Clevfan4life Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Kasich is a short-tempered right wing nut job, someone told him to act like a moderate and hope for the best this election - otherwise he's crazier than the others (except for Cruz, who is by far the craziest) I call bs ed. Kasich is who he says he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I call bs ed. Kasich is who he says he is http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/11/john-kasich-ohio-moderate-voting-record-republican-president-campaign http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/john-kasich-a-jeb-bush-in-jon-huntsman-clothing/ He also likes to yell a lot when he disagrees with people, but we haven't seen that this election. Like when he got pulled over by a cop for failing to slow down or get over for an emergency vehicle (something required under Ohio law) - he called the cop a total idiot several times during a public speech. That's more in line with the real John Kasich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I looked up his stance on Climate change and the accusation he's a "denier" is false and proves to be part of a smear against him by those websites Ed. In his own words he said he knows man can affect the climate but the overall impact needs to be studied and debated but rash knee jerky (Cal troll) measures shouldn't be enacted that kill off jobs. So he's taking a middle right ground. I personally am middle left on the issue....I can work with a guy like Kasich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I saw Kasich a few weeks ago being interviewed by Chris Wallace at FOX. He got annoyed with Wallace and I saw a side to Kasich of anger I hadn't seen before. I don't doubt he can have a temper at times but here is the thing as compared to Trump. Kasich keeps it under control for the most part and does not give in to public displays of anger. Trump when upset should keep off twitter as it usually just gets him into trouble with impulsive tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Trump should have his phone confiscated in all frankness. He kind of reminds me of Manziel during the season when every other week was posting dumb shit of himself doing shit he should know he wasn't supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Trump doesn't even write most of his tweets himself iirc - they're almost all done by other people, though most are directly out of Trump's mouth. People like Hillary have their twitter accounts entirely controlled - most of the time just tweeting a debate answer (during a debate) or segment of a speech (during the speech). Trump's definitely sounds like his own thoughts and words. He has had some pretty good stumpings done on twitter though - and with 1 tweet he can generate an hour of breaking news coverage on every major news network. So my verdict is his twitter usage is also genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Trump should have his phone confiscated in all frankness. He kind of reminds me of Manziel during the season when every other week was posting dumb shit of himself doing shit he should know he wasn't supposed to. The latest tweet from twitter bird....why??? He just comes off looking like a whiner. Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Wow, @CNN has nothing but my opponents on their shows. Really one-sided and unfair reporting. Maybe I shouldn't do their town-hall tonight! 9:34 AM - 29 Mar 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 But again, super delegates haven't decided the nomination before and there's no reason to believe they will now. Hillary's not going to lose the majority pledged delegates anyway, so it's a moot concern - we're not going to find out if they go against Bernie because the people have chosen Hillary (by people I mean middle-aged women and minorities - the college kids who support Bernie decided to stay home and play xbox). If Bernie Sanders wins the New York Democratic primary, some superdelegates vow to back Hillary Clinton anyway Maybe the system really is rigged. At least a half-dozen Democratic superdelegates in New York State who have already decided to support Hillary Clinton said Tuesday they would maintain their allegiance to her — regardless of the results of the Empire State’s primary. Even if Sanders were to win the April 19 New York presidential contest, when a whopping 247 delegates are at stake, every single New York superdelegate reached by the Daily News said they would never back the Vermont senator. “Absolutely not,” Elizabeth Stanley, the chief of staff for Westchester County Rep. Nita Lowey, told the Daily News when asked if she could see “any potential situation at all” resulting in her boss switching her support from Clinton to Sanders. “I would not under any circumstances switch my allegiance from Secretary Clinton to Senator Sanders,” Queens Congressman Gregory Meeks said. The other four New York superdelegates — who can pledge and withdraw their allegiance to a nominee based on their personal preference — also would never pull their support from Clinton, their spokespeople said. They all spoke anonymously for fear of insulting either campaign. The iron-willed insistence of so many politicians and sitting lawmakers already in the Hillary camp to not budge from their support of the Democratic front-runner speaks volumes to the difficulty faced by the Sanders campaign — or any political outsider — in securing the nomination. But that challenge — one that is met by candidates every four years — isn’t merely a product of Clinton having earned so many supporters. It’s also due to the complicated setup of a nominating process that gives weight to the desire of party bosses who don’t have to take into account the expressed desire of Democratic voters. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-superdelegates-largely-back-clinton-sanders-article-1.2581729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 super delegates are unbound - so I don't see why it would make a difference. If he gets the majority of pledged delegates, he'll win. He's not going to do it, though. Clinton will win NY in a landslide, easy win in PA. CA will be close, but if she wins there she'll have the required delegates to lock it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Maybe it's time to send Bernie a few bucks... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 super delegates are unbound - so I don't see why it would make a difference. If he gets the majority of pledged delegates, he'll win. He's not going to do it, though. Clinton will win NY in a landslide, easy win in PA. CA will be close, but if she wins there she'll have the required delegates to lock it up. What is the point of super delegates except for party bosses to put their thumbs on the scale to help get the candidate they want elected get the nomination. What other reason is there to have them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 What is the point of super delegates except for party bosses to put their thumbs on the scale to help get the candidate they want elected get the nomination. What other reason is there to have them? I'm not disagreeing with the fact that they have the ability to do that, but they never have done it. The person with the highest popular vote has always won - that isn't going to change this year. Bernie didn't win with the people - Hillary did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'm not disagreeing with the fact that they have the ability to do that, but they never have done it. The person with the highest popular vote has always won - that isn't going to change this year. Bernie didn't win with the people - Hillary did. It goes back to party bosses who want an insurance policy in case a candidate gets the nomination they either don't like or they think is a terrible choice and likely to lose in November and to get the candidate they want in place. If the republicans party bosses had this in place you would probably see Jeb Bush still in the race leading Trump in delegates. The party bosses play a different game though in republican primaries they load up their candidate Jeb Bush with over a hundred million and usually in the past this has guaranteed a win for their guy as other candidates don't have the money to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 What is the point of super delegates except for party bosses to put their thumbs on the scale to help get the candidate they want elected get the nomination. What other reason is there to have them? I would imagine it's so that in a tight race, the DNC can choose the candidate they feel best gives them a chance of winning and retaining the presidency for future terms. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that they have the ability to do that, but they never have done it. The person with the highest popular vote has always won - that isn't going to change this year. Bernie didn't win with the people - Hillary did. They won't go against a big win in the popular vote, but if the vote is close, they will give it to Hillary. Bernie needs to win in a relative landslide (by hundreds of delegates) or he will lose, is my guess. Though, I doubt we'll get to see it play out because Hillary seems to be limping across the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 It goes back to party bosses who want an insurance policy in case a candidate gets the nomination they either don't like or they think is a terrible choice and likely to lose in November and to get the candidate they want in place. If the republicans party bosses had this in place you would probably see Jeb Bush still in the race leading Trump in delegates. The party bosses play a different game though in republican primaries they load up their candidate Jeb Bush with over a hundred million and usually in the past this has guaranteed a win for their guy as other candidates don't have the money to compete. I know, I'm just saying they never had to use that insurance policy - and that isn't going to change this year. If Bernie managed to win (he already lost) then the super delegates would swing his way because otherwise they'd literally split the party in half. Bernie just isn't good enough to beat Hillary, he's a pussy - he repeats his talking points so much and has failed to appeal to the demographics who actually show up and vote (in most places) He did well all things considering - it's Hillary's turn and she has support from literally everybody. The biggest money in politics back her, the white house backs her, the media backs her. She's just such a deceptive, fake, snake that nobody is excited about. It'll be a tough battle for Trump as he'll have even more people against him than he does now - but that'll just make it more satisfying when he beats the Clinton machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Fortunately the democrats never seem to learn Hillary Clinton is a horrible candidate but their alternative is a self described socialist. All I heard was a coronation for Clinton coming into this election and unlike the GOP with 17 candidates only a handful decided to run against Clinton. I think Biden would be winning now if he had gotten in the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 BTW, the trumpet has welshed on his pledge to support whoever wins the nomination if it's not him. Using a completely-unexpected-get-out-clause of 'I don't want to support anyone who attacks me personally' - as if he would never do that, and did not expect personal attacks in this campaign. Closer and closer to a brokered convention -> not Trump -> independent run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 BTW, the trumpet has welshed on his pledge to support whoever wins the nomination if it's not him. Using a completely-unexpected-get-out-clause of 'I don't want to support anyone who attacks me personally' - as if he would never do that, and did not expect personal attacks in this campaign. Closer and closer to a brokered convention -> not Trump -> independent run. Welshed? Hey isn't that a slur? Like Japped Out, Indian giver, N***** rig etcetera? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 the Welsh are people too... Good people. But a few of them may welch on their promises or debts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 the Welsh are people too... Good people. But a few of them may welch on their promises or debts..... Yeah Chris you can't blame the untrustworthiness of all Welshmen on the actions of a couple Neer do well blokes from Cardiff ... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Yeah Chris you can't blame the untrustworthiness of all Welshmen on the actions of a couple Neer do well blokes from Cardiff ... WSS Actually you can, sorta, that's where the word comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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