bbedward Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Trump didn’t really spend that much of his own money. According to CNN Money in early March, Trump had only spent 250,000 of his own money while ‘loaning’ his campaign the rest. This allows him to pay himself back for the rest with campaign funds he’s raised, which I’m sure he fully intends to do, especially if he loses. Perhaps that’s why Trump hasn’t spent any money he’s raised on ads yet? Maybe he wants to make sure he has enough of the money he’s raised to pay himself back. Trump forgave over $47M in campaign loans in June That kills the phony hit job that he'd just pay himself back. Not that anybody ever self-funds their campaign, but I'm sure whoever in Trump's legal team have some good reasons to give to your own campaign in the form of a loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Trump forgave over $47M in campaign loans in June That kills the phony hit job that he'd just pay himself back. Not that anybody ever self-funds their campaign, but I'm sure whoever in Trump's legal team have some good reasons to give to your own campaign in the form of a loan. Related to this NBC wrote a nice hit job a the time Trump announced he was forgiving the loans. In any other case the media would wait until the standard FEC filing for their "proof" because that's just how it works - but because Trump, they write a hit job to appeal to the people who don't know any better/how campaign finance reporting works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Trump forgave over $47M in campaign loans in June That kills the phony hit job that he'd just pay himself back. Not that anybody ever self-funds their campaign, but I'm sure whoever in Trump's legal team have some good reasons to give to your own campaign in the form of a loan. You are right Ed the story I quoted was wrong and Trump did forgive the 47 million in loans however he is not self funding and never did totally self fund even in the primaries.....he lists on his website he is self funding in the general election which is not correct: Self FundingI am self funding my campaign so I don’t owe anything to lobbyists and special interests. I will bring the greatest negotiators and smartest operators to Washington to help Make America Great Again! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-funding_us_579f8fb7e4b08a8e8b5ed586 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 You are right Ed the story I quoted was wrong and Trump did forgive the 47 million in loans however he is not self funding and never did totally self fund even in the primaries.....he lists on his website he is self funding in the general election which is not correct: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-funding_us_579f8fb7e4b08a8e8b5ed586 Stop quoting the Huffington Post. Trump paid by far and large the majority of the bill for the primary race. His general election funds so far have by and large came from himself and small donors. The last couple of general elections have cost the victor $1B Trump is raising the majority of his money like Sanders while also dipping into his own pocket. -- Don't think you can criticize Trump for his fundraising given his opponent is the queen of large dollar special interest money, but the cuckington post never ceases to surprise me. Clinton sends emails begging for $1 donations to get the average donation down to give the illusion she has real grass roots support like Sanders did and Trump does -- I don't believe Trump makes any claims he's entirely funding his campaign, as HuffPo would lead you to believe. The people should love where his money's coming from versus his opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 "Self Funding I am self funding my campaign so I don’t owe anything to lobbyists and special interests. I will bring the greatest negotiators and smartest operators to Washington to help Make America Great Again!" Right from Trump's website and he is not self funding...so it doesn't matter if it comes from the Huffpo or whatever it is just a fact Trump is not telling the truth about self funding...go to Trump's website and read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 "Self Funding I am self funding my campaign so I dont owe anything to lobbyists and special interests. I will bring the greatest negotiators and smartest operators to Washington to help Make America Great Again!" Right from Trump's website and he is not self funding...so it doesn't matter if it comes from the Huffpo or whatever it is just a fact...go to Trump's website and read it. He's still giving money to his own campaign, he doesn't say "entirely self funding" as he once did. Its nice bait for a Clinton campaign attack though, they would get absolutely shredded in response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 He's still giving money to his own campaign, he doesn't say "entirely self funding" as he once did. Its nice bait for a Clinton campaign attack though, they would get absolutely shredded in response. I give Trump credit for shelling out millions of his own dollars to go into politics unlike the Clintons who went from "dead broke" to having 100 million dollars enriching themselves with politics...but for Trump to say he is self funding on his website today when he is holding fundraisers and raising money is misleading at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I don't think the polls are wrong but we are still in mid August and we have the debates yet. Also I think there is a good chance Wiki Leaks has more to come with Clinton's emails and Clinton's unpopularity even among many democrats should help Trump. The demographics though are terrible for Trump among blacks,Hispanics,women and young people.....really bad Stuart I don't think the polls are wrong either. What I meant when I said I hoped they were wrong was that the poll numbers for the first time will not reflect how people will actually vote come November. As I said its a weird election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 The last couple of general elections have cost the victor $1B Clinton sends emails begging for $1 donations to get the average donation down to give the illusion she has real grass roots support like Sanders did and Trump does that's what I'm getting at BB- I doubt Trump will come close to $1 billion. I'd love for Hillary to send me a request for money in a prepaid envelope- I could load it up with assorted small flat heavy objects. Stuart I don't think the polls are wrong either. What I meant when I said I hoped they were wrong was that the poll numbers for the first time will not reflect how people will actually vote come November. As I said its a weird election. IMHO, all those polls can't be wrong. What's weird is, in living memory for about 95% of the voters- they've never had to choose between two incredibly unlikable candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 ...People think they're going to sit there and talk for 1 hour + on policy and details, that's not how presidential debates work... And that, right there, is the problem with political debates in the US, and why we find ourselves stuck with these two colossal fuck-up's today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 WHOA: Its no wonder Trump is losing with numbers like these! I just dont get this. Every major 2016 presidential campaign has spent more money on TV ads than Trump! Bradd Jaffy ✔ @BraddJaffy Total ad spending: Clinton campaign: $61,000,000 Jill Stein: $189,000 Gary Johnson: $15,000 Trump campaign: $0http://nbcnews.to/2aWpsjt 8:44 AM - 16 Aug 2016 Exactly two months ago, Hillary Clintons campaign went up with its first general election TV ads in battleground states, and in that time it has spent $61 million over the airwaves, while pro-Clinton outside groups have chipped in an additional $43 million. Thats a combined $104 million in total ad spending for Team Clinton. But in that same time frame, Donald Trumps campaign still hasnt spent a single cent on a general-election ad, with two pro-Trump outside groups coming to the rescue with $12.4 million over the airwaves. Thats a nearly 9-to-1 advantage in ad spending. Oh, and get this: The Green Partys Jill Stein ($189,000) and Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson ($15,000) have spent more on ads than the Trump campaign ($0) in this general election. What in the world is Trump doing? Hes way down in the polls and hasnt spent a dime on TV ads?Its like he doesnt want to win. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/08/16/trump-to-air-first-tv-ads-of-general-election-campaign/ It begins faggots. Two amazing speeches by Trump, rolling out the ads. Time to get ready for the landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted August 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 that's what I'm getting at BB- I doubt Trump will come close to $1 billion. I'd love for Hillary to send me a request for money in a prepaid envelope- I could load it up with assorted small flat heavy objects. IMHO, all those polls can't be wrong. What's weird is, in living memory for about 95% of the voters- they've never had to choose between two incredibly unlikable candidates. Obama vs McCain. Obama vs. Romney. Both were worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/08/16/trump-to-air-first-tv-ads-of-general-election-campaign/ It begins faggots. Two amazing speeches by Trump, rolling out the ads. Time to get ready for the landslide. Trump must have been impressed with Cruz's campaign as he keeps hiring those who worked for Cruz's campaign (Conway being the latest). Actually one of the better moves he's made. Cruz's campaign ran circles around Trump's in the primary constantly causing Trump to whine and yell he was being cheated when he was actually being outsmarted by a better campaign who knew the rules. So Trump has made some better hires at this late stage of the campaign who are coming aboard a flailing campaign.....should help but it is a little late in the game and campaign shake ups at this point only confirm what the media has been saying about the campaign being in meltdown mode which Trump denied. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 that's what I'm getting at BB- I doubt Trump will come close to $1 billion. I'd love for Hillary to send me a request for money in a prepaid envelope- I could load it up with assorted small flat heavy objects. lol... never gone to that extreme, but have often mailed back torn up offers/requests of all sorts to the senders... Trump must have been impressed with Cruz's campaign as he keeps hiring those who worked for Cruz's campaign (Conway being the latest). Actually one of the better moves he's made. Cruz's campaign ran circles around Trump's in the primary constantly causing Trump to whine and yell he was being cheated when he was actually being outsmarted by a better campaign who knew the rules. So Trump has made some better hires at this late stage of the campaign who are coming aboard a flailing campaign.....should help but it is a little late in the game and campaign shake ups at this point only confirm what the media has been saying about the campaign being in meltdown mode which Trump denied. Like I said in another thread, Kelly Ann is a formidable Spokesperson, but to head an organization? No track record there... On the other hand the Org apparently is not that big. One barely functional office in Florida? Inside three months of the election? in a battleground state? As Steve said, "get ready for the landslide." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Even if Clinton wins I can't see how anyone could be excited about this crook and her sex offender and fellow crook husband winning the White House. Four more years of running up the national debt, anemic economy and back to renting out the Lincoln bedroom to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Crook? Not proven in either case despite everything spent on Whitewater, Travelgate, etc. The Lincoln bedroom as a B&B? Bad form and not a practice I would tolerate, but one that benefited the DNC and Bill's reelection campaign, not the Clinton's personally. Sex offender? No one was underage... Offensive? In the case of Monica, yes. Possibly Jennifer as well. To the extent that either represented sexual harassment... or even in Monica's case, "star worship" exploited. As for the debt... it was falling the last time a Clinton was in the White House... Bill and Newt made a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Roger stone and Robert Morrow are about to release a new report, and the Hillary Clinton campaign is already scared! The book, entitled The Clintons’ War on Women, goes into graphic detail about Bill Clinton’s decades of sexual assault and alleged rapes. This news could remind voters just how dangerous the Clintons are and spell doom for Hillary’s campaign. According to the authors, Clinton’s first alleged rape was Eileen Wellstone, at age 19. In England, Clinton sexually assaulted her after they met at a bar near Oxford. Bill Clinton admitted having sex with her but “claimed it was consensual.” The victim’s family didn’t want to pursue the case, and a report filed at the time by a State Department official was ignored by superiors. Apparently, the State Department didn’t want a Rhodes Scholar to have a rape charge. For 41 years, Hillary Clinton has worked tirelessly to discredit and destroy women like that. Since 1982, she has been hiring private detectives to look into their lives and find anything that could embarrass them. Hillary once told private detective Ivan Duda to give her the name and addresses of all of Bill’s girlfriends, so she could “get rid of all these bitches he’s seeing.” More than once, Hillary knew about Bill’s rapes as he was committing them: This is the same woman who was allegedly fully aware of Bill’s 1978 alleged rape of campaign volunteer Juanita Broaddrick in real time. As we reveal in The Clintons’ War on Women, according to former Clinton insider Larry Nichols, Hillary came running into the Clinton HQ and said, “You won’t believe what the motherf___r [bill] just did. He tried to rape some bitch!” That blockbuster quote is just one of many things in the book that the MSM has carefully tried to keep out of your eyesight. Juanita Broaddrick was alleged raped so severely that he nearly tore off her upper lip, then raped her a 2nd time. Reportedly, Bill’s words were before he started the crime, “My God, I can do it again.” As Juanita described: As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying “we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill.” At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, “Everything you do for Bill.” You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering. Just how many Clinton sex assaults were there? Here is a list of other alleged rapes that are now coming back to haunt Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign: * In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. * In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ”came on” to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students; *Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton’s gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape; * From 1978-1980, during Clinton’s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was “who’s next?” One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor’s hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening; * Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. “I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn’t even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room.” * Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her. * Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment. * Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation’s capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton’s hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run. * Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton’s leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant’s legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault. * Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public. http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/every-clinton-sex-assault-victim/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Ironically if Hillary Clinton does win her serial sex offender husband Bill will be titled as "the first gentleman"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I thought it was "first dude"... ... but I heard a good one the other day that escapes me ATM... And, OBF, that article is approaching it's first birthday. I doubt folk are waiting for the proverbial other shoe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 lol... never gone to that extreme, but have often mailed back torn up offers/requests of all sorts to the senders... Like I said in another thread, Kelly Ann is a formidable Spokesperson, but to head an organization? No track record there... On the other hand the Org apparently is not that big. One barely functional office in Florida? Inside three months of the election? in a battleground state? As Steve said, "get ready for the landslide." Me? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 No, not you... the other Steve... AKA Ed... or bb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 My name's not Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I'm sure I will feel silly when someone explains this side-splitting, gut-buster, knee-slapper to me... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Never hear it before? It was a one-trick bit by an otherwise forgettable comic that sprang to mind while clearly up my name brainfart. The guy popped up on one show repeatedly for a period of time in the 60's (?)... may have been Laugh-In... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Never hear it before? It was a one-trick bit by an otherwise forgettable comic that sprang to mind while clearly up my name brainfart. The guy popped up on one show repeatedly for a period of time in the 60's (?)... may have been Laugh-In... To my old timer recollection this guy originally became famous in a beer commercial in the 70's. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zjehb_you-can-call-me-ray-1970s-tv-commercial_tv?GK_FACEBOOK_OG_HTML5=1 yep I was right^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 lol... good job... Woke up an old brain cell o that I can of mine that will hopefuly be put to better use now. Is "Natural Light" even still a thing? Appears so... "Natty" even has a facebook page... and a 47% rating on beeradvocate.com. Here's a review: In an attempt to understand the popularity of this beer in my neighborhood I decided to try one. Pours well into a glass which in hindsight seems ridiculous. CLear light straw color with little head that disappears quickly. My terrible nose picked up a sour like character from the fragrance. Tastes like a water that has gone off, that's all that comes to mind when I drink this beer. Feels like a hard carbonated water, not something I was hoping for. At under $2 for a 24oz It will work but not something I would look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Oh I remember the Ray J Johnson routine. I owned the Ace Trucking Company album in its day. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Damn... you're good... I'd forgotten Ace Trucking as well. Ace Trucking Co. is a comedy science fiction series that featured in the comic 2000 AD from 1981 to 1986. Created by writers John Wagner and Alan Grant and artist Massimo Belardinelli, it followed the misadventures of a space trucking company headed by Ace Garp, a pointy-headed alien who spoke in a kind of futuristic CB radio slang. The title was lifted from a 1970s improvisational comedy group whose membership had included Fred Willard, Patti Deutsch, Michael Mislove, George Memmoli, and Bill Saluga. I'll go with buried under a pile of The Firesign Theatre... and shrouded in a cloud of smoke... as my excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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