Browns149 Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Since "W", the Reps lost with a war hero, and an idiot women on his side. Then a rich guy, no one liked. And now they are about to lose again with a rich guy, that most people don't like. Are the Reps even trying to win? If this is some kind of plan, to lull the USA against the Dems, then I guess the Reps are on the 16 year plan....... BRILLIANT!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 "about to lose again" Disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 the dems lost with a rich guy...gore. they lost with another rich guy - kerry. stupid op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 You have to admit the Republican party is at a distinct disadvantage this election at least at this particular time time. One reason is that it's hard to fight the free shit gang and those that don't pay taxes don't care how high they are. Second it's hard to fight the media who are going to filter every piece of news through their own liberal prism. Imagine if Cleve and Woody were running for office and Cal and Die Hard controlled the media. Third deliverables who were so outraged about money and politics don't care at all that a Democrat is receiving truckloads of dirty money. Four, many of the minorities the Democrats except as a block vote support the crimes of other members of their race. At least two of their biggest constituent groups are at the lowest end of the economic, educational and productivity scale. To paraphrase: you'll never go broke betting against the good sense of the American public. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 The presidential electoral map is really looking bad for any republican. Huge states like New York and California are firmly held by democrats. Most of the northeast is solid blue. Troubling are blue states that are staying blue while former red states are turning blue. States the republicans formerly could win are not looking good anymore like Colorado and Virginia. Traditional red states like Georgia and Arizona now in play for the democrats. I don't see any blue states flipping to red, even after 8 years of Obama and the democrats running a lying crook like Hillary Clinton for president. The trends and future for republicans are bleak. There are too many people on government assistance who vote democrat now. Obama has seen to it that the rolls of those on government assistance has increased on his watch. Who will these people vote for, those who want to cut spending which means entitlements or those who will keep the entitlements flowing? It's easy to play class warfare like the dems play but it is destructive (they don't care as long as they win elections), socialism sounds good on it's face, but the reality of socialism is exactly like Thatcher said "you eventually run out of other people's money". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Since "W", the Reps lost with a war hero, and an idiot women on his side. Then a rich guy, no one liked. And now they are about to lose again with a rich guy, that most people don't like. Are the Reps even trying to win? If this is some kind of plan, to lull the USA against the Dems, then I guess the Reps are on the 16 year plan....... BRILLIANT!!!!!!! The country is such that you were accused of racism to not vote for the dingleberry that currently resides in the white house. So I'm not surprised he won. I don't care what people think but the average person is frightened of being called a racist. I'm sure the Democrats crowed after clinton saying the republicans could never win the white house again, all but breaking their own arms patting themselves on the back and how did that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Georgia will not vote for a democrat lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Are the Reps even trying to win? Stuart That Republican primary lineup gave you a black, a woman, a Hispanic, moderates, a hard line conservative, a libertarian, a non politician....what else could the Republicans offer? If Jesus was in the line up it wouldn't matter because no one believes in Jesus anymore. Could have anyone in that 16 candidate lineup beaten Hillary? I think Trump has the best hope OBF is right ...too many on government assistance. The only thing that has a remote chance of trumping "free stuff" is Trump, pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Georgia will not vote for a democrat lol Even if Clinton does not win Georgia if the republicans are forced to defend a red state like Georgia and put precious money and resources there instead of toss up states that alone is a win for the democrats. Clinton Looks to Expand Map in Georgia and Arizona http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-looks-expand-map-georgia-arizona-n626296 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Well that's why the founders wrote the constitution to give voting rights only to property owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 The polls obviously aren't calling the working class people who are ready to take their country back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Stuart That Republican primary lineup gave you a black, a woman, a Hispanic, moderates, a hard line conservative, a libertarian, a non politician....what else could the Republicans offer? If Jesus was in the line up it wouldn't matter because no one believes in Jesus anymore. Could have anyone in that 16 candidate lineup beaten Hillary? I think Trump has the best hope OBF is right ...too many on government assistance. The only thing that has a remote chance of trumping "free stuff" is Trump, pun intended. They could offer someone that people want to vote for. None of the people that ran this time, falls in that category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Even if Clinton does not win Georgia if the republicans are forced to defend a red state like Georgia and put precious money and resources there instead of toss up states that alone is a win for the democrats. Clinton Looks to Expand Map in Georgia and Arizona http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-looks-expand-map-georgia-arizona-n626296 Trump is up +1 in Michigan according to new Reuters/ipsos poll Trump is not going to lose states like Arizona and Georgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Trump is up +1 in Michigan according to new Reuters/ipsos poll Trump is not going to lose states like Arizona and Georgia If Trump can pull of the election it will be in spite of his poorly run campaign and Hillary Clinton being such an awful candidate herself. After predicting Romney would win in 2012 I gave up on predicting presidential elections but I do think those who are counting Trump out right now are very premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 If Trump can pull of the election it will be in spite of his poorly run campaign and Hillary Clinton being such an awful candidate herself. After predicting Romney would win in 2012 I gave up on predicting presidential elections but I do think those who are counting Trump out right now are very premature. Trump has pretty much transformed his campaign the last 2 weeks, he's tied in some national polls again and winning pretty significantly a bunch of new Florida polls, the Michigan one is great, etc. Kasich is a bitch who should be campaigning for him in Ohio, but he'd rather have Clinton because the people he works for want that In FL he has the governor's support, and sitting senators support at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Trump has pretty much transformed his campaign the last 2 weeks, he's tied in some national polls again and winning pretty significantly a bunch of new Florida polls, the Michigan one is great, etc. Kasich is a bitch who should be campaigning for him in Ohio, but he'd rather have Clinton because the people he works for want that In FL he has the governor's support, and sitting senators support at least. Kasich is gearing up for another 2020 presidential run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 I'll campaign against kasich. on a national level, he's just a milktoast. On a state level, he's a good gov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 "It is everyone else's fault!" Or maybe the Reps could just learn and adapt. Drop the Tea Party ultra-conservative baggage that is holding you down. People don't want to vote for Clinton, and they had either Cruz or Trump as competition. Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 I'll campaign against kasich. on a national level, he's just a milktoast. On a state level, he's a good gov. Curious how you can campaign against Kasich (who you call a good gov) without even knowing WHO the opponent is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 "It is everyone else's fault!" Or maybe the Reps could just learn and adapt. Drop the Tea Party ultra-conservative baggage that is holding you down. People don't want to vote for Clinton, and they had either Cruz or Trump as competition. Come on. Of course the tea party isn't really ultra-conservative that's just the way it's described by those on the left and there's probably nothing conservatives can do about that. Also if someone has deeply held beliefs that abortion, for example, is a terrible thing at least in certain circumstances, as do you if I recall correctly then, accepting it so a political party can attain power is kind of useless isn't it? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 And you've heard the old joke democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 "It is everyone else's fault!" Or maybe the Reps could just learn and adapt. Drop the Tea Party ultra-conservative baggage that is holding you down. People don't want to vote for Clinton, and they had either Cruz or Trump as competition. Come on. I switched to the republican party decades ago because of the differences in social issues and later came on board with conservative thinking on economic issues. Both parties are made up of coalitions such as the dems having the trial lawyers and unions and the republicans having Christians and business as part of their coalition. Christians are not the majority in the republican coalition but they represent a significant portion, many millions of voters. The republicans need them to win elections and outside of presidential elections the republicans have done quite well in the House,Senate and state legislative offices. My thoughts are whether it is the tea party, or Christians or anyone that makes up the republican coalition today they only hurt the republicans when they insist republicans take positions that are not positions the majority of the country take. One example is Planned Parenthood. I hate PP and about all it stands for but if 70 percent of voters do not want to see PP closed down I am not going to push the republican party to take an unpopular decision which will cost them from winning elections and try to win a battle and lose the war. What I want the republicans to do is to fight on all the moral issues we have consensus from the American people to fight such as partial birth abortions and restrictions on abortion. Again I would love to see abortion outlawed and PP gone but that is not where the American people are on this issue and just like prohibition didn't work any time a minority tries to force it's will on the majority it usually fails. That is why Obamacare is failing and will fail. It never had the support of the majority of Americans to begin with. This was the dems forcing it on the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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