VaporTrail Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-solar-wall-energy-2017-6 A solar border wall would generate approximately 7.28 gigawatt-hours (GWh) of electricity each day (2,657.2 GWh annually), according to one solar installation firm Other estimates reach as high as 8,431 GWh annually The electricity production would be worth approximately $106 million per year Not considering the multi-billion-dollar construction cost of the wall itself, the solar array installation could cost between $1.4 billion and $4.2 billion During a White House meeting with Republican Congressional leaders on June 6, President Trump discussed plans for his proposed US-Mexico border wall. As Axios reported, he pitched covering the wall in solar panels and using the generated electricity to pay for its construction. Let's assume that the estimate of 100M per year holds true. Suppose the wall costs a total of 15B. It would take 150 years to pay itself off. Now, with the higher estimate of 8000 GWh/yr, and assuming a linear relationship with the electricity production (not sure if this holds true, Woody are you a EE? Thoughts?), it would make about 400M per year. This would pay itself off in less than 40 years. I'd argue that the best case scenario number is something worth pursuing. You're hitting two birds with one stone in curbing illegal immigration and making a yuge change toward greener energy for the nation. Is a 150 year turnaround too long to support? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 The 1.21 gigawatt ration for The Doc and Marty needs to be accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 the drug cartels will steal the solar panels on the mexican side............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 the drug cartels will steal the solar panels on the mexican side............ 1 - Proves him right as Mexicans demonstrate themselves to be criminals who not only break the law, but hate the environment. 2 - Solved by putting armed guards along the length of the wall. Creates jobs. Protects green energy. Protects border. Voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Make the sunlight from Mexico pay for the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 This would be the best case scenario for the wall, IMO. I would still rather invest in other areas (solar freakin road ways), but this would at least be better than a giant hunk of concrete. I'm not sure if it's feasible. Also, as Cal mentioned, how easily could it be damaged? How much would upkeep cost, which you didn't factor into your payback period. Could we only have solar panels on the US side? I'm not an EE (ME) but I would think it would be linear. I guess the concern would be around any power loss if it's all going to one place. Is it possible to send so much (more panels) that it overloads or is lost? Would there be additional infrastructure costs to efficiently convert all of the power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 The 1.21 gigawatt ration for The Doc and Marty needs to be accounted for. Well, we do seem to be living in the future from BTTF2, except that Biff still has the almanac. And he's sitting in the Oval Office... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Well, we do seem to be living in the future from BTTF2, except that Biff still has the almanac. And he's sitting in the Oval Office... Ahh, you mad snowflake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ahh, you mad snowflake? Not at all, are you? You can always run and cry to the admins if you get your feeling hurt on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Not at all, are you? You can always run and cry to the admins if you get your feeling hurt on here... You're a faggot, so I'm sure your feelings get hurt all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Not at all, are you? You can always run and cry to the admins if you get your feeling hurt on here...Not only are you a fag but also a buzz killer. I'm going to sleep now thanks. Zzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Not at all, are you? You can always run and cry to the admins if you get your feeling hurt on here... you can, apparently, always spew personal antagonism crap to get negative attention, especially when you are intitiating it... like a typical maladjusted snowflake. Perhaps you could change your name to Jrealitywinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 you guys sure get worked up over professional wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 you can, apparently, always spew personal antagonism crap to get negative attention, especially when you are intitiating it... like a typical maladjusted snowflake. Perhaps you could change your name to Jrealitywinner. That, especially coming from you, and they way you comport yourself on this forum - is rather funny. I may have some fundamental disagreements with fellow political board posters on here, but for the most part, I'm willing to have rational and reasonable conversations with others on here as long as they offer me the same courtesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 yet, you ignore the fact that I don't get negative with Steve.... or Cysko, several other posters. You can take your nonsense and shove it - "as long as they offer me the same courtesy" boy. You liberals don't get to bash people, etc etc etc... and remain free from being bashed around here. Have a nice libbie day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 yet, you ignore the fact that I don't get negative with Steve.... or Cysko, several other posters... Neither do I. And guess what? That's probably the reason why they don't get negative with me also. It's amazing how starting a conversation with some semblance of common decency helps move it along rather smoothly. You should try it for yourself sometime. ...You can take your nonsense and shove it - "as long as they offer me the same courtesy" boy. You liberals don't get to bash people, etc etc etc... and remain free from being bashed around here. Have a nice libbie day. Its funny how you claim to be against "libs", but you and a few others on here are generally the first to bash another poster for exercising their right to free speech; sometimes going as far as running to mods to have speech you don't agree with banned. You're about as regressively leftist on that as you can get without having neon green hair and a degree in Feminist Tap Dance Therapy from Evergreen State College. Here's a suggestion: if my posts ruin your day as much as you seem to be making it out to be, just put me on ignore and go about your day. Its really that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Neither do I. And guess what? That's probably the reason why they don't get negative with me also. It's amazing how starting a conversation with some semblance of common decency helps move it along rather smoothly. You should try it for yourself sometime. jblew ********************************************** yes, you do. you kept jumping on the "hate Cal" train any chance you had, negatively so. therefore, you made yourself a victim of negative response. Libs love to bash anybody on the other side of the fence with all sorts of crap...then they don't understand why they get it back - they are outraged, flame on and melt. I think that is where you libs are called snowflakes for good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Its funny how you claim to be against "libs", but you and a few others on here are generally the first to bash another poster for exercising their right to free speech; sometimes going as far as running to mods to have speech you don't agree with banned. You're about as regressively leftist on that as you can get without having neon green hair and a degree in Feminist Tap Dance Therapy from Evergreen State College. **************************************** there you go again. I'm not against libs at all. I am good friends with some folks, who are liberal. One "adopted sister-in-law and I never talk politics for that reason. She did admit, for a few private seconds at a party, that I was right about obaMao all along. I just grinned and gave her a shoulder bump. There isn't bashing free speech from the independent/conservative side. It's you sheply asswholes who go freaking vile on any post that violates your nazi-like dedication to mmgw, and anything really liberal. Another thing you libs do, fabricate a false narrative and then emotionally vent that you are justified in bitching. hahahaha. like that hasn't been true since the beginning, liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Here's a suggestion: if my posts ruin your day as much as you seem to be making it out to be, just put me on ignore and go about your day. Its really that simple. jblew ************************************************ Another false narrative. Your posts don't ruin my day at all. It just proves that what we say about you snowflakes...is truer and truer all the time. Putting you on ignore means you don't suffer negative responses to your belligerrent, negative crap... that doesn't work, pinko snowflake'. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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