Tour2ma Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Pretty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 as a unit, I expect their grades go up a good bit. That offensive line will, by itself, make the offense a much better offense. Add Njoku to the mix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I'm worried Tretter will suck but we have a few other options there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I don't get that, he graded out well, a bit higher than Bitonio.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Is RT still going to be a problem area? Do you know the PFF grade of Cam Erving or other candidates for that slot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Love landmine season..Remember when everyone told John Greco to look out Cam Erving was taking your job? Ok Big John.. Go get you some..Again (might be the best damn RT/G/C we still own?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Is RT still going to be a problem area? Do you know the PFF grade of Cam Erving or other candidates for that slot? These are just the grades they received for 2016. I suspect Coleman is gonna grade out a whole lot better this season than he did last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Is RT still going to be a problem area? Do you know the PFF grade of Cam Erving or other candidates for that slot? Erving played one game.....and the steelers were only half trying, half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Erving played one game.....and the steelers were only half trying, half the time. Disagree. They sat their main offensive guns, but the full defensive complement was out there. The Browns were just an equal...or better match for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I don't get that, he graded out well, a bit higher than Bitonio.... Bitonio has been hurt though and has had an elite season before. Also a 2nd round talent vs 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Erving played one game.....and the steelers were only half trying, half the time. Coleman played one game. Erving played lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Sure... if you consider 13 starts "a lot"... /s Love landmine season..Remember when everyone told John Greco to look out Cam Erving was taking your job? Ok Big John.. Go get you some..Again (might be the best damn RT/G/C we still own?) I remember that... best laugh I had in 2016. Greco's not our "best", but he has been our most versatile and consistent interior OL. Hopefully he'll be so another couple seasons in his reserve role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Looks like we just tapped another OL developmental player.... http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-claim-OL-Chris-Barker/14be3104-8484-4afc-9af4-5a0e8b036180?sf80183475=1 ...and cut Gabe Wright to make room...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Looks like we just tapped another OL developmental player.... http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-claim-OL-Chris-Barker/14be3104-8484-4afc-9af4-5a0e8b036180?sf80183475=1 ...and cut Gabe Wright to make room...... Thanks for sharing that Mud! Sometimes that kind of guy can pan out. For example, John Greco was a 3rd rd pick for the Rams who only had 4 fill-in starts in the 3 years he was with St Louis. After being traded to Cleveland and starting 0 games the first year here (4th NFL season) - he started 14 games and played well in his 5th NFL season. I remember way back in 2002 when we signed a guy named Barry Stokes who got cut multiple times elsewhere. He came here at the right time and started for the only playoff team we had this side of 1999. Another example following the lyrics of "Love takes time..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 True, but Greco was on the Rams' 53-man IIRC... Barker (great name for us... ) is a 2-yr PS guy. That said his measureables are decent... http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/chris-barker?id=2539268 ... and FWIW somebody at Bleacher liked him... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1614182-chris-barker-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-nevada-guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 True, but Greco was on the Rams' 53-man IIRC... Barker (great name for us... ) is a 2-yr PS guy. That said his measureables are decent... http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/chris-barker?id=2539268 ... and FWIW somebody at Bleacher liked him... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1614182-chris-barker-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-nevada-guard Good points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 PFF grades, giving Browns fans something to hang their hat on since 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 The line looks good, and we have some depth as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 Semi-related article...FYI, the correct answer is, "Yes." Does John Greco Have a Place on the Browns’ Roster in 2017?The versatile offensive lineman could be on the outside of the roster looking in as Browns training camp approaches.by Andrea Hangst May 28, 2017, 1:36pm EDT http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/5/28/15707008/does-john-greco-have-a-place-on-the-browns-roster-in-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 DBN has really had the most informative reads in the so-called dead season that I really enjoy. Really hope we get though camp & can start The Re-Fab 5 against a real $hiter's D against the run. The talk is keep 8 or 9 on OL on the final cut down roster? But with the new nfl rules of 2 can come back off IR in one season. Big John Greco would be one I would pencil in allowing time with lisfrac. Certainly would not trade or cut that kind of OL value..Contract up end of this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 If they retain him, then Greco looks like a good candidate for the PUP list.....perhaps he can bide his time there and be a mid season savior.....considering that our OL has been beset with serious injuries on an annual basis.... Its been years since we didnt lose someone vital and then suffer from a complete lack of quality depth..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 Oh great, not just dubious pff grades but now "projected" pff grades. The levels of dubiousnes i feel about this cant be put in words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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