hoorta Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 He didnt even go over 100. Id say thats a win,c'mon guys who's with me? That bright spot is like admiring the beauty of a tomato plant growing out of a pile of manure. ...some trap game. WE were the game and WE got caught in the trap. Seriously, it could have been much worse. After the first drive of the second half, the Cowboys took the foot off the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 So I didn't watch the game for whatever reason. Was there anything 'new' in the futility? I'm assuming missed tackles, blown assignments in the secondary, failing to contain outside runs etc? Why did we only score 10 points? Were we that bad on O? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Why did we only score 10 points? Were we that bad on O? element of surprise was done after 1st 2 plays of opening drive Chris. 16 yrds to Pryor than 1 nice seam pass to Crow for 44 yrds. Cam gets booted we settle for FG. Running backs lack vision for 45 yrds. 2 more penalties on KO returns after Dallas scores, start's us at 8 & 12 yard lines. Cody stretched the Dallas DB's to Pryor & Coleman once each (missed). Than the Dallas LB/DB's set up camping tent on our dink game for 177 passing..1 of 9 on 3rd down,which we had 13 1st downs total. Our 1 TD started at almost mid-field, for a 10 play drive, similar to a root canal patient of pain. 20 mins of a O shi$-a-thon, on our behalf. Dallas had ball 40 mins..Over-matched in every way,ALL DAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 So I didn't watch the game for whatever reason. Was there anything 'new' in the futility? I'm assuming missed tackles, blown assignments in the secondary, failing to contain outside runs etc? Why did we only score 10 points? Were we that bad on O? The D gave them the ball for 39 minutes...nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 So I didn't watch the game for whatever reason. Was there anything 'new' in the futility? I'm assuming missed tackles, blown assignments in the secondary, failing to contain outside runs etc? Why did we only score 10 points? Were we that bad on O? yeah. tea and crumpets at halftime with ezekial elliot laughing with his mid-drift jersey on calling taylor swift for a date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'm not so bothered by time of possession, personally. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing, but apart from maybe the D being 'gassed', both teams have the same amount of possessions. So if it takes us 2 minutes to score a touchdown, and takes them 10 minutes to score a field goal I'm all good. Oh god...that's the Chip Kelly philosophy isn't it...fuck Anyway, seems like the standard fair for us this season against a legit team. Baltimore has its ups and downs this year, hopefully we catch them on a bad day (and actually hang on to a 3 score lead...). Then draft and sign about 4 new DBs, and a couple of front seven guys. The 'resources' are there to go from worst to not quite as terrible this offseason if we basically ignore the offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Baltimore has its ups and downs this year, hopefully we catch them on a bad day (and actually hang on to a 3 score lead...). to say, but my family annual Amtrak to "Arts, Moe of Hell" place starts at 2AM Thursday. Watched McC do it? but....(late 2 work, again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 WOW! done that trip from nyc down there. oooof. had a guy in our 'trip' who didn't go into the game but stayed on the outskirts at a bar. went in and watched flaco throw 2 consecutive tds and left to meet up with him. 3 rows deep in a baltimore bar. he has a leather ravens jacket. (??). from NY he is. comes out of the bathroom and his jacket is gone. 4th qtr. clock ticking away, bus leaves to the train in T-minus 5 and he's stumbling into the 'wire' hood to try and find the 'guy' that took his coat, drunk as shit. knocking on doors and almost getting shot i pull him onto the bus for him to find out that one our friends had taken his coat cuz he left it out in the alley while smoking Js with these dudes he just bought a 50 off of. one of many times in my life the grim reaper has come this close to snatching my head. ugh. hey what great mammaries though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 So I didn't watch the game for whatever reason. Was there anything 'new' in the futility? I'm assuming missed tackles, blown assignments in the secondary, failing to contain outside runs etc? Why did we only score 10 points? Were we that bad on O? One last thing tells the whole story. 3, count them, 3 lining up offsides by DL within 5 minutes of each other. Linemen were not even watching the ball to see when the snap took place let alone paying attention to where the LOS was located. Junior High "B' teams have more awareness than that. Un-f'n-real!! :excl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 ...some trap game. WE were the game and WE got caught in the trap. Yeah... kinda missed that one didn't I? But negated by not calling the TD's or the final score. minus 1 With the kind of year I'm having in the AFCN, I am not surrendering even the smallest victory... I tried to sell him that way here, but it fell on deaf ears, especially after the doubtful DWI. Ahem... there were a few of us... seeing, if not listening. Many folks here simply did not watch his three-year climb as we did, let alone see it. The jump he made in his Senior year was amazing. Johnny drank and partied his way through college,, Dak made 1 out of character mistake.... Nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 element of surprise was done after 1st 2 plays of opening drive Chris. 16 yrds to Pryor than 1 nice seam pass to Crow for 44 yrds. Cam gets booted we settle for FG. Running backs lack vision for 45 yrds. 2 more penalties on KO returns after Dallas scores, start's us at 8 & 12 yard lines. Cody stretched the Dallas DB's to Pryor & Coleman once each (missed). Than the Dallas LB/DB's set up camping tent on our dink game for 177 passing..1 of 9 on 3rd down,which we had 13 1st downs total. Our 1 TD started at almost mid-field, for a 10 play drive, similar to a root canal patient of pain. 20 mins of a O shi$-a-thon, on our behalf. Dallas had ball 40 mins..Over-matched in every way,ALL DAY That's a pretty good summary... I'd only add that Parkey broke his string of FGs when he nailed that left upright with his 2nd attempt. The couple root canals I've had were nothing in comparison to Sunday. We were "in" this one about as long as we were the Pats game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Ah yeah, the missed FG. What happened? Just hooked it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Ah yeah, the missed FG. What happened? Just hooked it? It was a horribly pulled shank.. the hold looked good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Ah yeah, the missed FG. What happened? Just hooked it? Boinked it off the left goalpost, it was all downhill from there. Particularly galling,the penalties on KOs, D lining up offside X3,and two completely blown coverages on Dallas TDs.If "that's on me" AGAIN Hue- you need a better response than we're playing hard. Ghoolie may well have been right about lack of discipline. Oh, and Erving gets himself kicked out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Yeah I saw the Erving thing. Every cloud and all that. The woeful D is fairly self explanatory - the players are bad - but I think I really need to dive in to coaches tape to understand where it's going wrong on O. It's going wrong to a lesser extent of course, but we're not exactly putting up 40 every sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 The couple root canals I've had were nothing in comparison to Sunday. We were "in" this one about as long as we were the Pats game. At least they load you with a pain killer and give you Vicodin for the rest of the week. We just get to come back for another root canal on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Boinked it off the left goalpost... Shades of Miami, huh? I do think the Fins' goalpost was more in tune tho... but could be my TV sound vs. "live"... You were at both... thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 At least they load you with a pain killer and give you Vicodin for the rest of the week. Not here... can't do opioids. Percocet after I had all 4 wisdom teeth jerked taught me that. Fired off nerve endings everywhere continuously. It was like fireants were continuously crawling all over my extremities with periodic stinging periods just for grins... Fortunately I never needed anything stronger than Ibuprofen after either root job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Shades of Miami, huh? I do think the Fins' goalpost was more in tune tho... but could be my TV sound vs. "live"... You were at both... thoughts? Another bright spot Tour- apparently the Browns have sturdier goalposts. Wasn't nearly as loud, but nearly as disgusting. Or maybe it depends on resonance- where the ball hits the post. Anyhow, IMO that was the beginning of the end. As I told the guy I was with, "we can't keep trading field goals for touchdowns." Turns out we couldn't even do the FG thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'm assuming missed tackles, dude wtf how'd you know if you didn't watch? you psychic bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'm assuming missed tackles, dude wtf how'd you know if you didn't watch? you psychic bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Dak got in a scuffle with a mob at spring break. But I'm sure the DUI was a total one-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 deja vu on the missed tackles... I laughed when TJ got trucked last nite... maybe more like shucked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Haden? Sheard? Mack? Ward? Schwartz? Shelton? Putting something in caps doesn't make it accurate. Haden was a good pick. Sheard had a cup of coffee. Mack was very good. Ward cup of coffee. Schwartz good for a year. Shelton jury is still out. While all their decisions haven't failed they are the WORST franchise in professional sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Not sure what the hell cup of coffee means. Schwartz was good for a couple years - on us we didn't sign him. What jury, where is out on Danny? Year two and he's become one of the best NT in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Not sure what the hell cup of coffee means. Schwartz was good for a couple years - on us we didn't sign him. What jury, where is out on Danny? Year two and he's become one of the best NT in the NFL. Sheard and Ward weren't on the team long enough to be a real impact. Schwartz had a below average 2014, improved in 2015 and then left. Shelton isn't a top 20 defensive tackle in the NFL. Calling him a nose tackle puts him in a very small group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sheard and Ward weren't on the team long enough to be a real impact. Schwartz had a below average 2014, improved in 2015 and then left. Shelton isn't a top 20 defensive tackle in the NFL. Calling him a nose tackle puts him in a very small group. You're fucking with me on all of this, right? Jabaal led the team in sacks and forced fumbles as a rookie alone and was given nods on a couple all rookie publications. 2012 he was solid with 7 sacks. Hurt the year after and still got half dozen and as we know was out of place under Pettine and O'Neil. He was with the team long enough for the Pats to take great interest in him. Likewise with Ward who went to a pro bowl under us and turned into a dependable, middle range enforcer. Both of them should have been retained but weren't. Not their fault. Shelton is #2 in run stop percentage right behind another lane clog monster in Damon Harrison. He's upped his QB pressure numbers and sack count and as it stands IS one of the better NT's in the NFL. As for Schwartz - he graded as a top 15 tackle in the 2014 season as well as 15. I won't continue any further because your posts are rooted in piss poor opinion and clearly dont take common sense or fact into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sheard was an effective player for the Browns for 3 years, not great but effective. 3 years of service is far from changing the course of the franchise. Ward again a 3 year guy who was a very enforcer but again 3 years only. I've gone on record many times here saying that I wish both were on the team and since they aren't not considering them FO wins. You may think drafting players, seeing progress and letting them walk are great FO moves but I don't. I don't see Danny Shelton as a game changer, maybe you do. Meder has similar numbers to Shelton this year with less opportunity. Schwartz is a PFF wet dream, as is every Browns OLine. Funny they never seem to look the same on the field as they do when PFF ranks them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sheard was an effective player for the Browns for 3 years liked sheard a lot as a brown. i like pitt (no not arm pit or stool pit)... especially when wannstedt was the HC. i was hoping sheard would be one of those 'foundation' players along with some other guys that seemed promising in another regime's plans. ehhh...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 What the shit are you reading that somehow implies I think I'm content seeing either Ward or Sheard not on this roster? Was there something in there that said the opposite of me wanting them resigned? Nope... I just checked. So tell me how you arrived at that conclusion. Both are good football players that improve a team. Both should still be with the Browns but that wasn't mine or anybody else's decision to let them go. Sure they weren't franchise changers but no every player is or has to be. Sometimes you just draft good players and there is nothing wrong with that. The backbone of everyteam consists of those kind of guys. Im not the only one that sees Danny as a game changer. What numbers are you referring to that separate Meder from Danny? I'd love to see them because if you're willing to use numbers to support your argument yet discounting Shelton or Schwartz using those same numbers then you have no arguement because youre contradicting yourself. PFF aside you're right, the Browns line doesn't look the same. Funny how it's the right side where the bulk of the pressures and sacks have come from now that Schwartz is gone. Looks waaaaay different, eh? Like I said, you have nothing. You're willing to reject reality and substitute your own. Those people are impossible to reason with. But when Danny gets a pro bowl nod, or at least starts getting more mention on main stream analysts (glorified hype men) I'll make sure to remind you of that just like when DBone said Bosa was average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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