Pumpkin Eater Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Tightening in MI though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I still do. He isn't on the ballot.In case you missed my point. Srein's closer to Bernie Sanders than Gary Johnson is. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 And Florida. Muchas gracias. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Florida for Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 The madman is doing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Simply put, I don't see Trump getting MI, PA, or CO. With hilldawg by my count having a firm 223 right now, those three put her at 268. I think she gets Nevada as well easily, and thus gets the 274 she needs to win. I would be nothing short of baffled if it went down any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 He did it. He memed his way to the White House. It was a god damn pleasure shitposting with you, ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I sit here typing this shocked, but in some way, not surprised. I really thought Trump had no chance. I thought Trump had tweeted and verbose'd his way out this election. Despite all the bad that HRC is, I thought the MSM and the collusive left had done enough to ensure the U.S.'s first female president in HRC. I started watching the news about 7:00 last night, and while the polls closed, the number kept growing for Trump. I stayed up till 12:30 thinking that HRC was going to pull this thing out, I wake up and Trump has won. WOW!Perhaps, just perhaps, the silent Majority of America didn't want to be silent no more. Instead the silence was broken by going out and voting. Perhaps the majority is tired of being ruled by a minority of elitists who conspire with the media and celebrities. Perhaps the silent majority was tired of being bullied by lifetime politicians. Perhaps the silent majority has had enough of political correctness and its weakening effects on speech and liberty. Perhaps the silent majority is tired of a President that appears to put everyone else first outside our own borders. Perhaps the silent majority is tired of corruption and lies. The next four years will be very interesting. I've said it before on you, Trump could be the worst President we have ever seen, or if he plays his cards correctly, he could be the best thing that has ever happened to the Presidency. I will be very interested to see if either party has learned anything from this election and how their approach will change in four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 At the very least, this is a good shock to our political system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 At the very least, this is a good shock to our political system Agreed. This is a vote against the establishment and the MSM. And both parties should take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 That acceptance speech..."we did it, thank you so much to everybody, everybody's amazing, name check was amazing, name check was amazing, we're going to do great things etc" the usual stuff. And then at the end..."Thank you to Mike Pence". Frosty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldBrownsFan Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Congrats to Ed and VT...you picked this election early on where Trump beat all the odds and it was an amazing election to witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Perhaps, just perhaps, the silent Majority of America didn't want to be silent no more. Instead the silence was broken by going out and voting. Perhaps the majority is tired of being ruled by a minority of elitists who conspire with the media and celebrities. Perhaps the silent majority was tired of being bullied by lifetime politicians. Perhaps the silent majority has had enough of political correctness and its weakening effects on speech and liberty. Perhaps the silent majority is tired of a President that appears to put everyone else first outside our own borders. Perhaps the silent majority is tired of corruption and lies. About that majority - Hillary's about 160k votes ahead in the popular vote, FWIW. The system's rigged, I'm tellin' ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 About that majority - Hillary's about 160k votes ahead in the popular vote, FWIW. The system's rigged, I'm tellin' ya! The democrats run up the numbers so high in California and New York I think for the foreseeable future anytime a republican wins the presidency there is a good chance they will not win the national popular vote. Look for more democrats to forget about our constitutional republic and cry for elections to be decided by the popular vote which is exactly what the founders of our country did not want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 About that majority - Hillary's about 160k votes ahead in the popular vote, FWIW. The system's rigged, I'm tellin' ya! Gore beat Bush also in the overall vote. What's your point english? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Surprised Trump didn't pick up another like Colorado or Nevada. Who saw his path to victory as the entire Midwestern blue wall? Apparently the campaign did based on where they were the last couple of weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 The democrats run up the numbers so high in California and New York I think for the foreseeable future anytime a republican wins the presidency there is a good chance they will not win the national popular vote. Look for more democrats to forget about our constitutional republic and cry for elections to be decided by the popular vote which is exactly what the founders of our country did not want. Why is it though that a vote should count for less if you live in a city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Democrats shouldn't have turned their back on the working class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I will say, I hope Trump is good on his word to represent everybody because there's a lot of scared lgbt/muslim people out there right now that are worried that extreme section of trump's support is going to see this as a license to ramp up the attacks. His acceptance speech was quite decent, except when he interjected his Trumpisms, and part of me still suspects he was playing up some of the rhetoric to get votes. So let's see what his mysterious plans are, give him a couple of years, and if we're still 3-13 or 4-12...wait, I got sidetracked. If things are still a shit show then, as said elsewhere, there'll be a backlash, and if things are actually pretty good then great! I didn't believe he could or would win, but I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again in the future. Let's just hope he can bring people together after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 He wont. He'll do his own thing and in 4 years say fuck you i do what i want. I have zero doubt at some point he's gonna piss off even Ed when Ed learns trumpbwas full of shit. And i know he's gonna royally piss off the ultravrighties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Why is it though that a vote should count for less if you live in a city? In a large state like California the party that wins gets the lion's share of the electoral votes as compared to smaller states so it is not like the winning party in a state like California does not get rewarded....the founders of the country deliberately set up a system where we do not have direct voting to avoid concentrations of power in certain areas of the country Why We Use Electoral College, Not Popular Votehttp://dailysignal.com/2016/11/07/why-the-founders-created-the-electoral-college/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 If we didn't have the electoral college we might as well have nobody vote except California and NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 BTW, we have an even less representative system over here, though power is slightly more diluted away from the leader. For example, the conservatives won 37% of the vote in 2015, and 50% of the seats. Labour won 33% of the votes, and 39% of the seats. UKIP and LibDem both got about 15% of the votes, and got 1 and 8 seats respectively. So please don't think I'm here saying "your country sucks, mine is great". Now that's out of the way, 'avoiding concentrations of power' is another way of saying 'diluting power away from cities'. So why is that a good thing? I'm not saying it's not, I'm just asking why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 BTW, we have an even less representative system over here, though power is slightly more diluted away from the leader. For example, the conservatives won 37% of the vote in 2015, and 50% of the seats. Labour won 33% of the votes, and 39% of the seats. UKIP and LibDem both got about 15% of the votes, and got 1 and 8 seats respectively. So please don't think I'm here saying "your country sucks, mine is great". Now that's out of the way, 'avoiding concentrations of power' is another way of saying 'diluting power away from cities'. So why is that a good thing? I'm not saying it's not, I'm just asking why. I would think it would be to keep other parts of the country to keep from being left out and ignored. A huge state like California gets the same two senators that the smallest state of Rhode Island gets. In setting up our government the founders were concerned about concentration of power and having checks and balances of power. It has worked well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gftChris Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 But why should the one million people of rhode island get the same say as the 35m people of CA? And why is that not also the case with the electoral college? That seems odd? Of course, this is just one of many flaws with democracy. Cure Winston Churchill quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 But why should the one million people of rhode island get the same say as the 35m people of CA? And why is that not also the case with the electoral college? That seems odd? Of course, this is just one of many flaws with democracy. Cure Winston Churchill quote. They don't. They have many less electoral delegates. Why should Rhode Island be completely meaningless just allow California New York Texas and Illinois to run everything? Unless we are planning to change the Constitution and completely remove states rights and borders between states. That could be done in today's age of communications. For or against? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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