VaporTrail Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Let me preface this post. I do not know what is wrong with Hillary. I don't know whether or not she has pneumonia. Pneumonia could help explain why her voice sounds so awful, but I can't talk with her, I can't examine her, I can't take imaging of her, so again, I don't know that she has pneumonia. Some on Twitter are speculating that Crooked Hillary has walking or aspiration pneumonia. IF that happens to be true, at worst, it can kill old people. At best, it's very treatable and she's back to action in a few weeks. If you've read anything I've posted, you know that I don't trust a damn thing that comes out of Hillary camp, and the way they've been trying to brush off her health concerns as nothing doesn't instill any confidence in their announcements today. Walking (or atypical) pneumonia is a fluid infection of the interstitium of the lung, often caused by Mycoplasma pneumoniae. It's called atypical (or walking) pneumonia because unlike most other cases of pneumonia, these folks won't be coughing up copious amounts of yellow mucous, and instead are usually only diagnosed when given a chest xray and the radiograph looks like shit. Normal CXR - lungs are clear, you can see the pulmonary vessels, bronchioles, and a clear heart outline Atypical PNA - Notice how much brighter the pulmonary vessels and bronchioles look and how it spreads out over the entirety of both lungs Lobar PNA - most common type. Note the entire lobe in the top left of the image is consolidated and whiter than the rest of the lung Aspiration Pneumonia is a lobar pneumonia that usually hits the right lower lobe of the lung and is due to impaired ability to swallow food or liquid. This is typically seen in alcoholics or those with dementia - basically people who choke on their food and aren't alert enough to do anything about it, so it sinks to the bottom of their lungs, making a food source for bacteria. If she has atypical pneumonia, then that's probably one of the better outcomes for her. It's communicable and it's treatable. Still not good for a 70 year old to have pneumonia, but better than the alternatives. She'd probably still be dealing with it by the time the debates roll around. If she has aspiration pneumonia, then that's a huge red flag and means she shouldn't be running. This doesn't happen unless there are issues swallowing. In her age group, this is most often due to pneumonia (or she's a raging alcoholic having been married to Wild Bill for far too long). Or it could be something else completely. If so, it's probably not good that their cover story is pneumonia. My lay opinion is that she's looked and sounded like shit for the past year. It will be interesting to see what the campaign releases the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 My dad recently died of lung cancer. The early signs looked something like that. His voice went bad due to a tumor near his vocal chords. A ent guy gave him a shot that helped for a while but... Remember these coughing fits have been going on for months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I've had x-ray confirmed pneumonia twice... It's no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Cough, allergies, heat stroke, pneumonia It's sure progressing quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Fucking Russians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Her opponent questions her health Everybody violently defends her health Has a "heat stroke" in 75 degree weather She's perfectly fine 5 hours later and has a photo with a little girl. Oh yea she was diagnosed with pneumonia Friday. Da fuq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bbedward Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Why the hell would the secret service take an old woman with pneumonia who collapsed to an apartment instead of the ER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Why the hell would the secret service take an old woman with pneumonia who collapsed to an apartment instead of the ER Don't be naive. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jrb12711 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 ^^ I'll give credit where credit is due, that's well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 ^^ I'll give credit where credit is due, that's well done. The Wicked Witch of the West Wing. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bbedward Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I don't think Hillary's campaign could have tanked any harder or faster than it has the past week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 How does a terrible choice win the election? An even worse choice is their competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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One Post Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Idiots guide question. So I can get sick using Ammonia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bbedward Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Idiots guide question. So I can get sick using Ammonia? Nah it's a great cleaning tool, especially when mixed with bleach* * results may vary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Still healthier than RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm trying to wrap my head around why people think this illness thing is a conspiracy...for what exactly? Making her seem like a frail old woman in no way shape or form helps her chances. Seems like the woman has a fairly serious illness, pushed it too far and fell faint. 4 hours later with literally the best doctors money can buy she's back on her feet. She was probably pumped with fluids and all types of shit. Unless do you think the conspiracy is she has a secret vile of life she steals from the souls of children? I'm not saying no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm trying to wrap my head around why people think this illness thing is a conspiracy...for what exactly? Making her seem like a frail old woman in no way shape or form helps her chances. Seems like the woman has a fairly serious illness, pushed it too far and fell faint. 4 hours later with literally the best doctors money can buy she's back on her feet. She was probably pumped with fluids and all types of shit. Unless do you think the conspiracy is she has a secret vile of life she steals from the souls of children? I'm not saying no... We need an expert on the anatomy of lizard people to answer these questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm trying to wrap my head around why people think this illness thing is a conspiracy...for what exactly? Making her seem like a frail old woman in no way shape or form helps her chances. Seems like the woman has a fairly serious illness, pushed it too far and fell faint. 4 hours later with literally the best doctors money can buy she's back on her feet. She was probably pumped with fluids and all types of shit. Unless do you think the conspiracy is she has a secret vile of life she steals from the souls of children? I'm not saying no... Oh horseshit. Remember the John McCain election? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Oh horseshit. Remember the John McCain election? WSS To be honest I'm not sure where you are going with that and how it relates to the question I posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm trying to wrap my head around why people think this illness thing is a conspiracy...for what exactly? Making her seem like a frail old woman in no way shape or form helps her chances. Seems like the woman has a fairly serious illness, pushed it too far and fell faint. 4 hours later with literally the best doctors money can buy she's back on her feet. She was probably pumped with fluids and all types of shit. Unless do you think the conspiracy is she has a secret vile of life she steals from the souls of children? I'm not saying no... Pneumonia is a relatively treatable illness that the campaign has a better chance of brushing off versus something like lung metastases. I think that the pneumonia call might very well be a coverup for something worse. Either way, given her history of blatant dishonesty and her lack of transparency on this issue in particular, (ie. - trying to brush it off like it's nothing) I don't trust a single thing they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Pneumonia is a relatively treatable illness that the campaign has a better chance of brushing off versus something like lung metastases. I think that the pneumonia call might very well be a coverup for something worse. Either way, given her history of blatant dishonesty and her lack of transparency on this issue in particular, (ie. - trying to brush it off like it's nothing) I don't trust a single thing they say. If it wasn't for the video they'd probably still be running with she simply overheated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 To be honest I'm not sure where you are going with that and how it relates to the question I posed. Please. Democrats were screeching to the heavens he was too old too feeble had gone through too much punishment in prison camp. Wouldn't live through the first four years of his administration. Blah blah blah. What your girl has, or says she has, is big memory lapses because of the concussion. So the conspiracy could be they actually believe she is too sick and are pretending that it's only pneumonia. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 If the starting QB is frail, how's the backup look? If that backup sucks, I'm more concerned about the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Pneumonia is a relatively treatable illness that the campaign has a better chance of brushing off versus something like lung metastases. I think that the pneumonia call might very well be a coverup for something worse. Either way, given her history of blatant dishonesty and her lack of transparency on this issue in particular, (ie. - trying to brush it off like it's nothing) I don't trust a single thing they say. Right, I get that angle but plenty of people (to include in this thread) are saying that she looked better that same day and somehow that's "fishy". I don't see how that makes a lick of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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