VaporTrail Posted February 23, 2016 Report Posted February 23, 2016 The primary purpose of the laws that exist is to shame women into backing out of an abortion. The closure of clinics is shameful, and in blatant disregard for the majority opinions of medical professionals.
BaconHound Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 I like John Oliver but unfortunately like John Stewart while the message is correct it has ZERO chance of penetrating the bubble. This forum is a great indicator of what our society has become. The outspoken minority screams at the top of their lungs how liberalism and socialism are destroying this country while the power brokers do just enough moralizing to keep the middle/lower class, religious, voter happy.
OldBrownsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 The democrats mantra about abortion used to be safe, legal and rare but that has devolved into abortion at any time for any reason.
BaconHound Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 The democrats mantra about abortion used to be safe, legal and rare but that has devolved into abortion at any time for any reason. I don't think you watched the video.
calfoxwc Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 I don't think you are being serious about the dem's matra. Obamao has always favored total complete any time abortion, including pba. and many dems are.
OldBrownsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 Just saying Cal the democrats public statements had been for years that abortion should be safe, legal and rare but it has devolved now into what they wanted all along abortions at any time for any reason. Democrats Push Envelope on Abortion, Drop Insistence That It Be Rare Democrats voiced their unequivocal support for abortion rights at the party’s convention in Charlotte, a sharp departure from two decades of modulating their views on the issue with the phrase “safe, legal, and rare.” The word “rare” was sliced out of the party platform as Democrats embraced “safe and legal” abortion as an integral part of women’s health.. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/15/democrats-push-envelope-on-abortion-drop-insistence-that-it-be-rare.html
BaconHound Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks for proving my point fellas
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Posted February 24, 2016 I don't think you watched the video. Of course he didn't, John Oliver told him not to
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Posted February 24, 2016 I don't think you are being serious about the dem's matra. Obamao has always favored total complete any time abortion, including pba. and many dems are. Prove this?
gftChris Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 Prove this? Stop being so emotional and resorting to facts when cal's only trying to bring level headed outrage.
OldBrownsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 I think there is a whole lot of evidence to make the claim that Obama is the most pro abortion president we have ever had. I don't want to get into dueling google searches but just a quick google search on Obama being the most pro abortion president brings up huge amounts of articles to support that claim.
Westside Steve Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 http://www.weeklystandard.com/video-obama-says-hes-pro-choice-on-third-trimester-abortions/article/650524 WSS
Clevfan4life Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 unbelievable that birthing centers aren't required to have hospital admitting privileges. Off the top of my head I know a lot of people that have had potentially serious health issues regarding the pregnancy. Giving birth is far more dangerous for a woman than an abortion unless it's a very late term abortion
Westside Steve Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 unbelievable that birthing centers aren't required to have hospital admitting privileges. Off the top of my head I know a lot of people that have had potentially serious health issues regarding the pregnancy. Giving birth is far more dangerous for a woman than an abortion unless it's a very late term abortion Well it's a lot riskier if you are the baby... WSS
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 unbelievable that birthing centers aren't required to have hospital admitting privileges. Off the top of my head I know a lot of people that have had potentially serious health issues regarding the pregnancy. Giving birth is far more dangerous for a woman than an abortion unless it's a very late term abortion Well, women have been giving birth since the beginning.
Clevfan4life Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 they've also been having abortions too for a very long time, we don't need to discuss those details. In any case, if something goes wrong...which it often does...why on earth would you not want birthing centers to have admitting rights? And you realize that if something goes wrong with the mother the baby usually doesn't make it, right?
Clevfan4life Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 or it comes out hideously deformed.
gftChris Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 Well, women have been giving birth since the beginning. And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process.
Clevfan4life Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 but that was ok, they're just baby chattle anyway.
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 And until relatively recently had a good chance of dying in the process. Its in gods hands.
gftChris Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 Its in gods hands. Then god's a bit of a douche. Now it's in our own hands.
Clevfan4life Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 Its in gods hands. So when folk have heart attacks, negatory on the hospital trip? I mean it's gods hands and all, we shouldn't be fucking with the will of god and whatnot. If he's calling a nucca home he's callin a nucca home.
gftChris Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 So when folk have heart attacks, negatory on the hospital trip? I mean it's gods hands and all, we shouldn't be fucking with the will of god and whatnot. If he's calling a nucca home he's callin a nucca home. Why do you think it costs so much? Going against god's will isn't something to be done lightly.
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 You guys and your outrage. Its funny.
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Posted February 24, 2016 You guys and your outrage. Its funny. You must be trying to play the victim... Typical
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Posted February 24, 2016 I think there is a whole lot of evidence to make the claim that Obama is the most pro abortion president we have ever had. I don't want to get into dueling google searches but just a quick google search on Obama being the most pro abortion president brings up huge amounts of articles to support that claim. And at one point we had the most "pro equal treatment of black people" president too. I'd expect a modern president to be the most pro choice because that is the majority. (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.)
gftChris Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 And at one point we had the most "pro equal treatment of black people" president too. I'd expect a modern president to be the most pro choice because that is the majority. (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.) Yep. People are becoming more pro-choice in general, so it figures that the president also would be part of that trend.
Clevfan4life Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 You guys and your outrage. Its funny. pointing out inconsistency and hypocrisy is not outrage.
Clevfan4life Posted February 24, 2016 Report Posted February 24, 2016 (the term is pro choice btw. No one is hoping women have more abortions. You support their right to make their own decisions.) this right here. But conservatives cannot for the life of them wrap their heads around that concept. Supporting a womans right to do with her body as she chooses is not the same as seeing a pregnant woman walking down the street and yelling at her to get that shit taken care of bitch.
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