and spoke to the manager. He said ccw were absolutely fine, but it has to be kept hidden, which is obvious. No theft in the hotel room or the car. My ohio ccw permit is valid in Mo, and most of the states we traveled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LogicIsForSquares Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I remember when we were in Mo - in Branson. We went to a theater show,- and I didn't want to leave my firearm in the car, or at the hotel. I simply called the theater and spoke to the manager. He said ccw were absolutely fine, but it has to be kept hidden, which is obvious. No theft in the hotel room or the car. My ohio ccw permit is valid in Mo, and most of the states we traveled in. I know it is not permitted but I carry in "gun free zones". They can sue me after I survive and live a full and happy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 This terrible act is yet another case of the mental health system in this country gone horribly wrong. Being 'treated' and seeing a psychologist on the regular but the good doctor didn't feel his patient was a threat to anyone. Yet the shooters friends were even leery of his actions and rantings. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know in a nutshell, then I'm not sure how much good any additional information will do. Bless the victims and families. More importantly, bless anyone whose voice is being used to unify and not divide that community based on skin color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 What Tiam said. and, "I know it is not permitted but I carry in "gun free zones". They can sue me after I survive and live a full and happy life." Logic ********************************* I've been tempted a few times, but I don't. Discretion is the better part of valor. and I never wear any NRA hats, etc, when I'm carrying. Wouldn't that be nuts? You might have to save everybody in that gun free zone from a nutcase on psycho-drugs trying to shoot up the place, and they hammer you with breaking the law? Reminds me of the case of the nutjob who drove his car into a crowd. Making the street a no-car zone wouldn't stop that. In the terrible and tragic shootings at that church - the police never had any kind of chance to get there in time. BTW, I really wish the left would harp about these drugs that these killers are usually on. Psychiratry is playing with fire, i think. If the sick racist killer had a machete in a dimly lit movie theater...and killed several people...would the rabid anti-gun left care? Or is it really all about just fighting their culture war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 You're a troll. Literally everything you say is trolling. We know who is at fault and who the victims were.It certainly wasn't that "blac-ish" looking person you said you saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 What Tiam said. and, "I know it is not permitted but I carry in "gun free zones". They can sue me after I survive and live a full and happy life." Logic ********************************* I've been tempted a few times, but I don't. Discretion is the better part of valor. and I never wear any NRA hats, etc, when I'm carrying. Wouldn't that be nuts? You might have to save everybody in that gun free zone from a nutcase on psycho-drugs trying to shoot up the place, and they hammer you with breaking the law? Reminds me of the case of the nutjob who drove his car into a crowd. Making the street a no-car zone wouldn't stop that. In the terrible and tragic shootings at that church - the police never had any kind of chance to get there in time. BTW, I really wish the left would harp about these drugs that these killers are usually on. Psychiratry is playing with fire, i think. If the sick racist killer had a machete in a dimly lit movie theater...and killed several people...would the rabid anti-gun left care? Or is it really all about just fighting their culture war? Yeah this (mental health) is the overriding problem. That and parents who refuse to heed all of the warnings about their kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 To the point that Cleve made as to whether or not the minister would have wanted CCW folks in his congregation... I would imagine in hindsight he might have a different opinion. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Next time someone does something terrible, and they happen to be Muslim, we can apply the same reasoning. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Next time someone does something terrible, and they happen to be Muslim, we can apply the same reasoning. Correct? Sure. And will the left leaning public demand stricter regulations and background checks on people who make or own bombs IUDs and Rockets and expect that will help? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 It certainly wasn't that "blac-ish" looking person you said you saw. Keep reading on, troll bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Next time someone does something terrible, and they happen to be Muslim, we can apply the same reasoning. Correct? We can enact "common sense" immigration control can't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 We can enact "common sense" immigration control can't we? What would that look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Keep muslims out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 What is "common sense" gun control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 What is "common sense" gun control? Well it would involve not letting people buy guns who have mental illness, or for people with mental illnesses, for starters. Anyone with convictions for violence, too, wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd go for some way to keep track of guns, same as cars. But most importantly, keep them out of the hands of criminals and soon-to-be-criminals by actually enforcing well the current laws. Keep muslims out? Yeah, you can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Common sense approach to anti terrorism would be keeping muslims out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Common sense approach to anti terrorism would be keeping muslims out. All terrorists are muslims? All muslims are terrorists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 To the point that Cleve made as to whether or not the minister would have wanted CCW folks in his congregation... I would imagine in hindsight he might have a different opinion. WSS In hindsight, Sonny would have leaned a little to the left and Buddy Holly would have taken a train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Well it would involve not letting people buy guns who have mental illness, or for people with mental illnesses, for starters. Anyone with convictions for violence, too, wouldn't be a bad idea. Those laws already exist. The parent committed a felony by giving a known felon and head case a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Which mass shooting would those precautions have prevented Chris? Which ones might well have been at least truncated if there were more CCW carriers in those places? Honestly only a full and enforceable gun ban would make any difference at all. Good luck with that. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Those laws already exist. The parent committed a felony by giving a known felon and head case a firearm. And that's what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Which mass shooting would those precautions have prevented Chris? Which ones might well have been at least truncated if there were more CCW carriers in those places? Honestly only a full and enforceable gun ban would make any difference at all. Good luck with that. WSS And how many more people would have been shot and killed from arguments getting out of hand when everyone has a gun? A full and enforceable un ban might well be the only way to stop people being killed with guns. It's impossible to be able to predict with 100% accuracy who is going to go on a rampage every single time. But it seems the US is happy with people being randomly killed in indiscriminate mass shootings, as long as they can keep their guns, and until that changes, these things will continue to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 And how many more people would have been shot and killed from arguments getting out of hand when everyone has a gun? ~~ no idea. But that's not what we're talking about is it? I'm talking about a number of people who have passed the training and qualifications to have a CCW, not just the old liberal saw about everybody having a gun~~ A full and enforceable un ban might well be the only way to stop people being killed with guns. It's impossible to be able to predict with 100% accuracy who is going to go on a rampage every single time. But it seems the US is happy with people being randomly killed in indiscriminate mass shootings, as long as they can keep their guns, and until that changes, these things will continue to happen. But that's the reality. If in fact your goal is to stop gun violence at any cost.a common sense approach might be to not allow certain demographics to own guns. find out which group is responsible for most gun violence and punish the entire group. This is certainly common sense but... I guess it boils to how willing we are to give up freedom after freedom after freedom for safety? And gun violence isn't anywhere near the top of list of things that kill people that could be prevented. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I would not want to see law abiding citizens lose their constitutional gun rights because of the actions of a few evil deranged people. One thing that might help would be tough prison sentences for those who possess guns illegally. Go after the law breakers. So many gun laws have zero effect on criminals who do not obey laws but put only affect law abiding citizens who are not the problem anyway. It is disturbing to see the left turn these tragedies into politics (never let a crisis go to waste). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 So if no one under the age of 40 could own a gun there would probably be a lot less mass shootings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 All terrorists are muslims? All muslims are terrorists? At least 90% are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 All terrorists are muslims? For all intents and purposes yes, the vast majority are. Why do you people keep playing that denial game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 At least 90% are Was the shooter in this story a terrorist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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