Tour2ma Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Interesting approach by the writers over at Dawgs by Nature...Ranking the Top 25 Most Important Players on the Cleveland BrownsBy Chris Pokorny @DawgsByNature on Feb 13, 2016, 7:11phttp://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/2/13/10986020/ranking-the-top-25-most-important-players-on-the-cleveland-brownsCumulative DBN RankingsTop 25 Most Important Browns Players1 LT Joe Thomas2 #2 Draft Pick3 WR Josh Gordon4 CB Joe Haden5 C Alex Mack6 LG Joel Bitonio7 RT Mitchell Schwartz8 #32 Draft Pick9 FS Tashaun Gipson10 NT Danny Shelton11 RB Duke Johnson12 WR Travis Benjamin13 TE Gary Barnidge14 OLB Nate Orchard15 RG John Greco16 OLB Paul Kruger17 CB K'Waun Williams18 DE Desmond Bryant19 ILB Karlos Dansby20 DE John Hughes21 ILB Christian Kirksey22 CB Pierre Desir23 OG Cameron Erving24 WR Andrew Hawkins25 CB Ifo Ekpre-OlomuOther players who received at least one nomination in someone's top 25 were OLB Barkevious Mingo, DT Jamie Meder, P Andy Lee, S Ibraheim Campbell, RB Isaiah Crowell, DT Xavier Cooper, CB Justin Gilbert, QB Josh McCown, WR Terrelle Pryor, ILB Craig Robertson, SS Donte Whitner, LS Charley Hughlett, and K Travis Coons.
TexasAg1969 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 I'd put Barnidge a bit higher and Kruger a lot further down. Rarely saw anything but slowness and inability to set the edge out of Kruger.
Mudfly Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Interesting approach by the writers over at Dawgs by Nature... Interesting is a good word to describe that list.....honestly cant agree with much of it.....
Canton Mike Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 SMH, but maybe it was done close to closing time at the saloon! Mike
Flugel Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Interesting approach by the writers over at Dawgs by Nature... Ranking the Top 25 Most Important Players on the Cleveland Browns By Chris Pokorny @DawgsByNature on Feb 13, 2016, 7:11p http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/2/13/10986020/ranking-the-top-25-most-important-players-on-the-cleveland-browns Cumulative DBN Rankings Top 25 Most Important Browns Players 1 LT Joe Thomas 2 #2 Draft Pick 3 WR Josh Gordon 4 CB Joe Haden 5 C Alex Mack 6 LG Joel Bitonio 7 RT Mitchell Schwartz 8 #32 Draft Pick 9 FS Tashaun Gipson 10 NT Danny Shelton 11 RB Duke Johnson 12 WR Travis Benjamin 13 TE Gary Barnidge 14 OLB Nate Orchard 15 RG John Greco 16 OLB Paul Kruger 17 CB K'Waun Williams 18 DE Desmond Bryant 19 ILB Karlos Dansby 20 DE John Hughes 21 ILB Christian Kirksey 22 CB Pierre Desir 23 OG Cameron Erving 24 WR Andrew Hawkins 25 CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu Other players who received at least one nomination in someone's top 25 were OLB Barkevious Mingo, DT Jamie Meder, P Andy Lee, S Ibraheim Campbell, RB Isaiah Crowell, DT Xavier Cooper, CB Justin Gilbert, QB Josh McCown, WR Terrelle Pryor, ILB Craig Robertson, SS Donte Whitner, LS Charley Hughlett, and K Travis Coons. Thanks for sharing that! There's quite a few I agree with. Unfortunately, we might lose some to free agency while father time has put some best football in the rear view mirror forothers. The good news is I can bump up the Meder motor in there now as well as the following: Cooper, Lee, Robertson, Coons, McCown, Campbell, Crow and Pasztor. I have a feeling Horton's defense is going to give Orchard a perfect niche once he gets enough reps to be cozy. Just a gut. Counting on Josh Gordon almost seems like standing in quick sand. He never got the message in college regardless of how many different programs thought it would be different after josh promised them it would be. There's no telling when his suspension ends or when the next time we're going to read poor Josh just hung around with the wrong guys again. Even worse, his brother is his worst influence for a guy that just can't say no. I'd rather trade him to the God complex in Dallas for more draft picks and snag a kid like Doctson at #32 or even defensive help. We got him back when we were 6-4 in 2014 and we only won 1 of the last 4 games in spite of how talented he is. The only thing consistent with him is how often he can't help the team that gave him his most recent chance. Some will say he only had 1 beer. If so, how does he fail a water soluble drug test some 12-24 hours later? Make sense? It shouldn't.. What should matter is who he continues to surround himself with after all these chances he's received. He's refusing millions of $ for it as we speak so I'm not as confident as others about him. I always adored the idea of him but the reality has become a pretty big trend history is trying to get is to realize here...
One Post Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Good read but I totally disagree with using draft picks in even the top 53 let alone the top 25. You have to be a really bad football player for someone to assume even a player that hasn't played a down in the NFL is better than you are.
Tour2ma Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Posted February 14, 2016 Interesting is a good word to describe that list.....honestly cant agree with much of it..... Totally agree... When a 6th OL makes the list, but your starting SS does not??? Ditto for no Tramon Williams, but both K'waun and Desir show??? Also disagree with limiting consideration of draft picks to Rnds 1 and 2... if Rnd 3 or 4 got the votes to make the top 25, so be it. I could see at least the 3rd Rnd making it easily.
Flugel Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 It's hard to do an accurate list at this point but this topic is a great lead into a good football discussion. When I tried to do something similar to this list a few weeks back - what made it tough was knowing what FAs we're going to lose. Also, get this folks - we're changing defenses again. Surprise! That's getting as predictable as forecasting rain in Seattle. Even worse, this former summer school major included Kruger on my list so I had to find my id ten forms. Once I put my reading classes on - here's what that form looked like: ID10T. Let's see some ideas of who we would prefer to see in there.
Mudfly Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 My biggest question(among many) would be is this ranking directly attributed to the 2016 season??.....if so, how could it not include our QB?
Tour2ma Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Posted February 14, 2016 My biggest question(among many) would be is this ranking directly attributed to the 2016 season??.....if so, how could it not include our QB? It does... His name? Pick #2... ... which is not a great name for a QB...
Taco918 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 It does... His name? Pick #2... ... which is not a great name for a QB... Better than pick 6. Sorry, low hanging fruit.
Richiswhere Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Paul Kruger at 16? Then this list should be top 15 most important players!
Tour2ma Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Posted February 14, 2016 Better than pick 6. Sorry, low hanging fruit. DOH! Sometimes low-hanging is the funniest...
Flyin J Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Totally agree... When a 6th OL makes the list, but your starting SS does not??? Ditto for no Tramon Williams, but both K'waun and Desir show???Haha and Ifo at 25
Mudfly Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Yeah....so many things to pick on.....Ifo and Desir are more important than Williams and Gilbert?..... This years 2nd round pick is more important than both of last years firsts?....or the development of Orchard?... How do Pryor and Hughlett even get an honorable mention in the bottom group?? Honestly.....could go on and on and on.....
Tour2ma Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Posted February 14, 2016 lol... Struck me that this Board could do a better job... not only in the list, but also the comments. Some of the rationales are hilarious; others are merely thin. If you haven't peeked at the spreadsheet, take a look.
hoorta Posted February 15, 2016 Report Posted February 15, 2016 Interesting is a good word to describe that list.....honestly cant agree with much of it..... Erving? You telling me Erving? El Stinko Mucho? Me & Flugs are just going to have to disagree about Gordon. You can't put draft picks in the top 25 until they actually play.
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