NFL Supplemental draft to be held July 9th

[The Gipper]

The NFL Supplemental draft is to be held tomorrow. One player is garnering attention: Clemson OT Isaiah Battle. He could go high......and anyone picking him would lose the corresponding round pick in next year's draft. Any interest?

 

Here is more on the subject:

 

No player has been picked in the supplemental draft since 2012, when the Cleveland Browns used a second-round pick on Josh Gordon. Clemson offensive tackle Isaiah Battle, the best prospect available in this year's supplemental draft, has a good chance to be selected.

Joining Battle in the draft are West Georgia defensive tackle Dalvon Stuckey and defensive end Darrius Caldwell, Houston defensive end Eric Eiland, UConn tight end Sean McQuillan, Kansas defensive back Kevin Short and North Carolina Central wide receiver Adrian Wilkins.

The supplemental draft will be held July 9.

[The Gipper]

The supplemental draft. Here's five fascinating picks of past drafts:

5. Bobby Humphrey. Humphrey's meteoric NFL career began when the Denver Broncos made him a first-round pick in the 1989 supplemental draft, and his rookie total of 1,151 yards rushing helped theBroncos earn a berth in Super Bowl XXIV against theSan Francisco 49ers. Humphrey followed up with aPro Bowl spot in 1990, but also the inevitable contract renegotiation, which ultimately ended his tenure with the Broncos. A trade to the Miami Dolphins did nothing to reignite Humphrey, and his promising career ended in a fizzle.

4. Brian Bosworth. Bosworth is now better known as one of the biggest draft busts in NFL history, but the highly touted Oklahoma linebacker was so well thought of when picked by the Seattle Seahawks in the first round of the 1987 supplemental draft that he was handed the largest rookie contract of all time at that point -- 10 years for $11 million. Bosworth is proof positive that all that glitters in the supplemental draft is not gold.

3. Steve Walsh. Walsh's selection by Jimmy Johnson in 1989 was curious for many reasons, not least that he had invested a first-round pick in quarterback Troy Aikman just weeks earlier. Johnson spent another first-rounder on Walsh, with whom he had won the 1987 national championship at the University of Miami.

Walsh actually won the Dallas Cowboys starting job ahead of Aikman in his rookie season, starting five games -- including the team's only victory that year -- before being benched for the eventual three-time Super Bowl winner. Walsh was traded to New Orleans a year later and wound up playing for six NFL teams in an undistinguished 11-year NFL career.

2. Bernie Kosar. Kosar's manipulation of the NFL's long-established draft rules allowed him to play with his preferred team, the Cleveland Browns, after they traded away their 1985 and 1986 first-round picks for the Buffalo Bills' top pick in the 1986 draft.

They then used that pick to select Kosar with the first overall pick in the 1985 supplemental draft. Sound complicated? The fact that Kosar effectively chose to play for the Browns made him an instant "Dawg Pound" favorite, and when Bill Belichick released Kosar in 1993 and replaced him with Vinny Testaverde, he lost the support of Cleveland's loyal fans.

1. Cris Carter. Gordon can take some hope from Carter's introduction to the NFL. Picked in the fourth round of the supplemental draft by the Philadelphia Eagles, Carter's NFL career didn't begin well either. After being released by Eagles head coach Buddy Ryan following extensive off-field problems with drugs, Carter excelled with theMinnesota Vikings in his second NFL stop, putting together a career that wound up with him being enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2013.

[Mudfly]

7 players available but only one who's really a worthy prospect.....probably a middle round pick(4-5th?).....so, for us, I dont see any chance we burn a pick on an "ify" o lineman who likely wouldnt even make the team....

 

plus, it's kind of late.....so anyone you pick is starting behind the ball by already missing OTA's and mini camps and conditioning etc....Id say a team desperate to fill a need now may take a swing...otherwise, most will pass on all these guys....

[The Gipper]

7 players available but only one who's really a worthy prospect.....probably a middle round pick(4-5th?).....so, for us, I dont see any chance we burn a pick on an "ify" o lineman who likely wouldnt even make the team....

 

plus, it's kind of late.....so anyone you pick is starting behind the ball by already missing OTA's and mini camps and conditioning etc....Id say a team desperate to fill a need now may take a swing...otherwise, most will pass on all these guys....

I saw on TV that if this guy Battle stayed and played this year and entered next years draft that he could be a first round pick.

[Mudfly]

I saw on TV that if this guy Battle stayed and played this year and entered next years draft that he could be a first round pick.

Ive not heard anything like that.....only that he's "likely" to get picked and everything Ive read so far suggests mid - late rounds(3-5)...

 

OT's are pretty coveted, so if he's really a 1st round talent, someone will surely tap him earlier than 3.....

[D Bone]

My Supplemental Draft Mock

 

Round 1) Pass

Round 2) Pass

Round 3) Pass

Round 4) Pass

Round 5) Pass

Round 6) Pass

Round 7) Pass

[The Gipper]

NFL.com scouting reports on all Supp draft eligible players:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000500474/article/2015-nfl-supplemental-draft-primer

 

Only Battle is believed to be picked up. As for the Browns interest in him....if they feel they still need depth on the OL....and if they feel this guy could be a guy they can use, why not use a pick on him. 4th5th rounder. Browns have proven to be the one team willing to do something in the Supp draft.

[The Gipper]

1 2012 2 1 Josh Gordon WR 21 CLE 2012 2014 1 1 2 18 35 32 0 1 0 0 0 5 88 0 161 2754 14 Utah College Stats 2

2011 3 1 Terrelle Pryor QB 22 OAK 2011 2013 0 0 1 7 16 10 3-7-0 170 302 1953 9 12 93 627 3 1 22 0 Ohio St. 3

2010 7 1 Harvey Unga RB 23 CHI 2012 2013 0 0 0 0 0 BYU 4

2007 4 1 Paul Oliver DB 23 SDG 2008 2011 0 0 0 9 57 12 4 1.0 Georgia College Stats 5

2005 5 1 Manuel Wright DT 21 MIA 2005 2007 0 0 0 0 9 0 1.0 USC College Stats 6

2003 2 1 Tony Hollings RB 21 HOU 2003 2005 0 0 0 2 23 1 49 149 0 7 71 0 Georgia Tech College Stats 7

2002 6 1 Milford Brown G 22 HOU 2003 2008 0 0 1 19 53 47 Florida St. 8

2000 4 1 J'Juan Cherry DB NWE 0 0 0 Arizona St. 9

1999 4 1 J'Juan Cherry DB NWE 0 0 0 Arizona St. College Stats 10

1998 2 1 Mike Wahle G 21 GNB 1998 2008 0 1 9 60 152 138 1 7 0 Navy 11

1998 2 2 Jamal Williams DT 22 SDG 1998 2010 2 3 7 67 164 138 1 13.0 Oklahoma St. 12 1995 3 1 Darren Benson DT 21 DAL 1995 1997 0 0 0 1 12 0 Trinity Valley CC (TX) 13 1994 4 1 Tito Wooten DB 22 NYG 1994 1999 0 0 3 23 83 47 8 3.0 La-Monroe 14

1994 5 2 John Davis TE 21 DAL 1997 2002 0 0 0 5 81 26 55 517 6 Emporia St. 15

1992 1 1 Dave Brown QB 22 NYG 1992 2001 0 0 3 27 75 59 26-34-0 892 1634 10248 44 58 192 669 7 Duke College Stats 16

1992 2 2 Darren Mickell DE 22 KAN 1992 2001 0 0 3 28 89 60 26.0 Florida 17

1990 1 1 Rob Moore WR 21 NYJ 1990 1999 1 2 10 63 153 146 1 2 33 0 1 5 8 0 628 9368 49 Syracuse College Stats 18

1990 9 2 Willie Williams T 23 PHO 1991 1994 0 0 0 5 32 8 2 10 1 LSU College Stats 19

1989 1 1 Steve Walsh QB 22 DAL 1989 1999 0 0 2 20 80 38 20-18-0 713 1317 7875 40 50 80 47 1 Miami (FL) College Stats 20

1989 1 2 Timm Rosenbach QB 22 PHO 1989 1992 0 0 1 13 26 20 5-15-0 295 551 3676 16 24 101 507 3 Washington St. College Stats 21

1989 1 3 Bobby Humphrey RB 22 DEN 1989 1992 0 1 2 27 51 27 1 4 17 1 0 695 2857 15 100 815 2 Alabama College Stats 22

1989 8 4 Brett Young DT BUF 0 0 0 Oregon College Stats 23

1989 12 5 Mike Loman RB DAL 0 0 0 Coffeyville CC 24

1988 5 1 Ryan Bethea WR MIN 0 0 0 South Carolina College Stats 25

1987 1 1 Brian Bosworth LB 22 SEA 1987 1989 0 0 2 11 24 24 4.0 Oklahoma College Stats 26

1987 3 2 Dan Sileo DT 23 TAM 1987 1987 0 0 0 1 10 0 Miami (FL) 27

1987 4 3 Cris Carter HOF WR 21 PHI 1987 2002 2 8 13 98 234 209 0 1 0 0 0 13 41 0 1101 13899 130 Ohio St. College Stats 28

1986 7 1 Charles Crawford RB 22 PHI 1986 1987 0 0 0 1 18 5 28 88 1 Oklahoma St. College Stats 29

1985 1 1 Bernie Kosar QB 21 CLE 1985 1996 0 1 7 67 126 108 53-54-1 1994 3365 23301 124 87 180 265 5 3 -5 0 Miami (FL) College Stats 30

1985 12 2 Roosevelt Snipes RB SFO 0 0 0 115

1982 9 1 Kevin Robinson DB DET 0 0 0 North Carolina A&T College Stats 116

1981 1 1 Dave Wilson QB 22 NOR 1981 1988 0 0 2 16 53 31 12-19-0 551 1039 6987 36 55 45 23 2 Illinois College Stats 117

1981 11 2 Chy Davidson WR 22 NWE 1984 1985 0 0 0 0 4 0 Rhode Island 118

1980 7 1 Matthew Teague LB 21 ATL 1981 1981 0 0 0 1 11 0 Prairie View 119

1980 9 2 Billy Mullins WR SDG 0 0 0 USC College Stats 120

1979 6 1 Rod Stewart RB BUF 0 0 0 Kentucky College Stats Misc Games

1978 10 1 Johnnie Dirden WR 26 HOU 1978 1981 0 0 0 0 26 0 Sam Houston St. 122

1978 12 2 Rod Connors RB SFO 0 0 0 USC College Stats 123

1977 4 1 Al Hunter RB 22 SEA 1977 1980 0 0 0 9 52 5 180 715 4 27 331 0 Notre Dame College Stats 124

1974 1 1 Clint Longley QB 22 CIN 1974 1976 0 0 0 2 9 2 2-0-0 31 68 441 5 4 11 21 0 Abilene Christian 125

1973 1 1 Blenda Gay

 

Above are all Supplemental draft picks since 1970.....not including the 1984 USFL supplemental draft. Some of these guys had decent careers....most notably Chris Carter HOF, and Bernie Kosar. Rob Moore, Jamal Williams, Mike Wahle also had good careers.

And the Browns now have the last two Supp draft picks on their roster: Gordon and Pryor....although Gordon is suspended.

So,maybe a 4th rounder for Battle.....good name....should be considered.

[Mudfly]

Only Battle is believed to be picked up. As for the Browns interest in him....if they feel they still need depth on the OL....and if they feel this guy could be a guy they can use, why not use a pick on him. 4th5th rounder. Browns have proven to be the one team willing to do something in the Supp draft.

Playing devils advocate...here are my arguments not to draft him...

 

1) We currently have 5 guys who can play tackle, including 2 young ones(Erving/Bowie) to develop....(3 if you count Bitonio)

 

2) We currently do NOT have an extra roster spot to carry a project at a position we have 5 solid guys at(see #1 again)(and PS wouldnt be an option, so he'd be on the 53 man roster or lost to waivers)

 

3) We are working to build a team with higher character, so the last thing the Browns want to do is draft an undisciplined pot smoking project player

 

4) Id think the Browns are pretty comfortable with the O line currently and would prefer to use their future picks on areas of greater need

[The Gipper]

Playing devils advocate...here are my arguments not to draft him...

 

1) We currently have 5 guys who can play tackle, including 2 young ones(Erving/Bowie) to develop....(3 if you count Bitonio)

 

2) We currently do NOT have an extra roster spot to carry a project at a position we have 5 solid guys at(see #1 again)(and PS wouldnt be an option, so he'd be on the 53 man roster or lost to waivers)

 

3) We are working to build a team with higher character, so the last thing the Browns want to do is draft an undisciplined pot smoking project player

 

4) Id think the Browns are pretty comfortable with the O line currently and would prefer to use their future picks on areas of greater need

All valid. As I said, if the Browns felt they had a need to add depth....and if they thought this kid was a good fit, they could take a chance.....but like you said, they may not have a need (though you may be higher on Bowie than I am), and maybe this guy wouldn't fit if they did.

(but as far as pot smoking undisciplined player.....that describes probably 75% of the NFL)

[Mudfly]

All valid. As I said, if the Browns felt they had a need to add depth....and if they thought this kid was a good fit, they could take a chance.....

 

(but as far as pot smoking undisciplined player.....that describes probably 75% of the NFL)

Ok....fair enough...though, if thats the argument, then Id say it applies to every single player in the draft......IF we need one and IF he's good, then we should draft him.....???.....I could say that about every position or player out there.....

 

My reply simply says I dont think we really need the depth and the Browns probably dont think this guy is that good and has red flags, therefore, why take the chance?

 

As far as 75% percent of players being pot heads and undisciplined, Id disagree.....at least to the point that nowhere near 75% have been suspended for lack of discipline and nowhere near 75% enter the league already having been busted for pot(and, therefore, already in the drug program with a strike against them)......thats the reason Beckham Green and Shane Ray dropped so far in this last draft......so, to me, it doesnt make sense to say a guy who has a history of problems and has a drug bust on his remume is equal to hundreds of guys who dont.......

[The Gipper]

Well, this "draft" started at 1:00 pm and is apparently ongoing as I type. Not sure how long it would take to know if/when/where someone was taken. It is all done by phone I understand. How long does it take for all these teams to "pass" if they are going to?

[Mudfly]

Its over.....He went to the Rams in the 5th round.

[The Gipper]

Its over.....He went to the Rams in the 5th round.

OK, about right.

[Tour2ma]

Well, D nailed our SuppDraft.

 

Its over.....He went to the Rams in the 5th round.

Amazing... All the OT names on the Rams roster and they are still taking shots.

[Mudfly]

Amazing... All the OT names on the Rams roster and they are still taking shots.

exactly what I was thinking.......they drafted 3 this year alone(now 4).....plus 2 last year......?????

[D Bone]

Well, D nailed our SuppDraft.

 

 

Thanks T, it took seconds of research