jbluhm86 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Oregon standoff spokesman Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum killed, Bundys in custody after gunfight near Burns: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundys_in_custody_one_militant.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/fbi_to_release_video_footage_o.html http://video-embed.oregonlive.com/services/player/bcpid1949055967001?bctid=4728181032001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAPLpuSqE~,a1DdoZJH5WQo4iWaJj1w_CktvJfhQVVG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/fbi_to_release_video_footage_o.html http://video-embed.oregonlive.com/services/player/bcpid1949055967001?bctid=4728181032001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAPLpuSqE~,a1DdoZJH5WQo4iWaJj1w_CktvJfhQVVG Play dangerous games, win dangerous prizes. The guy had a death wish trying to draw on people who already had a bead on him. I am glad that there is footage of it so dummies don't go thinking that they just gunned him down in cold blood. It appeared that they had every intention of just arresting the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So are these guys terrorists yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Still who are they terrorizing? Are you filled with terror? Did they kill a hundred people in town I'm not aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Terrorists terrorize people. The government doesn't count in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So are these guys terrorists yet? Call me when they behead a few hundred men women and children, we'll talk. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Is this all you think about? Never mind, we already know your m.o. It is hilarious how the tolerant and accepting left are so quick to call people they don't like bunch of queers. Way to go Woody. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I wouldn't call them terrorists, but I woul say its fair to call Ammon Bundy and a few others of the group freeloaders and vandals. Most Oregon residents have tired of their "occupation", and I think most other Americans are getting bored of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I wouldn't call them terrorists, but I woul say its fair to call Ammon Bundy and a few others of the group freeloaders and vandals. Most Oregon residents have tired of their "occupation", and I think most other Americans are getting bored of it as well. I think that's the case with just about any group attention whores no matter what their stupid protest might be. They wear thin quickly. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Who really cares what they're called. Dangerous attention whores works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I wouldn't call them terrorists, but I woul say its fair to call Ammon Bundy and a few others of the group freeloaders and vandals. Most Oregon residents have tired of their "occupation", and I think most other Americans are getting bored of it as well. That's fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I thought terrorist was just someone using violence (or the threat of it) for political means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I thought terrorist was just someone using violence (or the threat of it) for political means You did? That's nice. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I thought terrorist was just someone using violence (or the threat of it) for political means Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/terrorism Definition of terrorism in English: noun The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 How many people were intimidated or had violence used against them by the Oregon militia members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Dangerous morons who took over an unoccupied building and accomplished exactly none of their political goals is not what I would call a gaggle of terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Dangerous morons who took over an unoccupied building and accomplished exactly none of their political goals is not what I would call a gaggle of terrorists. you could probably go for 'violent activists' or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 How many people were intimidated or had violence used against them by the Oregon militia members? Well, the cops they tried to pull a gun on I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Well, the cops they tried to pull a gun on I imagine. Then every violent criminal is a terrorist, by that logic. Terrorism is an attack on a way of life, whether it's ISIS or al-quaeda or the taliban, or closer to home the IRA or PIRA or whoever, the attacks of those terrorist groups are against innocent civilians, in the hope of 'terrorising' them in to changing their ways. The bundy's haven't done that, at least to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Based on the definition I posted its doing so for political reasons. There was even definition listed specifically about being against the government. All I'm saying is I don't think its that ridiculous to call them terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Calling them terrorists isn't that far fetched since they tried to "influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion" I don't see why everybody's up in arms about what we call them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Calling them terrorists isn't that far fetched since they tried to "influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion" I don't see why everybody's up in arms about what we call them though. It is important to be consistent, and using different labels can easily direct a narrative for or against a group of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I don't have a problem with calling them terrorists but I have a problem with those like Hillary Clinton who call pro life people terrorists: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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