darren15 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Any late round sleepers we should be keeping an eye on at the combine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Any late round sleepers we should be keeping an eye on at the combine ? Jordan Willis KSU DE Edge Rusher - lot of potential there and well coached by Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Good Read on Watson with Josh McCown being one of the contributors...http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/01/11/nfl-draft-deshaun-watson-stock-round-scouting-report-mike-shanahan-josh-mccown-randall-cunningham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I thought that acquiring four first rounders while being able to keep our 2018-19 first round selections was an epic and masterful move... I guess you disagree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Why not just get eight or ten first round picks? sometimes,....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I thought that acquiring four first rounders while being able to keep our 2018-19 first round selections was an epic and masterful move... I guess you disagree... It was. I liked it. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I thought that acquiring four first rounders while being able to keep our 2018-19 first round selections was an epic and masterful move... I guess you disagree...nobody cares about these unrealistic computer fantasy mocks. If this had even the slightest chance of happening in real life, I'd be pumped, but it doesnt. Maybe these fantasy mocks need their own thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Our draft speculation is going to really heat up soon, and it will reach near fever pitch before the actual day gets here. Everybody associated with the Browns understand that this draft might be our most important since our return, and the pressure is undeniable. It's further complicated by the fact we don't have a terrific QB option coming out of college (of course, right??), and our need for a QB has never been more dire. It's an unenviable situation to be in, and we need to knock it out of the park after a less than stellar 2016 draft. I know it takes a couple of years to truly grade a draft, but I don't get the idea that many people are satisfied with how the majority of our rookies played. Let's hope they learn fast and develop faster. As far as the QB position is concerned, my guess for our future goes something like this: We draft Garrett or Allen at one, and then we take a QB with the #12 pick. If two of the top three QB prospects are taken within the top 7 picks, I could see us trading with Carolina to the #8 pick in order to vault over the Bills, who will also require a QB. Additionally, I see us signing Tyrod Taylor to be the veteran starter and hold it down so our rookie can learn. Tyrod won't set the universe on fire, but I'll take him instantly. Hopefully we DON'T have to trade with Carolina, thus keeping our bevy of picks. If we don't have to trade, I see the draft going like this: Garrett, Watson/Kizer, DB/S, and OL with our first four picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I thought that acquiring four first rounders while being able to keep our 2018-19 first round selections was an epic and masterful move... I guess you disagree... epic and masterful on a computer. While you're at it...why not trade our 2025 6th round pick for Aaron Rodgers. Trade our 2026 7th round pick for Khalil Mack as well. Might as well do these things if we're going to live in fantasy land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Nothing wrong with a good fantasy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Serious lack of explosion, questionable hand usage to keep lineman from getting into his pads, no counter move. Just not impressive as a pass rusher, basically. Others have had the opposite opinion. I guess it just goes to show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Your score is: 10562 (GRADE: B+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 8 (CAR): Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio State (A) Round 1 Pick 12: Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (A+) Round 1 Pick 15 (PHI): Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+) Round 1 Pick 29 (G.B.): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-) Round 2 Pick 4 (CHI): Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State ( Round 2 Pick 22 (MIA): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (A+) Round 2 Pick 26 (SEA): Adoree' Jackson, CB, Southern California (A-) Round 3 Pick 1: Desmond King, FS, Iowa (A+) Round 3 Pick 3 (CHI): David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A+) Round 4 Pick 4 (CHI): Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (B+) Round 4 Pick 23 (OAK): Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M ( Round 4 Pick 28 (G.B.): Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B-) Round 5 Pick 3 (CHI): Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (A+) Round 7 Pick 3 (CHI): Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A+) Your Future Picks: 2018 Round 1 Pick 2019 Round 1 Pick Back at it! I drafted this just a couple minutes ago. Gotta watch a movie with the family then maybe I'll try again! But this was a good run... Just - STOP. 95% of us don't care. Again? Give it a freeking rest PG. Back at it! I drafted this just a couple minutes ago. Gotta watch a movie with the family then maybe I'll try again! But this was a good run. Please don't. You are boring us to tears. How about actually talking about some of the players you would like to draft. ^^^^ I thought that acquiring four first rounders while being able to keep our 2018-19 first round selections was an epic and masterful move... I guess you disagree... It's a damn computer game that will never happen in reality. The only draft that really matters is the end of April. FWIW, I just fantasized I'm Kevin Costner, and got a date with Jennifer Garner. nobody cares about these unrealistic computer fantasy mocks. If this had even the slightest chance of happening in real life, I'd be pumped, but it doesnt. Maybe these fantasy mocks need their own thread? I just traded our entire 2018 draft, amazing what I came up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I thought that acquiring four first rounders while being able to keep our 2018-19 first round selections was an epic and masterful move... I guess you disagree... Its just stupid. I mean I thought I could perhaps manage a twofer with Megan Fox and Jennifer Lawrence. About as likely as your scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Tad more realistic? Took a chance on trading down with "da Bears"... Your score is: 10373 (GRADE: B+)Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 3 (CHI): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)Round 1 Pick 12: Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (A+)Round 2 Pick 1: DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (B+)Round 2 Pick 20: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A)Round 3 Pick 1: T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin (A)Round 3 Pick 3 (CHI): Dorian Johnson, OG, Pittsburgh (A-)Round 4 Pick 1: Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (A-)Round 5 Pick 32: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+)Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A-)Your Future Picks:2018 Round 1 Pick2019 Round 1 Pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Tour, do you think there's a legit chance that Kizer will be available at the top of the 2nd round? It could be wishful thinking, but Kizer is the "other" Ohio QB I would like to see in Orange & Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Tad more realistic? Took a chance on trading down with "da Bears"... Your score is: 10373 (GRADE: B+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 3 (CHI): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+) Round 1 Pick 12: Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (A+) Round 2 Pick 1: DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (B+) Round 2 Pick 20: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A) Round 3 Pick 1: T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin (A) Round 3 Pick 3 (CHI): Dorian Johnson, OG, Pittsburgh (A-) Round 4 Pick 1: Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (A-) Round 5 Pick 32: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+) Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A-) Your Future Picks: 2018 Round 1 Pick 2019 Round 1 Pick This is actually pretty close to my perfect draft. Even down to Foreman and Switzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 nobody cares about these unrealistic computer fantasy mocks. If this had even the slightest chance of happening in real life, I'd be pumped, but it doesnt. Maybe these fantasy mocks need their own thread? I don't know if it's unrealistic. The #1 pick can obviously be turned into two first rounders. 12 could be a bit more difficult but not impossible by any means. Will we do it? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Others have had the opposite opinion. I guess it just goes to show. I look forward to being vindicated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 What position does Watt play in our D? If it's OLB, is drafting him contingent on NOT signing Collins? If we sign Collins, I don't want to draft any other LBs at all unless it's Foster or a day 3 flier like a Boulware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I look forward to being vindicated again. What have you done wrong that you have to be vindicated for? Just about all the rankers have this guy...Barnett.. ranked in like the Top 15 players. Do you think they are all wrong and only you are right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Watt is pretty much a consolation prize... I actually think he might look pretty good at MLB... at least in our base 4-3, but if not Kirksey can play the middle for me. Always interesting to see what the sim does when picking for us... I took BLT... the sim took: Round 1 Pick 1 (1) Browns: Deshaun Watson, QB, ClemsonRound 1 Pick 12 (12) Browns: Derek Barnett, DE, TennesseeRound 2 Pick 1 (33) Browns: Sidney Jones, CB, WashingtonRound 3 Pick 3 (67) (CHI) Browns: Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern WashingtonRound 3 Pick 5 (69) (TENN) Browns: Marcus Maye, FS, FloridaRound 3 Pick 17 (81) (WASH) Browns: Tyler Orlosky, C, West VirginiaRound 3 Pick 26 (90) (SEA) Browns: Conor McDermott, OT, UCLARound 4 Pick 10 (106) (CHI) Browns: Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo Basically trade-wise it stood pat thru pick #33 and then went nuts... but landed some good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 What have you done wrong that you have to be vindicated for? Just about all the rankers have this guy...Barnett.. ranked in like the Top 15 players. Do you think they are all wrong and only you are right? More of an ironic kind of comment for going against the 'popular' pick. Or even when my pick isn't the popular one. Do I think they're all wrong? No, not one bit. Just about all?... yep. After the combine I'm willing to bet Barnetts' draft stock takes a serious hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 More of an ironic kind of comment for going against the 'popular' pick. Or even when my pick isn't the popular one. Do I think they're all wrong? No, not one bit. Just about all?... yep. After the combine I'm willing to bet Barnetts' draft stock takes a serious hit. Well, OK, we shall see. I mean, I don't care if we get Derek Barnett, or Dick Barnett (former NBA player), or Dirk Bennett (porn star). Just do the Casey Stengal thing: Get us someone that can play this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Took the Ravens and lapped the field with a plethora of accumulated, 2nd-Round picks... Here's the simsational results for us. Again the sim stands pat thru #33 and then trades up into the 3rd like crazy... 5. Cleveland Browns - 9675 Round 1 Pick 1 (1) Browns: Deshaun Watson, QB, ClemsonRound 1 Pick 12 (12) Browns: Derek Barnett, DE, TennesseeRound 2 Pick 1 (33) Browns: Sidney Jones, CB, WashingtonRound 3 Pick 3 (67) (CHI) Browns: Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern WashingtonRound 3 Pick 5 (69) (TENN) Browns: Marcus Maye, FS, FloridaRound 3 Pick 17 (81) (WASH) Browns: Tyler Orlosky, C, West VirginiaRound 3 Pick 26 (90) (SEA) Browns: Conor McDermott, OT, UCLARound 4 Pick 10 (106) (CHI) Browns: Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo Here's my Cinci result... Your score is: 10818 (GRADE: A-)1. Cincinnati Bengals - 10818Round 1 Pick 29 (G.B.): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-)Round 2 Pick 9: Takkarist McKinley, OLB/DE, UCLA (A)Round 2 Pick 10 (N.O.): Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (A)Round 2 Pick 16 (IND): Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A)Round 2 Pick 18 (T.B.): JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A)Round 2 Pick 23 (NYG): Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (A)Round 2 Pick 29 (G.B.): David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A+)Round 3 Pick 9: Desmond King, FS, Iowa (A+)Round 4 Pick 9: Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida (A)Round 5 Pick 9: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (B+)Round 6 Pick 9: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+)Round 7 Pick 9: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Giving Patrick Mahomes a second look now. I swear I'm watching Vince Young minus the top end, long legged runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Took the Ravens and lapped the field with a plethora of accumulated, 2nd-Round picks... Here's the simsational results for us. Again the sim stands pat thru #33 and then trades up into the 3rd like crazy... 5. Cleveland Browns - 9675 Round 1 Pick 1 (1) Browns: Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson Here's my Cinci result... Your score is: 10818 (GRADE: A-) 1. Cincinnati Bengals - 10818 Round 1 Pick 29 (G.B.): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-) Round 7 Pick 9: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A+) Just no to Watson @ #1, Pocic won't go in the first, and Switzer will be long gone by the seventh. I agree with Gip. if you want to play Fantasy Draft, I'm starting a new thread just for that. This one is already 71 pages. AND I'm closing this thread and starting a new one draft talk #2. Reality only there, talking about prospects, keep the computer games out of it, please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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