Browns149 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 So now we get to pick and choose who is allowed to be discriminated against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 So now we get to pick and choose who is allowed to be discriminated against? We certainly hope you are enjoying your visit to 2015. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 What if she refused service to a Muslim? is it ok then? mike huckabee would put on a parade for her and get her up on stage so he could tell her what a good decent american christian she is while simultaneously eating her box out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 http://abc7chicago.com/news/arrest-made-in-murder-of-pregnant-pastors-wife/1095890/ Don't worry, they hate Christians too. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 BEING Jewish is not a behavior, most certainly not a matter of obscene perversion. Choosing a religion is a behavior, but all religious folks choose a religion. That doesn't make it a valid point of serious moral offense. Any law that forces folks to condone perversion, is a bad, unConsitutional law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 BEING Jewish is not a behavior, most certainly not a matter of obscene perversion. Choosing a religion is a behavior, but all religious folks choose a religion. That doesn't make it a valid point of serious moral offense. Any law that forces folks to condone perversion, is a bad, unConsitutional law. So choosing to be Jewish, which is a religion, is not a behavior...but choosing a religion by all religious folk is a behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Allowing a gay or lesbian couple to marry? = Perversion Mutilate the genitals of a new born baby boy with a sharp knife? = That's just being Jewish. Brit milah and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 http://abc7chicago.com/news/arrest-made-in-murder-of-pregnant-pastors-wife/1095890/ Don't worry, they hate Christians too. WSS How do you know this crime was committed strictly because she was a Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Allowing a gay or lesbian couple to marry? = Perversion Mutilate the genitals of a new born baby boy with a sharp knife? = That's just being Jewish. Brit milah and all that... Nigeria has just outlawed female genital mutilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 How do you know this crime was committed strictly because she was a Christian? I don't. So it's okay then? I have no idea the method these likely Obama supporters use in order to select which homes to invade and which women to be raped and murdered. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Nigeria has just outlawed female genital mutilation. Good for them. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I don't. So it's okay then? I have no idea the method these likely Obama supporters use in order to select which homes to invade and which women to be raped and murdered. WSS What did you do, just search "Christian murder" in Google? What makes the killers "likely Obama supporters"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 What did you do, just search "Christian murder" in Google? ☆ nothing so painstaking. Somebody posted it on facebook. Just happened to be the minister's home.☆ What makes the killers "likely Obama supporters"? ☆Between 95 and 97% last two presidential elections. Why do you ask? ☆ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/07/14/obama_calls_for_fundamental_criminal_justice_reforms_in_major_naacp_speech.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 He's calling for the reform of nonviolent offenses steve, pump the brakes there nancy.....he's not calling for leniency on people who rape and murder in the midst of home invasions against Christians...or whatever narrative you were dj'ing yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 He's calling for the reform of nonviolent offenses steve, pump the brakes there nancy.....he's not calling for leniency on people who rape and murder in the midst of home invasions against Christians...or whatever narrative you were dj'ing yesterday. I think you missed the point but... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 What did you do, just search "Christian murder" in Google? ☆ nothing so painstaking. Somebody posted it on facebook. Just happened to be the minister's home.☆ Could you please provide the link that refers to this? I looked at both Pastor Davey Blackburn's and Resonate Church's (Pastor Blackburn's church) FB's, and I've not seen any mention of this crime being perpetrated solely because they were Christians on either one. What makes the killers "likely Obama supporters"? ☆Between 95 and 97% last two presidential elections. Why do you ask? ☆ 71% of Americans identity as being Christian ( http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/ ) so it's more likely than not that this was a case of Christian-on-Christian violence, if we're going to go the statistical route. Also, the suspects are aged 18 and 21, which precludes one for voting for Obama in 2012, and precludes both for 2008, so it is dubious at best to claim that they were "likely Obama supporters". Statement from Davey Blackburn on the murder of his wife: http://resonateindianapolis.com/2015/11/statement-from-davey-blackburn/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 End christian-on-christian violence #christianlivesmatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Statement from Davey Blackburn on the murder of his wife: http://resonateindianapolis.com/2015/11/statement-from-davey-blackburn/ Sorry, provide a link? I thought I did. And why would they be likely to support President Obama? Seriously? (even so that really doesn't make much difference in this case, I just put it in to fuck with you guys. ) WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Statement from Davey Blackburn on the murder of his wife: http://resonateindianapolis.com/2015/11/statement-from-davey-blackburn/ I could never be that type of Christian to see my wife brutally raped and killed and say all things work for good to them that love God. Never. What happened is NOT the work of God. If it were I would want no part of a God like that. If there is no doubt to the guilt of those involved I would have them before a firing squad in less than 30 days. That would be justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I could never be that type of Christian to see my wife brutally raped and killed and say all things work for good to them that love God. Never. What happened is NOT the work of God. If it were I would want no part of a God like that. If there is no doubt to the guilt of those involved I would have them before a firing squad in less than 30 days. That would be justice. Is that not one of the main features of christianity, an omniscient omnipotent god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Is that not one of the main features of christianity, an omniscient omnipotent god? I think you're talking about the way Democrats feel about Obama. Christians have free will. Most of them anyway. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Wait, so "man lived in fish" = praise the lord but "a really bad thing happened to me" = there is no god! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Is that not one of the main features of christianity, an omniscient omnipotent god? The bible says satan is god of this world. 2 Cor. 4:4 (because of Adam's sin). There are works of God and works of the devil. I don't praise God FOR everything but I praise God in spite of everything. I don't give thanks for obvious works of satan but I still praise God in spite of them knowing there is a better future planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 The bible says satan is god of this world. 2 Cor. 4:4 (because of Adam's sin). There are works of God and works of the devil. I don't praise God FOR everything but I praise God in spite of everything. I don't give thanks for obvious works of satan but I still praise God in spite of them knowing there is a better future planned. have you ever thought or considered that just maybe...you've been forcefed an incredibly rudimentary, simplistic and childish explanation for the universe? I mean it was your god that had people sacrificing animals to him cause he allegedly enjoyed the smell of burning animal flesh. Now does that sound like the, if I may use Transformers cannon for a moment, does that sound like the "all spark" to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I think you're talking about the way Democrats feel about Obama. Christians have free will. Most of them anyway. WSS They have free will within the box of Christianity, just like muslims have free will within the box of allah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I could never be that type of Christian to see my wife brutally raped and killed and say all things work for good to them that love God. Never. What happened is NOT the work of God. If it were I would want no part of a God like that. If there is no doubt to the guilt of those involved I would have them before a firing squad in less than 30 days. That would be justice. It's probably the only way the guy doesn't slip into madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Sorry, provide a link? I thought I did. You provided links to ABC News and Slate, but I was referring to Facebook one which said the wife was targeted specifically because of her religion. When I checked the Pastor's FB, I couldn't find mention of it. I'm not saying it wasn't there; maybe it was posted there earlier, in the heat of the moment, and deleted later on; which is perfectly understandable given the situation. In either case, I'd be reluctant to call it a religious hate crime until more evidence emerges that leads to that conclusion, so I'll reserve my judgement for now. And why would they be likely to support President Obama? Seriously? (even so that really doesn't make much difference in this case, I just put it in to fuck with you guys. ) WSS No, I understood right away that you were not being completely serious, but there are others here on the board that might not have picked up on it as readily and would then proceed to make a...*ahem*..."knee jerk"...response to it, so that's why I posted my counter point. But to answer your question from earlier, no, I do not think it is ok that this woman was raped and murdered, irregardless of whether or not her religion played a role in its perpetration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 People wouldn't be trying to "politicize" that poor womans rape and murder would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 have you ever thought or considered that just maybe...you've been forcefed an incredibly rudimentary, simplistic and childish explanation for the universe? I mean it was your god that had people sacrificing animals to him cause he allegedly enjoyed the smell of burning animal flesh. Now does that sound like the, if I may use Transformers cannon for a moment, does that sound like the "all spark" to you? I understand where you are coming from. The bible does give many of the answers to our questions but they get dismissed as being too simplistic. It is still easier for me to believe in God who is the creator and spoke a universe into being over believing all this came from nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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