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A terrific article - just say "NO" to progressivism


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Progressivism isn't dead....

 

One not really conservative anomaly candidate beating the worst Dem candidate doesn't equate to the end of progressivism.

 

So we'll never progress as a society from here on out? We'll never let gays marry? We'll stay where we are or go backwards?

 

If this happened in the past, would you be cheering that blacks would stay second class citizens or women couldn't vote?

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Conservatives rule the country. More governors are conservative and I think more state legislators are conservative.

And when the pendulum swings, again, liberals will be shouting that they now run this bitch. Ur all monkeys. I think a few of u see whats going on but most of u.....just dont get it and never will

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the vast majority of governors are Republican now. Republicans control the presidency...soon..

 

and both houses of Congress. Progressivism doesn't solve problems, it makes changes for their own

benefit, and when their changes fail, they just find some stupid misdirecting blame to put somewhere

else, usually on "we didn't get to do enough of what we did"...

 

Progressivism is a utopian false "god" to liberals. Eight years of Clintons, and eight years of obamao,

and the inner cities are still destitute, plaqued by violent crime, more terrorists flooding in beecause

of the utopian/stupidass ideal of theirs, that open dangerous borders are somehow an upper

sophisticated progressive improvement overall....

 

Just radical hateful, anti-everything bs.

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U forgot 8 years of bush.....or do u not remember there was a two term president in between clinton and obama?

why would I bring up Bush into a discussion about progressiveism? He wasn't a progressive. idiot.

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why would I bring up Bush into a discussion about progressiveism? He wasn't a progressive. idiot.

Because ur conveniently leaving out 8 years of non progressivism where also nothing changed. Bringing us to the inevitable conclusion that some problems are far far far more complicated than "proggressivism vs conservatism" can explain.

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you are changing the subject, as usual. The subject is progressivism, which has morphed into

huge government solves all problems.

 

That Bush didn't solve those problems either, means he just maintained the status quo. He was not a progressive.

 

Giant gov creates a lot of problems, and hasn't solved any of them.

 

So, tyr to keep up, Cleve - Progressivism - very bad, no solutions.

 

Bush, maintain status quo - not good, no solutions.

 

So, in effect, we had clinton, super marxist/progressive that solves no problems, obaMao - a super marxist/leninist/sombeitch/racist

hatemongering piece of crap work, ...

 

vs Trump - who may very well drain the swamp. That is the crossroads. Let the corruption skyrocket out of control forever....

or elect the one guy who is brash enough to actually change things for the American people.

 

Trump won, THANKFULLY.

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Ok, so apparently bush was slightly too left for u as well. Fair enough....so how bout Reagan? Did anything change under him either? No it didn't. Which brings me back to ur ridiculously over simplistic assertion progressivism solves nothing. It's almost too laughable to debate because anybody who's even marginally serious about this issue has never framed it as prof vs cons. That argument is for jokers and clowns to have

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How about taking some time and learning the meanings of words you use?

 

You don't make sense with your rambling. Both Bush and Reagan had dem Congresses.

 

obaMao had a dem controlled Congress for two years, and his progressivism still failed.

 

you can't run your mouth about progressivism being the way to go, and then trying to bail on it,

and say other presidents didn't solve problems, either.

 

You progressives failed. Liberalism FAILED. Your obaMao was worse than doing nothing.

 

Reagan and Bush were never racists. Obamao was.

Reagan and Bush were never socialists - Obamao was.

Reagan and Bush defended our Constitution - Obamao had a dim view of it, and undermined it.

 

You can't brag on progressivism being the ultimate problem solver anymore. It's toast. That is why Trump won.

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Wow u dont read well do u? This is why why having intelligent conversation with u is meaningless, u straw man every everything. Its all u can do because you have no real personal convictions therefore not the ability to properly disseminate others actual positions. U just queefed right through my assertion that this issue has nothing to do with prog vs cons. But since u only have bullets pre loaded for that discussion its all you have to shoot.

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Progressivism isn't dead....

 

One not really conservative anomaly candidate beating the worst Dem candidate doesn't equate to the end of progressivism.

 

So we'll never progress as a society from here on out? We'll never let gays marry? We'll stay where we are or go backwards?

 

If this happened in the past, would you be cheering that blacks would stay second class citizens or women couldn't vote?

 

HRC was the most centrist candidate the Dems could offer. Bernie Sanders is way more progressive, and everyone is saying he would've beaten Trump because he appeals to the demographic that put Trump over the top.

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HRC was the most centrist candidate the Dems could offer. Bernie Sanders is way more progressive, and everyone is saying he would've beaten Trump because he appeals to the demographic that put Trump over the top.

Bernie appealed to the working class, union people.

 

Hillary and the rest of the party ignored them. Even reportedly Bill said they needed to target that demographic but he was ignored too.

 

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I didn't really pay attention to this thread but the people that swayed the election were not progressives.

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Bernie appealed to the working class, union people.

 

Hillary and the rest of the party ignored them. Even reportedly Bill said they needed to target that demographic but he was ignored too.

 

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I didn't really pay attention to this thread but the people that swayed the election were not progressives.

 

True. What I'm saying though is that Bernie would've gotten the votes of the progressives as well as the union people, hence why he'd have won the election.

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So all conservatism is bad and all Progressive policies are good?

 

And if you're in accurate theory works there that would also mean conservatism also causes no problems.

 

WSS

 

 

No, I never said all of one as good or all of one was bad. Follow along.

 

Conservatism wouldn't cause problems, it would sustain them.

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No, I never said all of one as good or all of one was bad. Follow along.

 

Conservatism wouldn't cause problems, it would sustain them.

So for instance If You Think Public Safety is a problem and someone in government wanted to round up all violent criminals and execute them in the street that would be a liberal solution?

 

If in fact that you believe change is good, and always good, well...

 

 

 

WSS

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