DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 http://toprightnews.com/liberals-legislators-pass-bill-change-fishs-name-hurtful-offensive/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I would change it to an actual offensive name. Yellow slant eye carp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 is carp a word for Asians? I didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 is carp a word for Asians? I didn't know. I didn't know that either. You learn something new everyday on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I didn't know that either. You learn something new everyday on this forum. I doubt you learn a fuking thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I doubt you learn a fuking thing. I learn some people on here are not very smart, and they prove it on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I learn some people on here are not very smart, and they prove it on a daily basis. Pot meet kettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Pot meet kettle. I stand corrected I don't learn anything, on here, from people that are not very smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 This is why I laugh out loud reading this forum. "Conservatives" ok with paying a tax rate significantly higher than corporate america but let's talk about fish names and assault weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 And liberal legislators spend their time making changes to a fish's name in order not to offend, Why not just give these legislators some crayons and coloring books for all the good they are really accomplishing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Liberal Liberal Satan Liberal Liberal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 This is why I laugh out loud reading this forum. "Conservatives" ok with paying a tax rate significantly higher than corporate america but let's talk about fish names and assault weapons. Conservative Conservative Satan Conservative Conservative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Corporate taxes are stupid; they just get embedded in prices A standard battle cry among liberals is that we need to hit corporations harder & make them pay higher taxes on corporate income. Sounds smart, but it's actually an utterly stupid plan. In reality, corporations don't pay taxes. That's right, not really. They collect taxes for the government and help the government deceive you into thinking that they are paying. But corporations and businesses simply do what they have to--pass the cost on to you, the unsuspecting consumer. It is for them the simple cost of doing business. For you, it's another way in which your government has collected taxes from you that you weren't even aware of. The average embedded tax on what we buy in this country is 22%. That means that when you purchase something and pay $100, the provider got $78 and the government took $22. If you want Congress to put a greater tax burden on businesses, they certainly can do it, but don't think that makes you better off. It means the cost of the product you buy will be higher. Source: Do The Right Thing, by Mike Huckabee, p.158 , Nov 18, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 http://www.sanders.senate.gov/top-10-corporate-tax-avoiders I have google as well and if you are quoting Huckabee as gospel I raise you a Bernie Sanders Just ask yourself one question why would a shrewd billionaire businessman give a Presidential campaign millions of dollars? To keep gays from marrying? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/02/corporate-political-donations_n_1644375.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 If you are using Bernie Sanders as gospel: Here’s Why Bernie Sanders is Wrong About Everythinghttp://thelibertarianrepublic.com/heres-why-bernie-sanders-is-wrong-about-everything/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Grant Phillips, there's a guy who has credibility http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/corporate-tax-havens/ Still haven't answered the questions, the Koch Brothers will invest millions of dollars for morality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Top Organization Contributors https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php Koch brothers are 48 in the top 100. You would have thought they were number one with the way Harry Reid and whining democrats complain but actually the top ten are dominated by groups primarily funding democrats. Let's not forget George Soros and all the money he gives to left wing causes: George has his fingers in a lot of pies! http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 You think George Soros does? Higgardly Clinton's overseas arab donors? Come on, think. don't always be like a liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Top Organization Contributors https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php Koch brothers are 48 in the top 100. You would have thought they were number one with the way Harry Reid and whining democrats complain but actually the top ten are dominated by groups primarily funding democrats. Let's not forget George Soros and all the money he gives to left wing causes: George has his fingers in a lot of pies! http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/politics/kochs-plan-to-spend-900-million-on-2016-campaign.html?_r=0 Citizens' United, anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 And I've never claimed that the Democratic party doesn't have someone pulling the strings as well. I just choose to look at the problem, namely corporate tax issues and campaign finance reform as problems, not a problem with who is doing the financing for whom. And I think that discussion warrants more attention than who is renaming fish or declaring next Thursday "Smaller Farmer Appreciation Day" in Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 This Is Why We Should Fear George Soros, Not The Koch Brothershttp://www.westernjournalism.com/koch-brothers-george-soros-fear/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 We tried to get liberals to talk about Soros before. Not one peep out of those chickens. But Koch this, Koch that - yeah, they were all over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 This Is Why We Should Fear George Soros, Not The Koch Brothers http://www.westernjournalism.com/koch-brothers-george-soros-fear/ Don't fear either, I fear that one has confused you into thinking they are in it for you and not themselves. I know neither represents my interests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Don't fear either, I fear that one has confused you into thinking they are in it for you and not themselves. I know neither represents my interests I don't believe socialism is the answer. I cannot look to one country anywhere it has ever been tried and worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 I don't believe socialism is the answer. I cannot look to one country anywhere it has ever been tried and worked. So if I pay 30 percent of my income in federal taxes and I expect Exxon Mobil to do the same, I'm a socialist? And so I don't appear liberal throw Apple in the mix as well. Why do we credit domestic companies for taxes paid to foreign governments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 So if I pay 30 percent of my income in federal taxes and I expect Exxon Mobil to do the same, I'm a socialist? Bernie Sanders is a self described democratic socialist and sure you can put all the higher taxes you want on business and corporations that will come back to you the consumer in embedded higher costs. We had huge economic growth under Reagan with less taxes and regulations so why not go with what has proven to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 So if I pay 30 percent of my income in federal taxes and I expect Exxon Mobil to do the same, I'm a socialist? And so I don't appear liberal throw Apple in the mix as well. Why do we credit domestic companies for taxes paid to foreign governments? No, if you expect Exxon to pay the % you pay then you'd be more of a pro-corporation capitalist. Pick another corporation to whine about. 1. Exxon Mobil > Income tax expense: $31.0 billion > Earnings before taxes: $78.7 billion (the most) > Revenue: $428.4 billion (2nd most) > 1-yr. share price change: +14.5% > Industry: Oil and gas Exxon Mobil is one of the nation’s largest companies by a number of measures. The oil and gas titan trails only Walmart in revenue and has the highest pre-tax income of any American public company. Not surprisingly, Exxon Mobil also pays more in taxes than any other corporation. In its most recently reported full year, the company’s tax expenses totaled nearly $31 billion. Exxon Mobile’s foreign income totaled more than $67 billion in its most recent fiscal year, which helped boost its effective tax rate to 44% of before-tax income. However, foreign taxes are not the company’s only drain on profits. For much of last year, the company had to contend with diminishing profitability from its refining operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Grant Phillips, there's a guy who has credibility http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/corporate-tax-havens/ Still haven't answered the questions, the Koch Brothers will invest millions of dollars for morality? Call a guy out for credibility and quote the huff... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 No, if you expect Exxon to pay the % you pay then you'd be more of a pro-corporation capitalist. Pick another corporation to whine about. 1. Exxon Mobil > Income tax expense: $31.0 billion > Earnings before taxes: $78.7 billion (the most) > Revenue: $428.4 billion (2nd most) > 1-yr. share price change: +14.5% > Industry: Oil and gas Exxon Mobil is one of the nation’s largest companies by a number of measures. The oil and gas titan trails only Walmart in revenue and has the highest pre-tax income of any American public company. Not surprisingly, Exxon Mobil also pays more in taxes than any other corporation. In its most recently reported full year, the company’s tax expenses totaled nearly $31 billion. Exxon Mobile’s foreign income totaled more than $67 billion in its most recent fiscal year, which helped boost its effective tax rate to 44% of before-tax income. However, foreign taxes are not the company’s only drain on profits. For much of last year, the company had to contend with diminishing profitability from its refining operations. I actually do. When I pay taxes I have two choices, itemize or straight deduction. Unfortunately I'm not able to itemize my annual income down to 18% of my annual income. Corporations are able to take income (revenue) and itemize (expenditures, tax loopholes) to outrageously low ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 And meanwhile the gook carp are plowing their way up the Cuyahoga to invade Lake Erie...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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