Donte Whitner released

[darren15]

Anyone left in the building ?

 

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-release-DB-Donte-Whitner/fb2410b5-df6b-4902-8635-d43bb4c457cf

[Hoodums19]

The only mediocre vetran left is Desmond Bryant. Wth is he still on the team?

[Guest]

Good move. He's done. Abraham and Poyer can start and we'll see what is out there in the draft.

 

Z

[MLD Woody]

We're going full youth movement

[gumby73]

Your Right Z, Done. Just don't understand stringing these guys out so long like Dansby? So much for those new 4 Jersey Sales, just leave the names off them

[darren15]

Donte Whitner's tweet

 

love you Cleveland. My plan is in a different place. Their playing MONEYBALL now! Be blessed!

 

 

Anyone see this as a sign it is Jalen Ramsey at 2 ?

[Hoodums19]

Donte Whitner's tweet

 

love you Cleveland. My plan is in a different place. Their playing MONEYBALL now! Be blessed![/size]

 

 

Anyone see this as a sign it is Jalen Ramsey at 2 ?[/size]

Dear god I hope so

[Guest]

Donte Whitner's tweet

 

love you Cleveland. My plan is in a different place. Their playing MONEYBALL now! Be blessed!

 

 

Anyone see this as a sign it is Jalen Ramsey at 2 ?

Nope.

 

Z

[One Post]

Don't understand this move at all. A team needs a veteran at the Safety position. Having two young Safetys is very uncommon.

[D Bone]

Another player that had a huge part in going 3-20 with the NFL's worst defense....... C YA

[gumby73]

Another player that had a huge part in going 3-20 with the NFL's worst defense....... C YA

Along with highest paid Defense in the league. Per tweet Their playing Moneyball Now, sounds like a restructure or else? We took else.

 

[htownbrown]

I wanted Campbell to get more time on the field anyways. Good luck Mr. Hitner.

[calfoxwc]

can't stay a young player forever. The Browns need more speed on defense.

[hx214]

I was surprised he wasn't gone the same day Dansby was. he looked really bad at times last year... He and Dansby were suppose to be defensive leaders and we all know what the defense looked like last year. Dazed and Confused.

 

One pay day left Whitner. Go get it!

[Tour2ma]

Understand the move... not so sure about the timing.

[tiamat63]

Beyond being on the Browns, he's a Clevelander, a Buckeye. A local boy that wanted to come home.

 

Hard to hate him for wanting to come back and help the hometown squad. Best of luck, Dante.

[miktoxic]

don't like the move. only person left in the secondary with any real knowledge of the game is haden. whitner was a great vet and loved cleveland. if you follow him on instagram the guy is constantly in the gym working out, every day.

 

whatever. this is going to be a long rebuild and i'm sure a lot of people will be gone that we won't want to see leave. this will cost a lot of people their jobs if it doesn't work and the browns will be a junk pile of scrap metal and even worse off than what we had a year ago.

[Kvoethe]

Really reworking the roster for when they become the London Browns in 2019

[joedawg69]

I wish Donte all the best and he was a great guy with heart but we have plenty of options at safety. We may need more work at CB though. Ramsey may be a good pick but I am not sure I would call him BPA at number 2.

[darren15]

Really reworking the roster for when they become the London Browns in 2019

 

We need to draft a defensive line of Beefeaters before that happens

 

perfect in a 3-4

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=line+of+beefeaters&espv=2&biw=1598&bih=918&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinmIjrvvLLAhWIQyYKHXCHCE8Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=HGe5FAJxwZxnnM%3A

[Westside Steve]

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/04/cleveland_browns_donte_whitner_4.html

 

It's still a fan based game so all this shit better have a positive result.

 

WSS

[Guest]

I think Horton got around to watching film from last year.

 

I will always appreciate the native Clevelander coming back and trying to help us. It makes me sad that we can't ever put anything together for these guys that come back and want to play for us.

 

Hopefully this "down to the bones" rebuild is a successful one and the the last one for a long, long time.

 

Fans are all bitter or numb.

 

Zombo

[One Post]

Understand the move... not so sure about the timing.

They space them out so we can have something to discuss before the draft gets here.

[One Post]

I think Horton got around to watching film from last year.

 

I will always appreciate the native Clevelander coming back and trying to help us. It makes me sad that we can't ever put anything together for these guys that come back and want to play for us.

 

Hopefully this "down to the bones" rebuild is a successful one and the the last one for a long, long time.

 

Fans are all bitter or numb.

 

Zombo

I hope you're right about Horton. This means he has say so instead of being a meat puppet.

[miktoxic]

i don't know horton's record as a DC and there's prob a reason why. i mean you hear or speak of great defenses and ray horton doesn't come to mind.

 

would guess this is an analytic move and the cuts are going to be lean and mean and close to the bone. the bone being JT and haden. to most fans they are the untouchables.

[Mudfly]

While I pretty much expected this and kind of understand the purge, without signing any FA's, the #'s are starting to trouble me......a quick count has about 8 starters and 11 regulars gone, but only 1 starter type player signed.....sooooo, how do we come up with 11 starter quality players from a single draft???....are all the second stringers(who couldnt start on a 3-13 team) suddenly gonna blossom?....or is Shashi gonna pick 11 good players in his first draft?......

 

and if we are cutting decent players with high salaries(whitner, dansby)......why not cut the shitty players with high salaries too?(Kruger, Mingo)??

[LogicIsForSquares]

While I pretty much expected this and kind of understand the purge, without signing any FA's, the #'s are starting to trouble me......a quick count has about 8 starters and 11 regulars gone, but only 1 starter type player signed.....sooooo, how do we come up with 11 starter quality players from a single draft???....are all the second stringers(who couldnt start on a 3-13 team) suddenly gonna blossom?....or is Shashi gonna pick 11 good players in his first draft?......

 

and if we are cutting decent players with high salaries(whitner, dansby)......why not cut the shitty players with high salaries too?(Kruger, Mingo)??

Kruger may be on the chopping block in due time. They could see Mingo as a young guy who they can turn around.

 

I fully expect this to be a multiple draft rebuild.

[Tour2ma]

I fully expect this to be a multiple draft rebuild.

 

That's been a given... what we need to brace for is a multi-year tear-down.

 

Had not occurred to me before... at least not in these terms... but what we are looking at here is a distillation process. Whitner is just another roster spot better spent on a UDFA with a chance of being here in year four of the process. Same applied to Dansby.... Same will be applied to vets TBD...

 

In terms of roster turnover 2016 will be the most extreme year, but 2017 may not be far behind. How far behind will depend upon the initial state of our player selection process. A process that should improve with time.

 

So now we cram the kettle full of "talent", turn on the heat of a season and see what bubbles up. Look for something along the line of one-third "players", one-third "promise" and one-third fodder.

 

Rinse and repeat in 2017 and we just may have the basis for our future in place.

 

One last thought... winning early is the antithesis of the process...

[LogicIsForSquares]

 

One last thought... winning early is the antithesis of the process...

I think that will be hard for some to grasp. Keeping around older vets that could have dragged out an extra win or two would just have the team in purgatory. Middling where they can't get prime talent in the draft and still not being competitive enough to go into the playoffs.

[wargograw]

While I pretty much expected this and kind of understand the purge, without signing any FA's, the #'s are starting to trouble me......a quick count has about 8 starters and 11 regulars gone, but only 1 starter type player signed.....sooooo, how do we come up with 11 starter quality players from a single draft???....are all the second stringers(who couldnt start on a 3-13 team) suddenly gonna blossom?....or is Shashi gonna pick 11 good players in his first draft?......

 

and if we are cutting decent players with high salaries(whitner, dansby)......why not cut the shitty players with high salaries too?(Kruger, Mingo)??

 

I agree that the numbers are scary, but every game a guy like Whitner starts is one that a young player who is actually part of our future does NOT have under his belt.

 

Personally, and I've said this before, I love that they're doing a true and total tear down and rebuild. Can't be half-in, half-out if you're going to do it the right way. And this is why those expecting a good team in 2-3 years are delusional. I have zero expectations until year 4 or 5, but I am excited about what we'll have on our hands at that time. Jimmy just needs to show the testicular fortitude to see the course all the way through.