darren15 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Browns and Benjamin close to new deal ...Mack will opt out but may return....other news Browns to cut Bowe and Hartline and reinstate Gordon and sign Sanu http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/22/report-browns-close-to-re-signing-travis-benjamin/ Dawgs By Nature @DawgsByNature 1h1 hour ago Dawgs By Nature Retweeted Ian Rapoport Amazing what new leadership can do. Dawgs By Nature added, Ian Rapoport @RapSheet #Browns C Alex Mack is expected to opt-out of his contract, sources said. But a return to Cleveland on a new contract is a real possibility 1 retweet3 likes Reply Retweet 1 Like 3 More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Just read that on Benji... Question is... at what price? Mack out then in makes no sense to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Browns and Benjamin close to new deal ...Mack will opt out but may return....other news Browns to cut Bowe and Hartline and reinstate Gordon and sign Sanu http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/22/report-browns-close-to-re-signing-travis-benjamin/ Dawgs By Nature @DawgsByNature 1h1 hour ago Dawgs By Nature Retweeted Ian Rapoport Amazing what new leadership can do. Dawgs By Nature added, Ian Rapoport @RapSheet #Browns C Alex Mack is expected to opt-out of his contract, sources said. But a return to Cleveland on a new contract is a real possibility 1 retweet3 likes Reply Retweet 1 Like 3 More It would be nice if they get the Benjamin thing done and come up with a new contract for Mack. If the Mack thang doesn't get done - we could be looking at this line: Thomas, Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Schwartz (or FA/Erving). Last year, I couldn't wait to see what Michael Bowie had for at least a couple minutes... Maybe Joe Thomas can convince both Mack and Schwartz to stay. What's the over/under on how many times Ghoolie just threw up in his mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 It would suck if the Browns didn't pick up the 2nd year of Hartline's contract. He was the best receiver on the team last year behind Travis Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 That would suck if Brian was cut. Injuries and the lack of a running game really hurt him being that effective intermediate threat we needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Benji would be a great change to a FO that gets it. After seeing other FO's build young's like of Skrine, TJ Ward & Sheard than let them walk still young. Get rrrr Done.. Mack you wanted the steering wheel, Well here it is. Spin it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hart ties up $3mm in cap... If we sign Jones, I think he's expendable. Then again, what do I know... I wanted to trade Hawk last year and look how much we'd have missed him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 I like Hartline and will be annoyed if he goes. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 As regards Hartline, I will say this. We were 3-13 last season. Expect change, some of which may not be comfortable for many Fans, but keep an open mind. Status quo will NOT lead to improvement. Change MUST happen. I'm just gonna sit back, trust the new guys, & see what happens. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just read that on Benji... Question is... at what price? Mack out then in makes no sense to me... RE: Mack ?? Raise + more guaranteed money maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Doesn't LeBron James do that almost every year? Out out and resign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Mack needs to stay on the team. He has this analytics stuff down better than even the FO. He could have a dual role, C and FO advisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Mack needs to stay on the team. He has this analytics stuff down better than even the FO. He could have a dual role, C and FO advisor. So he'd be Front and Center in the new regime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 thoughts on Sanu? would he play hard for us? no doubt he would take a lot of ribbing, playing for the "clowns" of his current division. but, can he play at a high enough level to be dominant and help restore some credibility and legitimacy to the present day Browns? Troy, Heath, Gresham, Heap, Rey, Reed...all gone. Big Ben, Steve Smith, james Harrison...old. all lost a step. Dalton is mediocre he just has AJ Green. Gordon is coming back. now is the time. the division is ours. we weakened the biggest long-term-division-threat by taking Hawk and their OC Hue. if coach so pleases grab up Sanu too. who knows, maybe when AJ's contract is up he can entice him as well. Flash Gordon across from Sanu w Gabe/Hawk/Welker in the slot? T Benj on pass plays? with that lineup we don't even need Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 thoughts on Sanu? Well he has a nice arm, I believe he has 2 or 3 TD passes. I think one was against the Browns. would he play hard for us? no doubt he would take a lot of ribbing, playing for the "clowns" of his current division. Maybe, but Kruger, Dansby, Whitner, & Hartline came here. If he thinks he's got a chance to be "the guy" he'll sign. but, can he play at a high enough level to be dominant and help restore some credibility and legitimacy to the present day Browns? Troy, Heath, Gresham, Heap, Rey, Reed...all gone. Big Ben, Steve Smith, james Harrison...old. all lost a step. Dalton is mediocre he just has AJ Green. Gordon is coming back. now is the time. the division is ours. We can only hope. I'm happy we got an experienced HC. we weakened the biggest long-term-division-threat by taking Hawk and their OC Hue. if coach so pleases grab up Sanu too. who knows, maybe when AJ's contract is up he can entice him as well. Flash Gordon across from Sanu w Gabe/Hawk/Welker in the slot? T Benj on pass plays? with that lineup we don't even need Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Shefter reporting that Mack opting out, but "a new deal in Cleveland is a real possibility" makes me a LITTLE excited. For some reason, I have a difficult time believing this, but who knows? If we somehow keep Mack, Thomas, AND Scwartz? Man... And it appears that Benji is all but signed, but I'd still like to see it get done. I'm probably grasping at straws, but if we can somehow get Sanu, and it's been reported that we want him, then our WR's could look completely different. And by different...I mean GOOD. To be honest, I'm a little concerned about Josh Gordon. I haven't read any statements by any of our coaches that indicate Gordon is coming back, but there is a good chance our coaches have been instructed NOT to comment on him at all. I have to believe that all our coaches are secretly praying every day that Gordon is coming back. He's THAT important. Gordon opens things up for both Barnidge and Benji, but also our running game as well. Gordon would probably be the only player on our roster that would scare opposing defenses. Cmon Josh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 As far as Mack is concerned I'll be happy to have him if he is all in and returns to form. Paying top dollar to a second tier performer whose only interest in the game is the paycheck really doesn't appeal to me. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Article is out saying we haven't pursued Gip very hard... https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/tashaun_gipson_is_preparing_to.html RE: Mack ?? Raise + more guaranteed money maybe? Sure, but renegotiation does not require separation. Extensions and restructures are announced any and all the time. There are no restrictions on talking to players under contract. we weakened the biggest long-term-division-threat by taking Hawk... lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Doesn't LeBron James do that almost every year? Out out and resign? This really would belong on the Cavs board, but I'll explain....... The NBA salary cap is going up for the next season WAY up. Reason why there wasn't much major player movement at the trade deadline, and teams are clearing cap space like mad. LeBron's next one year deal is going to have a significant raise. LBJ is a totally different case than Mack- he can call his own shots. A superstar basketball player affects win-loss way more than any football player ever could. The Cavs and Warriors would nose dive without James or Curry. LeBron is rapidly approaching GOAT status, and if not there, he's certainly getting into the conversation. If he keeps putting up points at anywhere near his current rate, he'll pass Kareem in around 6 seasons. + Him and Oscar Robertson are the only players in the top 20 in both points & assists. Just MHO, he's more versatile than Jordan, but he'll never catch him in titles. Kevin Durant is a UFA after this season, and it's going to cost a team the Moon to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement. Benji is saying he will test the FA waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement. Benji is saying he will test the FA waters. Well... the FA sim got this one right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsFan4Evr Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25493235/travis-benjamin-to-test-free-agency-after-talks-with-browns-break-down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 David Carr lists Benjamin as his No. 1 WR F/A https://t.co/fkLVzscRvv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Jimmy Donovan on WKYC reported tonight that Benji & the Browns were unable to reach an agreement. Benji is saying he will test the FA waters. Should we be surprised? Our analytics guys analyzed, and came to the conclusion Benji was asking too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 David Carr lists Benjamin as his No. 1 WR F/A https://t.co/fkLVzscRvv that will very much suck if we lose him to the Oakland Raiders. Carr was my 2014 QB preference, if i'm the Raiders FO i'm definitely listening to my franchise QB's reasonable requests.... Sashi you low-balling motherfucker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Again, If Haslem had Sashi in his pocket as GM. Farmer needed to be fired after 11-15-15 week 10 @ Shitsburg going into our bye the following week. That leaves 7 weeks to get Mack, Schwartz & Benji possibly locked up in 2015. Instead we follow the same pattern of Ward, Skrine, & Sheard. All young prime targets in FA's, get FA ranking & $ evaluations & here we are. Of course it's all about money at this point.. There's always next year .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Ward, Sheard, Skrine, Cameron, Mack, Schwartz, Gipson, Benjamin - there's a list of legitimately decent-to-great players that we've let walk or are in the process of letting walk. It's fine to say we're building through the draft, and it's the right way to go, but you've got to then keep the players you draft and develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Should we be surprised? Our analytics guys analyzed, and came to the conclusion Benji was asking too much. Well that's promising. So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Well that's promising. So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it. WSS My uncle used to work on coding TI calculators. They had/have an office in my hometown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Well that's promising. So after the next couple 3 and 13 seasons somebody can stand at the podium and hold up a ratty old Texas Instruments handheld calculator and blame it. WSS Well it's obvious then. This is really a bid to form a new company called Cleveland Instruments in which all products are guaranteed to miscalculate every time. Millions will be bought and given to people for birthday and Xmas gag gifts with colors of orange and brown. I'd buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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