marcus Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 One of Mr. Trump's biggest challenges will be to reverse the perception that he created with his own words. Some of his statements fueled the liberal media and provided an eisal to paint him as a racist. I pray that through his actions and "new" words he can do that. I'm sure we all can agree that right or wrong the current perception is problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Doesn't exactly sound like an inclusive, uniting message there... I was listening to some breakdown which kind of points to the fact that the middle class voted for Donald Trump. Not poor but middle and upper-middle-class people. And not necessarily all white but blacks and Hispanics and Indians and Asians who are middle and upper-middle-class as opposed too poor. Not Advanced college degrees butt people with maybe a bachelor's or two or three years of college. And we're talking 55% not 95%. Of course the narrative from the left-wing media is that it's uneducated whites. Uneducated meaning no Masters or doctorate degree. So there's that. But it suits your narrative to write it off as racism. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 - I really don't think there was an active conspiracy to lie about polling results. - Trump isn't the one I'm worried about on the gay rights side... Or black people. I don't understand why he's being labeled racist and homophobic. Except that's what the left does to tarnish their opponents. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Deals wif it ah ight? Ah ight then yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 You do realize that not all African Americans speak that way right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Or black people. I don't understand why he's being labeled racist and homophobic. Except that's what the left does to tarnish their opponents. WSS How about we get past the left this and the right this and just look at the record. You may argue whether or not Trump is being racist in the instances pointed out in the article below, but here are a couple snippets. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.” O’Donnell’s report was shocking, but Trump did not contest it at the time. In 1997 he was interviewed for Playboy by author Mark Bowden and he confirmed that the O’Donnell book was “probably true.” Two years later, when he was seeking the reform party nomination for president, Trump changed his tune. “I’ve never said anything like that,” he told Tim Russert on Meet The Press. and... A telling moment arose during a 1993 Congressional committee hearing on gambling casino operated by Indian tribes. Trump, who considered the tribes competitors, offered a flourish of insensitivity during his testimony when he said, “They don’t look like Indians to me and they don’t look like Indians to Indians.” There is plenty more here: http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 A so they vote for the party of Robert Byrd and LBJ. Got it. B they most certainly don't look like Indians they look like multi-millionaire businessmen. We were stupid in the first place to not just a simile the Indians. We tried to make pets of them. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 A so they vote for the party of Robert Byrd and LBJ. Got it. B they most certainly don't look like Indians they look like multi-millionaire businessmen. We were stupid in the first place to not just a simile the Indians. We tried to make pets of them. WSS Not sure what you're getting at, I am just pointing out that the questions about Trump's racism are based on his record, not some liberal bias against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Not sure what you're getting at, I am just pointing out that the questions about Trump's racism are based on his record, not some liberal bias against him. Fair enough. The first one was obviously a joke. And the second is perfectly understandable since anybody that claims to be of Indian Heritage gets a free ride from the government in the casino business (etc) and Mr. Trump is a private entrepreneur in that same business. And I repeat we should have just assimilated them. Rather than to make them pets. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Do yours. The magna carta guaranteed things like a right to a fair trial, that nobody is above the law, even the king, protection from loss of property etc without due process, basically acting as the basis for your constitution. It was also written and signed into law in 1215.Haven't several kings suspended the Magna Carta? Well King Charles suspended Parliament and ignored it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Haven't several kings suspended the Magna Carta? Well King Charles suspended Parliament and ignored it. And then got his head cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Or black people. I don't understand why he's being labeled racist and homophobic. Except that's what the left does to tarnish their opponents. WSS Again, I think Trump is not that socially conservative at all based on his history (immigration may be a different story. We'll need to see what was real and what was "get Billy Bob to vote for me") Doesn't Pence actually defend gay "conversion therapy"? I'm sure a lot of tea party Reps that road in on Trump feel the same. That would be more worrisome than Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Again, I think Trump is not that socially conservative at all based on his history (immigration may be a different story. We'll need to see what was real and what was "get Billy Bob to vote for me") Doesn't Pence actually defend gay "conversion therapy"? I'm sure a lot of tea party Reps that road in on Trump feel the same. That would be more worrisome than Trump. Pence was simply to appease the party, nothing more. A democrat was reportedly in the top running for the VP position anyway (Michael Flynn) Pence probably also doubles as insurance against any assassination attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 To the victor go the spoils, deal with it. I will... and hopefully better than you dealt with the past 4 years... I like my chances. See the difference between us, homey, is I'm not an ideologue. I was listening to some breakdown which kind of points to the fact that the middle class voted for Donald Trump. Not poor but middle and upper-middle-class people. And not necessarily all white but blacks and Hispanics and Indians and Asians who are middle and upper-middle-class as opposed too poor. Not Advanced college degrees butt people with maybe a bachelor's or two or three years of college. And we're talking 55% not 95%. Of course the narrative from the left-wing media is that it's uneducated whites. Uneducated meaning no Masters or doctorate degree. So there's that. But it suits your narrative to write it off as racism. Not what I did, Steve, but read into my posts what you will. Here is the first and only "racism" comment I will make: If those who are "white supremacists" voted, then they voted for Trump. That does not mean if you voted for Trump, you are a white supremacist. Also does not mean Trump will do what they hope he will do. And for the record Dems have lost the white, college-educated demographic for 60 years. HRC did better than any Dem with them during that time. She simply did not win them over as polls indicated she might. And "uneducated" means non-degreed.... not "non-advanced degreed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 I don't recall if I was responding to you but I don't think I accused you of attributing your girls loss to racism. That's the hardcore left idiots commenting on MSNBC, van Jones Tavis Smiley Etc. But the narrative is 'ignorant white rural Hillbillies'. And calling people without a degree uneducated is a crock of shit elitist and Woody like. Because only a jerk off would call Trump's supporters White supremacists. Unless you consider yourself a hip hop Thug, or crack dealer. I'm sure that voting Bloc went for the Hildebeest. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 I don't recall if I was responding to you but I don't think I accused you of attributing your girls loss to racism. That's the hardcore left idiots commenting on MSNBC, van Jones Tavis Smiley Etc. But the narrative is 'ignorant white rural Hillbillies'. And calling people without a degree uneducated is a crock of shit elitist and Woody like. Because only a jerk off would call Trump's supporters White supremacists. Unless you consider yourself a hip hop Thug, or crack dealer. I'm sure that voting Bloc went for the Hildebeest. WSS That is the definition for not having a degree as far as polling goes. That is what I'm saying. If you want to go into some big thing about how you can learn and not go to college, or you can be successful without a degree, or whatever, go for it. That's not the point I was making and appears you misunderstood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Actually since you don't follow any of this shit by your own admission I think it's your own misunderstanding. As Tour says college educated people are usually Republican but the narrative of leftwing bloviators is that it's ignorant Hillbillies who vote Trump. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 What don't I follow? What are you talking about? In the demographics bring discussed, "uneducated" means not having a degree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 so, someone who goes for a degree for three of four years, but then joins the service, goes into the work force out of need for whatever reason.... is "uneducated" ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 The "educated" demographic is being skewed by SJW's with degrees in sociology or gender studies or sociology who amassed huge student loan debt and cant find a job and now want Bernie or Hillary to pay off their debt. Parse the vote according to wages to see a more realistic picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 ... I'm not a female, gay, muslim, or a minority right now.Liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 https://youtu.be/Ex9ldUHSgjs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 That is the definition for not having a degree as far as polling goes. That is what I'm saying. If you want to go into some big thing about how you can learn and not go to college, or you can be successful without a degree, or whatever, go for it. That's not the point I was making and appears you misunderstood Actually what I am saying the truth uneducated is not defined by not having a college degree. Anyone who would use it in that manner, and I mean anyone, he's doing so to be a prick and an asshole. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Actually what I am saying the truth uneducated is not defined by not having a college degree. Anyone who would use it in that manner, and I mean anyone, he's doing so to be a prick and an asshole. WSS It's not the uneducated Steve. How many educated black people showed in masses for Obama? Ya my point. It's not being brainwashed by the libs; not being educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Again, I think Trump is not that socially conservative at all based on his history (immigration may be a different story. We'll need to see what was real and what was "get Billy Bob to vote for me") Doesn't Pence actually defend gay "conversion therapy"? I'm sure a lot of tea party Reps that road in on Trump feel the same. That would be more worrisome than Trump. That's Trump's defense against SJW assassins. If he gets taken down, then we get a guy who wants to overturn Roe v Wade and electrocute the gays. I guess he still has to watch out for the GOPe assassins, but hey, at least we know the lefties won't take him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 You do realize that not all African Americans speak that way right?I wasn't mocking black people I was being silly with DieHard. If I wanted to mock a black person it wouldn't be on a public forum. I truely like black people marcus. If you knew me you would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 That's Trump's defense against SJW assassins. If he gets taken down, then we get a guy who wants to overturn Roe v Wade and electrocute the gays. I guess he still has to watch out for the GOPe assassins, but hey, at least we know the lefties won't take him out. Part of the basis of Roe vs. Wade was the viability of the fetus which has changed greatly in these days of modern medical technology. But you knew that right? Right? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Found at the anti Trump rally's. Obviously organized paid protesters: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'm just tired of paying taxes while some get to be lazy and do nothing. That's my bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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