Westside Steve Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 It doesn't matter who wins, the system seems out dated. A discussion of it isn't whiningIs the Senate outdated as well? For instance should Ohio have more senators than Wyoming? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 "everything is outdated - if it isn't the way we want it to be" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Is the Senate outdated as well? For instance should Ohio have more senators than Wyoming? WSS Isn't that what the House is for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Isn't that what the House is for? umm.. Woody? "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I'm advocating for breaking up the EC votes from each state based on the number of votes a candidate got there. 10 total votes. 60% Trump. 40% Clinton then 6 for Trump, 4 for Clinton. This still means someone's vote in a small state counts for more, but it's closer to a popular vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I'm advocating for breaking up the EC votes from each state based on the number of votes a candidate got there. 10 total votes. 60% Trump. 40% Clinton then 6 for Trump, 4 for Clinton. This still means someone's vote in a small state counts for more, but it's closer to a popular vote. Trump lost the popular vote because of states like democratic California who ran up the vote totals. California already gets rewarded by their number of electoral votes (55) which is far and away more than any other state so it is not like the democrats don't get rewarded already for winning a state like California. It's all a moot point. To get rid of the electoral college would only start with 2/3rds majority votes in both houses of congress (hard enough in itself to accomplish) and then approved by 38 states (impossible). Better learn to deal with the electoral college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Trump lost the popular vote because of states like democratic California who ran up the vote totals. California already gets rewarded by their number of electoral votes (55) which is far and away more than any other state so it is not like the democrats don't get rewarded already for winning a state like California. It's all a moot point. To get rid of the electoral college would only start with 2/3rds majority votes in both houses of congress (hard enough in itself to accomplish) and then approved by 38 states (impossible). Better learn to deal with the electoral college. I like you obf because you get it. God bless you and yours. Go Browns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I'm advocating for breaking up the EC votes from each state based on the number of votes a candidate got there. 10 total votes. 60% Trump. 40% Clinton then 6 for Trump, 4 for Clinton. This still means someone's vote in a small state counts for more, but it's closer to a popular vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Trump lost the popular vote because of states like democratic California who ran up the vote totals. California already gets rewarded by their number of electoral votes (55) which is far and away more than any other state so it is not like the democrats don't get rewarded already for winning a state like California. It's all a moot point. To get rid of the electoral college would only start with 2/3rds majority votes in both houses of congress (hard enough in itself to accomplish) and then approved by 38 states (impossible). Better learn to deal with the electoral college. Yes, yes, yes. We've already been told a dozen times in here it won't change. Idc. That's not the point of the thread. Trump lost the popular vote because less people voted for him. You can't just not count Cali because you disagree with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Yes, yes, yes. We've already been told a dozen times in here it won't change. Idc. That's not the point of the thread. Trump lost the popular vote because less people voted for him. You can't just not count Cali because you disagree with them... The Electoral College is in the Constitution. It upholds everything. If you don't like it move out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 sad http://animalquestions.org/birds/woodpeckers/do-woodpeckers-migrate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 The Electoral College is in the Constitution. It upholds everything. If you don't like it move out of the country. Except that's not how the Constitution was designed to work. It is a living document, not written in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Except that's not how the Constitution was designed to work. It is a living document, not written in stone.You cannot have California and New York as the majority while the rest of America works hard everyday too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 the Constitution is NOT A STUPID "LIVING DOCUMENT". It is amendable, if necessary, to INCLUDE rights. Not to take rights away. This "living document" is code for "us liberals want it to be rewritten by us, so we can screw all non-liberals over in contempory fashion" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 You cannot have California and New York as the majority while the rest of America works hard everyday too. No one claimed they aren't working hard... I also don't think anyone is actually reading what I posted because my suggestion limits the impact of Cali and NY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 the Constitution is NOT A STUPID "LIVING DOCUMENT". It is amendable, if necessary, to INCLUDE rights. Not to take rights away. This "living document" is code for "us liberals want it to be rewritten by us, so we can screw all non-liberals over in contempory fashion" There is a process for editing it. We have used it in the past. If the support is there, it should be used in the future. Acting like a document to govern written 200+ years ago is perfect is idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 the Constitution has never had rights taken away. "editing" can be adding/subtracting. It can add rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Where is that rule coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 38 states need to ratify it. At least 35 will lose their say if they do. I don't think it will happen, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 It's history. Liberals HATE history. What good is a declaration of permanent RIGHTS and PROTECTION from TYRANNY, if a bunch of liberal activists could just take some rights away that they don't like, when they decide others shouldn't have them (since they never mind their own business) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Sooooo.... Nothing. Got it. Alcohol makes me happy (it doesn't,). I have a right to a pursuit if happiness. We took away alcohol. But nothing says we can't go through normal avenues to change it. You can't invent rules in the case of you not liking the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 the Constitution has never had rights taken away. "editing" can be adding/subtracting. It can add rights. Really? What about the 18th Amendment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Yep, that could be fixed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Yep, that could be fixed too.Fuck it woody let's just change the whole Consitution while we're at it. Instead of the right to bear arms lets get water pistols! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Fuck it woody let's just change the whole Consitution while we're at it. Instead of the right to bear arms lets get water pistols! Or, fix the things that are clearly broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Really? What about the 18th Amendment? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPc2jfH90PU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Or, fix the things that are clearly broken? Just because the election didn't go the Democrats way doesn't mean the electoral collehe is a broken system. I'd say it worked perfectly as designed. Middle America firmly rejected leftist ideology. Outside of eds, I don't think anyone is in love with trump but we'll take him over another 4-8 years of essentially sanctioned cop killings, emboldened rioters, forcing transexuals on our wives and daughters, denouncememt of "white privilege" and attacks on our way of life from the highest levels. All the leftists have had to do for the last 8 years to get their way is shout "RACISTBIGOT!" Well...it's not gonna be so easy now, is it? RACISTBIGOT isn't gonna do the trick anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Wow, Obama did all of that? Crazy. You see nothing wrong with it being 49.9% to 50.1% in Cali, and all 55 delegates going to the second candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just because the election didn't go the Democrats way doesn't mean the electoral collehe is a broken system. I'd say it worked perfectly as designed. Middle America firmly rejected leftist ideology. Outside of eds, I don't think anyone is in love with trump but we'll take him over another 4-8 years of essentially sanctioned cop killings, emboldened rioters, forcing transexuals on our wives and daughters, denouncememt of "white privilege" and attacks on our way of life from the highest levels. All the leftists have had to do for the last 8 years to get their way is shout "RACISTBIGOT!" Well...it's not gonna be so easy now, is it? RACISTBIGOT isn't gonna do the trick anymore. Hallelujah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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