Clevfan4life Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Also, watching the film on Bosa (draftbreakdown), what jumps out isn't much from Bosa, but Joshua Perry, always seems to be there to make a play. oh pls, go back to camp goff or wherever you came from!!! Perry standing out over Bosa, puhhhhleesssseeeee. Obvious troll is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Man O man....homer statement or not....if we could just have an all Ohio State draft. it could basically fix every thing.....and turn this team around.... Offense = Zeke - RB.....Thomas & Miller - WR....Vannett - TE....Cardale - QB Defense = Bosa -DE....Perry & Lee - OLB....Washington - DT.....Apple - CB Yep....that'd be a nice day.... Homer statement or not, that would be a hell of a start to a rebuilding project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 oh pls, go back to camp goff or wherever you came from!!! Perry standing out over Bosa, puhhhhleesssseeeee. Obvious troll is obvious. Lo, not trying to bash Bosa, he got consistent penetration, basically as expected. I was surprised by Perry, is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I don't really care about that. His reflection is probably about the state of the Browns. Well, it was actually a direct stab at the city, not the Browns..... He said it on a twitter rant 2 years ago, has since said hed love to play for the Browns. Well, of course he's changed his tune....it's draft time....gotta say the right things to get elected.... Where? Oh, it's pretty well known that he said it...no question....it was all over the web for a while.....the exact quote was "Cleveland is a run down dirty hole of a city".... And guys, to be clear, Im not saying dont draft him because he said it.....Im just saying I wish he hadnt, cause for me, taking it back doent change it and I found it to be directly offensive to me and my town.....and Id prefer a player who wants to be here or, at least, has enough class not to speak out like that.....emphasis on "prefer".... Remember how everyone freaked out last year when DeVonte Parkers mom said stuff?....or Bridgewater?....this is the same thing(but worse) Lo, not trying to bash Bosa, he got consistent penetration, basically as expected. I was surprised by Perry, is all. I like Perry too....always around the ball and...maybe? better than Lee..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 There are guys in football who rush as good as Bosa, maybe even run defend as good as Bosa although I think he's been shown to be definitively the best run defender at his position in all of college football............but what I know for a fact is that no one does both like him. He's complete. And why I like his rush style so much is that he doesn't fag his way around the corner, like Kruger does. He attacks the outside shoulder and he carves down the edge. You don't have to run a 4'4 around the 3 point line when you can power edge rush like that. And what that does most importantly is limit the space the QB can step up to. Ideally you have a guy like that on one side and a more speed guy on the other to run down a nimble QB should he decide to spill out instead of up. Roethlisberger has destroyed the Browns for years because we get no inside pressure and our edges get dog walked high....he steps up...spills out to his right.....and finds someone 50 yds downfield. I'm so got damn sick and tired of seeing him do that. I'm so got damn sick and tired of our DC's not addressing that problem. Cincy doesn't have that problem with their 4-3 because those are big fuckin mooks on the line that don't easily get pushed wide. Of course there's always still some room to step up but they've got very good MLB"s that tend to close very quickly. And who don't particularly care for Roethlisberger, that always helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 If you guys paid attention, did you see how active Carolina's DE's are in run defense? Even fucking Allen who's always been primarily a rusher...he's now buckling down and properly holding guys off him and then diving into the play. It makes a difference if a RB has to slough off a big DE on his way through the hole....even just a fraction of a second holdup is all that's needed for these LB'ers these days who all are closing with 4'4-4'5 speed. But if the RB gets through without anyone laying a finger on him, like here in Cleveland.....it makes the LB's job more difficult. It used to be the edges just had to make sure the run play was funneled inside....but that's not enough anymore. OL's are too athletic these days and get to the 2nd level much faster so the LB's get held up on their way to the hole. That's the problem with our run defense....evne when our edges funnel the runs inside, our LB'ers are just way too slow and often hadn't made the right call on which gap to fill. Talent issue scheme issue...some combination of both I dunno. I just know what i'm seeing out of the best defense's in the NFL and it's guys like Miller and Ware if you're running a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 (Bosa on possiilibty of playing in Clevelnad) "Whoever picks at No. 1, if I am lucky enough to go there, Id be happy. It could be anywhere, Id be happy to go. To get to stay in Ohio and get to have the same fan base Im sure it would be awesome, just to grow my brand in Ohio." Its a plus for me. Means hes motivated! Well.... if cultivating one's brand is a coin flip situation, then we are due... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 i'm kind of digging the shrug life..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Well, it was actually a direct stab at the city, not the Browns..... Well, of course he's changed his tune....it's draft time....gotta say the right things to get elected.... Oh, it's pretty well known that he said it...no question....it was all over the web for a while.....the exact quote was "Cleveland is a run down dirty hole of a city".... And guys, to be clear, Im not saying dont draft him because he said it.....Im just saying I wish he hadnt, cause for me, taking it back doent change it and I found it to be directly offensive to me and my town.....and Id prefer a player who wants to be here or, at least, has enough class not to speak out like that.....emphasis on "prefer".... Remember how everyone freaked out last year when DeVonte Parkers mom said stuff?....or Bridgewater?....this is the same thing(but worse) I like Perry too....always around the ball and...maybe? better than Lee..... I was referring to the other part of the post I quoted. "Has since said hed love to play for the Browns." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 As far as cleveland being a dump you got to consider the kids in his early twenties. Compare Cleveland to Columbus and Columbus is a much younger more sprawling city, and much less slum area. Lots and lots more bars and restaurants catering to a young crowd. I'm sure he gives a fuck about Severance Hall, the Cleveland Orchestra or the Museum of Art... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 As far as cleveland being a dump you got to consider the kids in his early twenties. Compare Cleveland to Columbus and Columbus is a much younger more sprawling city, and much less slum area. Lots and lots more bars and restaurants catering to a young crowd. I'm sure he gives a fuck about Severance Hall, the Cleveland Orchestra or the Museum of Art... WSS If the city itself was that big of an issue, Miami would have 20 championships. What the fuck is there to do in Denver or CAR? Are they that attractive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Denver = Weed & Skiing? Carolina = ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 As far as cleveland being a dump you got to consider the kids in his early twenties. Compare Cleveland to Columbus and Columbus is a much younger more sprawling city, and much less slum area. Lots and lots more bars and restaurants catering to a young crowd. I'm sure he gives a fuck about Severance Hall, the Cleveland Orchestra or the Museum of Art... WSS Well, OK, perhaps the only life he has been exposed to is the High street college bar scene. (btw, Columbus has its share of slums) And fyi.....I went to college in Cleveland (law school) and I sure as hell found all the bars I needed to cater to that crowd. And you certainly know from your experience how it used to be. Cleveland had a great young bar scene. I don't know if that is still true....as I am no longer young and no longer in school. But then....he won't be that either. He will be a professional...and he will have to act like a professional....and perhaps he will become a married/family man before too long and his priorities will change vastly and quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 If the city itself was that big of an issue, Miami would have 20 championships. What the fuck is there to do in Denver or CAR? Are they that attractive? Regardless of what you believe, it still is at least somewhat of an issue. If everything else were equal, there wouldn't be many who'd choose Cleveland over, say, Miami. Even if it's 1% of a factor, it's still a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 If the city itself was that big of an issue, Miami would have 20 championships. What the fuck is there to do in Denver or CAR? Are they that attractive? If slums were an issue he sure would stay away from Miami then. Charlotte is like Columbus: bland, but based on a nouveau economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Regardless of what you believe, it still is at least somewhat of an issue. If everything else were equal, there wouldn't be many who'd choose Cleveland over, say, Miami. Even if it's 1% of a factor, it's still a factor. Well, here is the deal......he will go where he is drafted. He doesn't have the choice really. How does he like country music....because to me, 80% says he winds up in Nashville with the Tits. I hope not, but I expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene..... Yea, I think we need someone who will not act like a drunken fool. (even if he is one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene..... kind of a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I hope the last thing our first round pick is worried about is the bar scene..... Yes but the point being made was that he said that Cleveland was a dump or something like that. I just pointed out that to a 20-something millionaire Columbus would probably be more fun. Not that Cleveland is barren. And of course he will play where he gets drafted. He might emulate Joe Thomas and want to be a soul mate of the city and the team. He might be Alex Mack who couldn't give shit number one. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Denver = Weed & Skiing? Mountain hiking (I have been on 95% of the trails in Rocky Mountain National Park), casinos in Blackhawk, Boulder women, big time fishing & hunting and best damn mountain scenery anywhere. And last but not least, a real Superbowl winner. HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yes but the point being made was that he said that Cleveland was a dump or something like that. I just pointed out that to a 20-something millionaire Columbus would probably be more fun. Not that Cleveland is barren. And of course he will play where he gets drafted. He might emulate Joe Thomas and want to be a soul mate of the city and the team. He might be Alex Mack who couldn't give shit number one. WSS The one good thing is that his brother will be playing here in Ohio for the next few years, so he'll at least have that connection, which I think he'd like.....and even with the comment, for some reason I can see him adapting better than Mack did and starting to feel it if things go well for him......after all, we can create some electricity at Browns stadium, even with a shitty team.....and if he turns out to be a great #1 pick, he will be like a god here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Mountain hiking (I have been on 95% of the trails in Rocky Mountain National Park), Cleveland has good hiking....not in mountains though. I have been on 95% of the CVNP hiking trails. casinos in Blackhawk, Casinos in Northfield. Boulder women, All in jeans and flannels and questionable hygiene. big time fishing Lake Erie fishing is bigger time. (and even the streams around here have trout. Steelhead?) & hunting For certain things perhaps. Lot of deer hunting not far from NEO. and best damn mountain scenery anywhere. Not sure about that...very good, but I may go to the Tetons, Lone Pine CA, and North Cascades for equal or better. But sure, very nice. And last but not least, a real Superbowl winner. HA! We are not spoiled by victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 The one good thing is that his brother will be playing here in Ohio for the next few years, so he'll at least have that connection, which I think he'd like.....and even with the comment, for some reason I can see him adapting better than Mack did and starting to feel it if things go well for him......after all, we can create some electricity at Browns stadium, even with a shitty team.....and if he turns out to be a great #1 pick, he will be like a god here..... yes he will be a god. One thing I didn't know is that apparently that Cleveland comment was two years ago? Is that true? I thought he had just said it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Ok...this looks like fun.... Mountain hiking (I have been on 95% of the trails in Rocky Mountain National Park), Cleveland has good hiking....not in mountains though. I have been on 95% of the CVNP hiking trails. Mountain hiking has hills.....screw that.... casinos in Blackhawk, Casinos in Northfield. Poker in my basement....better odds and company... Boulder women, All in jeans and flannels and questionable hygiene. Beautiful woman are everywhere big time fishing Lake Erie fishing is bigger time. (and even the streams around here have trout. Steelhead?) Yep...plus, some of the best Steelhead right at the end of my street(Grand River) or my own private stock of Large Mouth and Blue Cats & hunting For certain things perhaps. Lot of deer hunting not far from NEO. Great deer and turkey hunting here....Big game like Bear or Elk?....not so much.... and best damn mountain scenery anywhere. Not sure about that...very good, but I may go to the Tetons, Lone Pine CA, and North Cascades for equal or better. But sure, very nice. My last trip to the springs afforded me a great view of the mountains.....burning...... And last but not least, a real Superbowl winner. HA! We are not spoiled by victory. Ok....so there's that.....but Elway?....quite a price to pay..... yes he will be a god. One thing I didn't know is that apparently that Cleveland comment was two years ago? Is that true? I thought he had just said it...... Yeah...it was just over a year ago, during his freshman season....I plan to let him off the hook IF we draft him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Once was a nice Bar & Grill at the mouth of the Grand... forget the name, but had some good meals there. The place may have flooded a while back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Once was a nice Bar & Grill at the mouth of the Grand... forget the name, but had some good meals there. The place may have flooded a while back... Lot of possibilities for that....and a lot of floods down there where the river meets Lake Erie(annually actually).....pickle bills has been one of the more popular spot for years.....and, back in 06 or 07 I think, we had a hundred year flood that wiped out a lot of homes and businesses that have never been rebuilt.....was something else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Pickle Bill's was it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Pickle Bill's was it! Yep....still there....great if you like Crab Legs and Lobster(im not a seafood eater myself).....that place has been through a zillion disasters and keeps coming back.....the have added a floating dining room that you can pull your boat up to and it has broken away and gone out to sea...HA!....plus its burned and has been flooded countless times.....resilient owners I guess.....insurance must cost them a fortune though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Ok...this looks like fun.... Yeah...it was just over a year ago, during his freshman season....I plan to let him off the hook IF we draft him..... wtf, they made it seem like he had just said it on twitter. What was the context of it then? He wasn't coming out after his freshman season so what was even the whole reason to be talking about cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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