Westside Steve Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 http://www.priestsforlife.org/babybodyparts/ For those who consider abortion a major issue. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The roots of Planned Parenthood are in the founder Margaret Sanger and I don't believe her views are known by a large part of our population. Below are just some of her quotes: "The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923) On blacks, immigrants and indigents:"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people On the extermination of blacks:"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon On sterilization & racial purification:Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech. On the right of married couples to bear children:Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932 On the purpose of birth control:The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2) On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Illegal trafficking of fetal body parts = not ok Using aborted fetal body parts for research = ok This is assuming the mother is aware. People abuse something, not a surprise. People abuse everything. I am not sure how this would hurt a pro-choice standpoint though. I am also not sure there is anyone here that considers this a "major" issue (depending on how you define major). I'd imagine if we were females we'd see it in a more critical light. At the end of the day I think women should be in control of their bodies, there should be a reasonable cutoff date set on abortions, and we shouldn't use religion as a means to decide what is right or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I find elective abortions to be one of the most abominable things in this world. It's a sick practice practiced of course by sick people. The only thing it has going for it is that the people getting abortions really shouldn't be parents. I'd prefer they actually were sterilized then they could fuck like animals to their hearts content and never have to kill for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Don't worry guys if you are right about your version of god then justice will prevail, correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 People abuse something, not a surprise. This story not reported on major liberal news networks, not a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I find elective abortions to be one of the most abominable things in this world. It's a sick practice practiced of course by sick people. The only thing it has going for it is that the people getting abortions really shouldn't be parents. I'd prefer they actually were sterilized then they could fuck like animals to their hearts content and never have to kill for it. What do you mean by elective? Anything that isn't for the purpose of preserving the health of the mother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Don't worry guys if you are right about your version of god then justice will prevail, correct. If they are right about their version of God, then heaven has very few people in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 If they are right about their version of God, then heaven has very few people in it And I'll be burning with the cool people, eating bacon and fornicating - cause it was til death do us part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 And I'll be burning with the cool people, eating bacon and fornicating - cause it was til death do us part I would think bacon was a gift from God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 What do you mean by elective? Anything that isn't for the purpose of preserving the health of the mother? There are of course some humane exceptions but basically yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Don't worry guys if you are right about your version of god then justice will prevail, correct. I don't believe in god per se so that tired crap can get crammed up your ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 There are of course some humane exceptions but basically yes. So a 19 year old has sex with her boyfriend. They use a form of contraception but it fails. She's a student working full time just to get by. She's "sick" for wanting an abortion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 No, she's irresponsible. Why take the chance on having a child when she is in no place in life to take a chance on having a child? It isn't that hard to figure out. And Steve brought up a hideous indictment against "planned parenthood". Obamao's fave org. He supported pba from the gitgo. And of course, certain libs show up, change the subject, and make jokes. Very sad. Everything is a joke when it doesn't get libs free stuff, directly, or indirectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-planned-parenthood-fetal-parts-20150714-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 http://www.lifeissues.org/connector/99jul.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 still think it's a joke, jerks? This “lab” is a depot for Family Planning Associates, California’s largest abortion mill chain. Every container holds a baby who was murdered by abortion. The size of the container is proportional to the age of the child. The larger containers hold 2nd trimester babies. Each of these children deserved to live. The following pictures were taken 1/25/98 and 2/1/98 at: “One of the boxes fell out of the container, spilling its contents on the ground. I stared at a large object but couldn’t tell what it was. I called my boss to come over and take a look. All of a sudden we realized with great horror that it was a decapitated body of a baby. Other workers started vomittig.” ` Hank Stolk, employee of Martin Container Corporation, Los Angeles, Ca. USA 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Browns149 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 But what if she didn't have sex and still got pregnant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 No, she's irresponsible. Why take the chance on having a child when she is in no place in life to take a chance on having a child? It isn't that hard to figure out. And Steve brought up a hideous indictment against "planned parenthood". Obamao's fave org. He supported pba from the gitgo. And of course, certain libs show up, change the subject, and make jokes. Very sad. Everything is a joke when it doesn't get libs free stuff, directly, or indirectly. Well, she was responsible in such a way that she made sure she used some form of contraception. On the other hand, nature has given us the urge to have sex in order for us to have babies. They engaged in an act specifically designed to produce a specific outcome. Unfortunately for the girl, (and guy) the mechanism worked exactly like it was supposed to. So yes, you can say she was irresponsible for having sex in the first place. Enter religion. Christianity gives us a moral code to abide by. No fucking until you get married period. Abstinence is asking a lot I know. Guilty as charged lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 So a 19 year old has sex with her boyfriend. They use a form of contraception but it fails. She's a student working full time just to get by. She's "sick" for wanting an abortion? Adoption is a better option. If you're going to have sex for sport both partners can use a form of birth control and if the fetus STILL survives it's probably Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 still think it's a joke, jerks? This lab is a depot for Family Planning Associates, Californias largest abortion mill chain. Every container holds a baby who was murdered by abortion. The size of the container is proportional to the age of the child. The larger containers hold 2nd trimester babies. Each of these children deserved to live. The following pictures were taken 1/25/98 and 2/1/98 at: One of the boxes fell out of the container, spilling its contents on the ground. I stared at a large object but couldnt tell what it was. I called my boss to come over and take a look. All of a sudden we realized with great horror that it was a decapitated body of a baby. Other workers started vomittig. ` Hank Stolk, employee of Martin Container Corporation, Los Angeles, Ca. USA 1982. The fucked up weird almost funny thing is these are the same people that want guns banned cause , gee whiz, someone might get killed. And the death sentence for murderers is, like, totally inhumane man. But when it's the most innocent it's perfectly ok. A "choice" with no consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 The fucked up weird almost funny thing is these are the same people that want guns banned cause , gee whiz, someone might get killed. And the death sentence for murderers is, like, totally inhumane man. But when it's the most innocent it's perfectly ok. A "choice" with no consequences. I must have missed those people posting on this board. Unless by "people" you are just talking in an "Evil liberals are out to get me" Cal sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It's got nothing to do with me. Are you going to sit there, really, and deny that your pro choice folks are the anti gun anti death penalty crowd? Are you really going to do that? I know a lot of these guys give you shit but are you really going to give them that ammo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Adoption is a better option. If you're going to have sex for sport both partners can use a form of birth control and if the fetus STILL survives it's probably Jesus. With all of the people in the US, all of the times they have sex, and the failure rates of contraception (although very small), statistically, it is going to happen. Who are you to tell the woman she needs to go through 9 months of pregnancy and a birth? Where do you draw the line? How far into the pregnancy? (I'm asking you. I want to know what your opinion is. It doesn't have to be absolutes, I'm just trying to get an idea of where you're coming from). I believe we've had this same song and dance before. You did the "I'm a parent now and I know every child is precious" thing, and then I believe we found a common ground in there. No one (no one here at least) is advocating late term abortions. No one is trying to glorify the procedure or say they're "pro abortion". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 After the heart starts beating it's no good. So you've got roughly six weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It's got nothing to do with me. Are you going to sit there, really, and deny that your pro choice folks are the anti gun anti death penalty crowd? Are you really going to do that? I know a lot of these guys give you shit but are you really going to give them that ammo? I don't identify with whatever liberal, socialist, hippy persona you and others on this board have seemed to construct in your minds. Or the idea that is being fed through conservative media outlets. I would imagine there is a cross over between the pro choice, anti gun and anti death penalty crowd. I do not think you can paint a broad stroke and say everyone that is pro choice is anti death penalty and thinks we should ban all guns. While that fits tidily into whatever stereotypes some on here may have created, it doesn't always reflect reality. I am pro choice up until a reasonable amount of time. I am fine with the death penalty is cases where it is warranted, but at the same time it costs tax payers a lot of money I don't think guns should be banned (and it is very unrealistic), but I am form some kind of gun control reform. See how those all don't fit nicely into the "Those People" generalization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 After the heart starts beating it's no good. So you've got roughly six weeks. Why is that your cut off date? What makes this muscle starting to work so significant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 That is the point at which it is a human baby no matter how small and not a clump of cells as you would like to think of it as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 That is the point at which it is a human baby no matter how small and not a clump of cells as you would like to think of it as I tend to fall into the category that there is an empirical line that can be drawn where life exists and I personally would not want that life ended. That being said the human race is pretty much ok with killing everything in our path and some have empirically made the case that society is better off with the current laws as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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