ballpeen Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I keep Manziel. He is tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I keep Manziel. He is tougher. Manziel played 2 games and hurt his hamstring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I keep Manziel. He is tougher. I've never heard of a backup qb taking off three weeks in training camp because his elbow was sore from throwing a football. Which came after spending the offseason in rehab. Which came after straining his hammy running from a big guy in his second start, and then blowing off treatment to party. Can't wait to see this legendary toughness. Z --I guess whizzing a water bottle at a teenager at the pool was kinda tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I've never heard of a backup qb taking off three weeks in training camp because his elbow was sore from throwing a football. Which came after spending the offseason in rehab. Which came after straining his hammy running from a big guy in his second start, and then blowing off treatment to party. Can't wait to see this legendary toughness. Z --I guess whizzing a water bottle at a teenager at the pool was kinda tough. All true, but I wonder if he is just sore from actually practicing for the first time in his life. I think he will be okay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I keep Manziel. He is tougher. I'm in 'Peen's camp on this one. Pettine & staff err on the conservative side with players health & that's a good thing. Let's just wait & see what happens. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Riffer - 16 freakin million? Ah. Then the answer is, NO FREAKIN WAY, unless he renegotiates his contract.. or something. Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Guess I'll be the only one. I'd do this in a heartbeat. Provided that it's not something stupid like $16M in each of the next two years... Rather than combined. Team has the space to absorb that. I don't think RGIII is done. I think he's in a bad situation. And hate him or not, he's done far more at the NFL level than Manziel has. Hell, we're all happy here when Johnny Football looks like he may be developing into a decent backup. Just the fact that he wasn't a hyena fire in the preseason has some singing praises (me included). But he has a long way to go to even be at RGIII's level. Swapping Manziel for Griffin IS buying low. I'd take the chance that he succeeds outside of Washington. Thing is - the 'Skins would never touch this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Physically, he may be recovered. Mentally, it's harder to come back from a torn ACL than it is a little elbow soreness - especially when your value proposition to the team is your elusiveness. I wouldn't mind us taking a flier on RG3, but not at the cost of JMZ. First the media jizz fest at the even the thought of JM and RG3 on the same team would be too huge... Second... not just the knee but there was also that gruesome, non-contact ankle dislocation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 And even for free I pass on RG3... even if there were no "jizz fest"... What locker room reports I have heard on RG are not good... Here's the latest and it's only 5-days old: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/27/report-several-washington-offensive-linemen-dislike-rg3/ Doesn't read very "Play like a Brown" to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Whatever source you had Gip was full of shit. Pettine: On an update on QB Johnny Manziel and when he might resume throwing: “Yeah, he’s close. I just spoke with (head athletic trainer) Joe Sheehan about that, that he’s where we thought he would be in the progression and that we’re confident by the end of the week that he’ll be able to handle the football and throw it.” I don't remember using any source.....other than to say it was sports talk radio speculation. I was not implying that these trade talks were actually taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't remember using any source.....other than to say it was sports talk radio speculation. I was not implying that these trade talks were actually taking place. I was referring to you saying you 'had heard' he (Manziel) was going to be put in the pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I was referring to you saying you 'had heard' he (Manziel) was going to be put in the pup. That too was sports talk radio speculation. I think it was Rizzo et al that speculated on it. They said that they said he "could" be put on the PUP....if his condition was not improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 The price point is a major deal breaker. No one is going to pay 16 mil for Griffin, nor should they... It is a really nice pipe dream though. Get Griffin for a mere fraction of what Washington paid; one late first round pick and one third round pick. Imagine the Browns getting the player Skins fans were hoping for....it's a really nice thought until he tears his ACL opening graham crackers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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